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 Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:38 am
xX Inryoku Xx What about the poor plants!
They make oxygen!
And how do you know that they don't feel pain?
I love being a smart a** <3 We don't kill the plants to eat them we pick stuff off of them which would die if we didn't so we aren't really hurting them and plants can feel
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:28 am
Winks191 xX Inryoku Xx What about the poor plants!
They make oxygen!
And how do you know that they don't feel pain?
I love being a smart a** <3 We don't kill the plants to eat them we pick stuff off of them which would die if we didn't so we aren't really hurting them and plants can feel Thats not entirely true. For plants that grow on vines or trees that is true, but for many vegetables it isn't.
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:35 am
If everyone was to stop eating meat...What would happen?
The farmer isn't going to keep all those animals and pay to feed them, is he? They'll all have to be let free or killed anyway...
If we assume that everyone wants to let the animals live (because we're obviously too in touch with our feelings to slaughter hundreds of thousands of animals for no reason), you have to set them free...
If you let them free, they'll eat everything they come across and breed uncontrollably...Meaning that the rate at which everything gets eaten will massively increase in a relatively short period of time...
What happens then?
Well...(zOMG) Either everyone dies in protest, or everyone starts eating meat again...Because all the vegetables will be in the cattle... neutral
To sum that up...Just eat the damn animals...For the sake of the human race, you really don't have a choice...
And besides...If they didn't want to be eaten, they'd have formed a union and petitioned the government to stop themselves from being eaten...
Silly...
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:37 am
*gasp* ... Elendil... Lost his colors gonk
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:14 am
Elendil, not to be nit-picky or anything but I'm pretty sure animals can't make unions. Seriously, if they could who would write the minutes for each of the union meetings?
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:38 am
It's not that they can't form unions...
It's that they choose not to... 3nodding
Like vegetarians eating meat...Even if they choose to not eat meat because it literally makes them sick...They still can eat it...They just choose not to...
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Tai Takahashi Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:40 am
I should eat my cat before he can form a union... Or a mutiny...
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:49 am
Mutiny gives me images in my head of cats walking the plank...'cept they're doing it in to a conveniently placed meat-grinding cheeseburger making machine, rather than the sea...
Now I want yummy catburgers... gonk
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Tai Takahashi Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:57 am
Oh, I do have a small meat grinder and some conveniently small cats... I don't think I have any sauce though... Catburgers need some sort of sauce, I'd think.
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:03 pm
Elendil Telperien If everyone was to stop eating meat...What would happen?
The farmer isn't going to keep all those animals and pay to feed them, is he? They'll all have to be let free or killed anyway...
If we assume that everyone wants to let the animals live (because we're obviously too in touch with our feelings to slaughter hundreds of thousands of animals for no reason), you have to set them free...
If you let them free, they'll eat everything they come across and breed uncontrollably...Meaning that the rate at which everything gets eaten will massively increase in a relatively short period of time...
What happens then?
Well...(zOMG) Either everyone dies in protest, or everyone starts eating meat again...Because all the vegetables will be in the cattle... neutral
To sum that up...Just eat the damn animals...For the sake of the human race, you really don't have a choice...
And besides...If they didn't want to be eaten, they'd have formed a union and petitioned the government to stop themselves from being eaten...
Silly... The fact that they kill the animals is not the pro... the pro... is how they kill them... i mean i would still pro... be a vegie.. but nothing deserves to die like that it horrible
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Tai Takahashi Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:06 pm
@winks: Dude, how are you thinking they kill them? They get a shot to the head or their neck snapped, they're out before they even know what's happening or feel any pain. It's not like they beat them to death with clubs and pitchforks. O_o
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:11 pm
Thats not how they kill them at all have you see how they kill them? when they kill them its not like shoting them at all they suffer they slit there throats and they bleed to death it is really sad... its not like people think everyone thinks that they just shot them and get it over with, but it isn't its really rather depressing... some places do shot but others don't
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Tai Takahashi Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:24 pm
And where are you getting this information? With as spazztic as PETA is, I doubt any slaughter houses just cut 'em up and let 'em hang anymore. O_o
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:26 pm
not just from peta other places where are you getting ur information?
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:28 pm
What used to happen with cows and sheep is that they were electrocuted before having their throats cut...But slaughterhouses don't use electrocution on cattle any more...And that's not because it's only 60% effective and the animals were alive when they had their throats cut, it's because electricity costs money...
What actually happens now is that they shoot them in the head...Then cut their throats...
Chickens (which a lot of self-professed vegetarians still eat) still get electrocuted and then have their throats cut...
And fish...That other meat that vegetarians still eat...They die of ashphyxia...Which is more inhumane than shooting a cow in the face...Or electrocuting a chicken...
You'll find that only Halal and Kosher slaughter involves nothing other than cutting the throat of the animal...That's a small percentage of the whole...But you'll find that any documentary featuring footage of slaughter is taken in a Halal or Kosher slaughterhouse, purely to sensationalise the issue...
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