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Sanguina-chan iChibi-Panda Also, advice on parental issues I would very much adore. My parents think me to be just rebelling against their beliefs, and that I'll just "fall back into them" when I'm more "mature". [Although, although I'm hyper and random more often than not, I'm altogether mature for my age] They do not understand that I have found my way. I have yet to explore it, but I am very sure Neo-Paganism/Paganism is right for me. My mom is already suspicious of my makeshift altar. I need to know how to tell them... And how to counter their reaction. Or at least how to practice in secret. ;] We can tell you're mature mrgreen I would recommend scaling things back. Having an altar is great, but you don't need one to practice freeform Pagan spirituality or religion. You can put that in the "later" pile. If you feel like having a dialogue with them about it (which I actually recommend over keeping it a secret), then sit them down for a serious conversation. It's scary, but it can be done. Let them know that you honour and respect their religion, but that it's not for you. Say that at the moment, you're exploring other ways of honouring the divine and celebrating your spirituality, but that you haven't made any solid choices yet. Stress that you're learning and looking around. If you like, you could also look into other spiritual paths that are not Pagan - you don't have to want to follow any of these religions to find them interesting. It will also help your case wink So check out the Gnostic gospels, explore the history and different forms of Christianity, look into Judaism, Buddhism etc. It's important to let them know that you respect their religion. If you don't respect theirs, why would they respect yours? Catholicism, while it contains elements I don't personally approve of, is a complex and fascinating religion with a long history. You lose nothing and gain a great deal from looking into it from an academic perspective, and it will drive home to them that you a) honour their own religious choices, b) respect Christianity in general, and c) are not rebelling against their religion. In addition, be aware that their spiritual paths are as important to them as yours is to you. Don't raise your voice, yell, get angry or upset. Try to be calm, collected and mature as I'm sure you can be. That's the best advice I can give you at this point, I think. Good luck!
^_________^ I'll try that out and see how it goes..
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:25 pm
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Ever since I was little I didn't agree with the things that I was being taught in church, and it bothered me. So after I graduated high school and started college, I began searching inside myself, and asking myself what it was that I believed. After that I began looking on the internet and doing research on different religions, and than I came across Wicca, and it was basically a eureka moment. I did more research, read books, and than I knew that Wicca was what I'd been searching for.
My mom has been great during my search. She is so supportive and understanding. That was one thing that I was worried about, because she was a reverend's kid growing up.
I've found what makes me happy, and I plan on following that path the rest of my life, and while I plan to raise my children on the Wicca path, I will teach them that there are many paths to happiness and peace, and if they want to follow one of those paths, I will support them, like my mother supported me.
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:30 am
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I knew at a very early age in my life that I was different, but I couldn't figure it out. I was very fortunate to have a mother that didn't want to push a religion on me, and gave me the option of what religion I wanted to be. I tried church, but it didn't feel right. When I was 10yrs old she got me into Native American dancing, and I felt at peace while worshiping Mother Earth and Father Sky. At 11 I noticed that I could make things happen without doing anything, like making something move across a room. Most people would tweek out at that, but not me. That is when I learned that I am a natural born witch, but I couldn't ask my parents to get me the books on it, so I just waited. I did learn in the mean time that a lot of Native American beliefs and Wiccan beliefs are the same and that they also used the pentacle. When I was 17 is when I went out and bought my own books cause I was working. I joined my first Coven at 18, it was the Coven of my boyfriend at the time, so that's how I joined. They are the ones who helped me fine tune my powers/abilities, and what deity I would be best suited to worship the most (the Triple Goddess). I have been on this path ever since. I am very fortunate to have met and married a fellow natural born, so we practice together now. Hopefully we will be able to form our own Coven soon, or at least find one thta suits us to join with.
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:15 am
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Fairy Queen Tatyana I knew at a very early age in my life that I was different, but I couldn't figure it out. I was very fortunate to have a mother that didn't want to push a religion on me, and gave me the option of what religion I wanted to be. I tried church, but it didn't feel right. When I was 10yrs old she got me into Native American dancing, and I felt at peace while worshiping Mother Earth and Father Sky. At 11 I noticed that I could make things happen without doing anything, like making something move across a room. Most people would tweek out at that, but not me. That is when I learned that I am a natural born witch, but I couldn't ask my parents to get me the books on it, so I just waited. I did learn in the mean time that a lot of Native American beliefs and Wiccan beliefs are the same and that they also used the pentacle. When I was 17 is when I went out and bought my own books cause I was working. I joined my first Coven at 18, it was the Coven of my boyfriend at the time, so that's how I joined. They are the ones who helped me fine tune my powers/abilities, and what deity I would be best suited to worship the most (the Triple Goddess). I have been on this path ever since. I am very fortunate to have met and married a fellow natural born, so we practice together now. Hopefully we will be able to form our own Coven soon, or at least find one thta suits us to join with.
You keep making this claim, that Native American belief are the same as Wiccan one. But you never answer anyone's questions regarding this. Speaking as someone who is legitimately Native, and who is also an initiated Wiccan, I fail to see how your claim is accurate. Wicca, and Native spirituality, are very different - even in practice. Not to mention that 'Native American' covers such a multitude of nations and spirituality that it really depends on which nation you're talking about. Which people? Which tribe? Where?
Why do you think they're the same? What do you think "Wiccan beliefs" are? What books did you read that made you decide to seek Wicca properly? What tradition of Wicca are you an initiate of? When did you become a 3* initiate? How old are you?
The "Triple Goddess" soft polythestic archetype, isn't Wiccan. The Lady of the Isles isn't a Triple Goddess, nor is Wicca soft polytheistic. Please forgive my skepticism, but what you describe as Wicca....really doesn't match up with my experiences as a Wiccan. So I'm really curious.
This is my real problem with your statements, though: What's "natural born" got to do with anything? There's no such thing as a natural born witch. Witchcraft is a craft - right in the name - and like any other craft you have to learn it and hone it before you can say you're a witch.
You might have a natural "knack" for it, but it doesn't make you better than someone else for having it, and it doesn't mean that the knowledge was complete and whole inside your head already, full-sprung like Athena from Zeus' brow.
No-one is a natural-born carpenter, or a natural-born seamstress...goes the same for witches. Calling oneself a "Natural-born witch" smacks of two things, in my opinion: hubris, and deliberate intellectual dishonesty. Are you deliberately attempting to make yourself special, or elevated over those who admit they've had to do their homework to be a witch? Because that's what it looks like.
I'm not saying what you practice is invalid, nor am I trying to be rude. I'm just trying to understand what you're saying, and perhaps correct any misinformation you're labouring under - since there seems to be some.
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:13 am
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i always had 'issues' with christianity and so for a while i had no specific religion. i was not an atheist, but i just didn't know what i believed. i was actually one of those people who was afraid of witchcraft, because i didn't understand it. it really freaked me out when my mother began practicing, lol. then there was this guy that i worked with who started stalking me, like seriously, it was scary. he gave me a samarai sword as a gift and it had a really weird, not-quite-right vibe to it so of course i did not keep it. i was terrified to have it in the house, so i put it outside and eventually someone took it away (he claimed to be a wiccan, but i really think he was just trying to be different on purpose because he said that he was a blood drinking vampire and knew that he was a nobleman in romania in a past life... so yeah, add to that trying to be punk/goth/emo).
the guy still persued me and then my mom was really worried so she told me that i should ask for help (of course she meant magick). so i worked a spell to get him to leave me alone and it worked. being a novice i didn't know about the consequences that spells could have, but luckily he and his family just moved, plus i didn't have to be scared anymore. from then on i was just like "wow, maybe there is something to this" and then i began my research and found that it fit more than most religions, from what i had read, and then discovered that there were eclectic paths as well. this all happened around 5-6 years ago, so i know alot more now, obviously, lol.
wow, that was kind of a long story xd
EDIT: i just want to say, before anyone stabs me for it, i have no problem with goths, emos, punks, or wiccans - but the wannabes irritate me. and as far as vampires go, well they all kinda weird me out, the real ones and the wannabes, but i mean no offense... unless you are a wannabe... hehe, thats a fun word to say, wannabe! it kinda sounds like wallaby (sp?)
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:32 pm
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I'm falling even more in love with you, letting go all I've held onto...
When I was little my grandmother raised me as a Roman Catholic and up until I was about 13 I was very content at being Catholic. In fact, I fully planned on becoming a nun. To this day, if I find myself turning back to the Catholic faith, I plan on being a nun. But when I was around 13ish I started realizing that I was breaking one of the Catholic Church's fundamental rules: do not worship any being/thing above that of God/Jesus Christ. I realized that I had placed the Virgin Mary above Christ and God. My biggest pet peeve is people who claim to be of a certain religion, but don't follow the rules. And here I was doing the very thing that I despised.
So I started looking into other faiths. My grandmother supported me (she still does, she believes that I will find my way back to the Church, but that this is a journey I obviously need to experience first. I love my grandma.), my parents didn't. I explored Buddhism, Hindu, and Shinto. I nearly stuck with Shinto and to this day I have an affinity for the Goddess Amaterasu. Then I found Wicca.
I'm not Wiccan. I never initiated myself as Wiccan and I never will, because I know that I could not uphold every rule that exists in the true Wiccan religion. That and I have no desire to join a tradition. I do spell work and holiday rituals with my friends and my former mentor, but they aren't Wiccan either. However, it was Wicca that brought me into Paganism as a whole, so I am thankful for that.
I now know that my need to become Pagan was because I craved a female representation of God. And I chose the belief system of Paganism because I want the flexibility to pick and choose what is best for me, instead of having to stick with someone else's ideas.
...I'm standing here until you make me move, I'm hanging by a moment here with you.
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