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 Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:34 am
Zaaki Yeye, still a cowgirl like Ratri razz What the lady luck's cast iron corset! Yew don't understand me? And the muslims did pay money to the poor people and stuff, and that time it was not much dinari's of tax they gave wink But if the muslim emepror's did force people to be muslims, proberly whole world would be muslim lands wink
say what? dude, I don't understand one freaking word you just said.
Why should I be forced to accept the dimmah and be forced to pay the jizyah because I don't feel like converting to Islam? and saying that you are "gaining protection from Muslims"
I don't want to pay for something as stupid as that. I pay my taxes for protection regardless of religion, and that's enough for me.
I agree with Absurd; for forcing people to be Muslim is wrong and degrading by aggressive means.
I for one, don't want a ******** theocracy. That never lasts long, especially on a large scale.
Separation of religion and state, thank you very much.
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:41 pm
Ratri_Cat Zaaki Yeye, still a cowgirl like Ratri razz What the lady luck's cast iron corset! Yew don't understand me? And the muslims did pay money to the poor people and stuff, and that time it was not much dinari's of tax they gave wink But if the muslim emepror's did force people to be muslims, proberly whole world would be muslim lands wink
say what? dude, I don't understand one freaking word you just said.
Why should I be forced to accept the dimmah and be forced to pay the jizyah because I don't feel like converting to Islam? and saying that you are "gaining protection from Muslims"
I don't want to pay for something as stupid as that. I pay my taxes for protection regardless of religion, and that's enough for me.
I agree with Absurd; for forcing people to be Muslim is wrong and degrading by aggressive means.
I for one, don't want a ******** theocracy. That never lasts long, especially on a large scale.
Separation of religion and state, thank you very much. Don't u understand? What in lady luck's cast iron corset! = What the **** That's how some things u write, i imagine as being lol Not understanding confused If You are under muslim protection, then u must pay those who protect u i guess... And taxes too 3nodding And you should not be forced to a relegion, but choise the path yourself. You guys harrash me for not reading and misuderstanding, and now you are doing it yourself? confused
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:55 pm
Bismillah---
Indeed, I was pointing to Ridda wars, but I was talking generally. Thanks for explaination. biggrin ( I really don't know where I went wrong, but it was Jizyah )
Anyways, you're right Zaaki, Jizyah was payed in return of Islam protection. It's basically, the Islamic country is not going to pay a sallary for a soldier, and the forces, the ships, and everything, just to protect a non-muslim who doesn't pay even Zakah, or anything! It just doesn't make sense! If somebody doesn't want to pay it, then he can go out! I know it's his land, but most of this land's people got into Islam, or else, it wouldn't be considered an Islamic land.
--- Salam
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:15 pm
Bah, stupid. I pay taxes for a country's proection; not a religion's protection.
...even when people pay these taxes, their churches and synagogues are still burned by Muslims in Muslim countries.
So far all I've seen is that Muslim countries have some of the worst human rights violations and severe restrictions on religious freedom. Not worth my money, even if I did believe in a higher higher power.
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 2:56 am
Absurd Thought
Bah, stupid. I pay taxes for a country's proection; not a religion's protection.
...even when people pay these taxes, their churches and synagogues are still burned by Muslims in Muslim countries.
So far all I've seen is that Muslim countries have some of the worst human rights violations and severe restrictions on religious freedom. Not worth my money, even if I did believe in a higher higher power. If i owned a provence... Then i woulden't exacly burn churches, but change them to mosques ore sumthing smile Maybe because that it is my land, and i don't whant to waste my land on churches if i diden't have space for it. And burning it, would be haram i guess, since it's Allah's creation. And it is our Earth! Ofcurse we should have our rights, and not be forced. But violence against outlaws, is not always haram. And reason why some leaders do forbid the human rights, is because they are too stupid to know what to do, soo instead they make hard rules. Example in Iran u must wear hijab, and be very relegious and that because that they are scared that people whill forget Islam. But in a place like Jordan, i heard that like 95% of females wear hijab, and that sounds very nice. Plus Jordan is going very nice and peaceful 3nodding And it's relegious and they are good muslims xd Unlike places like Turkey! There it is law not to wear hijab, and look what happend! They are like the christians in Denmark relegion is only in their name. I think that people should be forced to learn about Islam and all that. But not forced to 5 prayers ore hijab ore anything. But then people would slowly begin to do it 3nodding
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:50 pm
Zaaki If i owned a provence... Then i woulden't exacly burn churches, but change them to mosques ore sumthing smile How does that make you a better person, Zaaki? You're just as biased as the idiots who burn down churches because they are not Islamic mosques. You should respect other people's religions...heck even the Prophet (pbuh) recognized an individual's right to practice their faith! You should too. Zaaki Ofcurse we should have our rights, and not be forced. But violence against outlaws, is not always haram. Zaaki And reason why some leaders do forbid the human rights, is because they are too stupid to know what to do, soo instead they make hard rules.
Zaaki Example in Iran u must wear hijab, and be very relegious and that because that they are scared that people whill forget Islam.
Zaaki Unlike places like Turkey! There it is law not to wear hijab, and look what happend! They are like the christians in Denmark relegion is only in their name. Zaaki I think that people should be forced to learn about Islam and all that. But not forced to 5 prayers ore hijab ore anything. But then people would slowly begin to do it 3nodding
And to force women to wear a hijab is nothing more than barbaric. Just like forcing people to convert: It has no meaning unless the individual accepts it of his/her own free will.
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The Dead Terrorist Achmed
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:15 pm
Zaaki Don't u understand? What in lady luck's cast iron corset! = What the **** That's how some things u write, i imagine as being lol Not understanding confused
I don't talk like that at all. Your assuming gets you nowhereZaaki If You are under muslim protection, then u must pay those who protect u i guess...
I would move and leave and go to a country that believes in separation of religion and state. I refuse to pay for Muslim protection as much as I would hate to pay for Christian protection or any other protection from any other religion. It's supposed to be a freaking religion of peace, why should I pay you to protect me?
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:30 pm
now people let us be nice to the imbecile who think he is smart
we all know how immature he is so listen more to people like achmed and the others instead of him
i like achmed point
n zaaki...............................islam is not a religion by force
if islam is why Rasullah do not enforce Islam as A LAW in Madinah? and After conquering back Makkah?
we become Muslim by heart not by blood not by law
n then religion protection???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
OMG!!!! what the world became to if religion is a symbol of power and money??
man you really are ************************* zaaki
n pliease for Islam sake....................think quadrant of time before you say something, go to the library and read up first for Islam sake
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:44 pm
dark__sunshin
Islam attaches great importance to the concept of pardoning of sins by Allah so that one may be saved from Hellfire. On several occasions, The Holy Quran gives such prayers as "Pardon us, forgive us our sins, and have mercy upon us" (Quran 2/286).
Allah assures us that no matter what our sin, if we truly repent and seek His forgiveness, and take steps to put right our wrongs, He will forgive us. The Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h.) said, "My heart is clouded until I have asked God’s forgiveness seventy times during the day and night."
We are likewise asked to show mercy to our fellow men. (Quran 90/17) Since God is Himself forgiving, He desires that people should cultivate this attribute and show forgiveness to other human beings. (Quran 24/22; 64/14).
The Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h.) taught his followers that the individual who pardons his enemy, even while having the power to extract revenge, will be nearest to God in the Hereafter. Once the Prophet (p.b.u.h.) was asked, "How many times are we to forgive our servants’ faults?" He remained silent. The questioner repeated his question. But the Prophet gave no answer. But when the person asked a third time, he said, "Forgive your servant seventy times a day."
The Holy Quran makes it clear that a strong, adverse, emotional reaction such as anger does not befit the true believer, and instead cites as a mark of excellence the quality of forgiveness: "When they become angry, they are forgiving." (Quran 42/37)
Source: www.alrisala.org Allah does not forgive EVERYTHING even if the servant repents such as if you are bad towards your parents its up to your parents to forgive you if not then Allah does not forgive rather he will give a certain amount of your good deeds to your parents. also SHIRK allah says he will NEVER EVER EVER forgive someone who does shirk
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:02 pm
XxXZero_BeatXxX dark__sunshin
Islam attaches great importance to the concept of pardoning of sins by Allah so that one may be saved from Hellfire. On several occasions, The Holy Quran gives such prayers as "Pardon us, forgive us our sins, and have mercy upon us" (Quran 2/286).
Allah assures us that no matter what our sin, if we truly repent and seek His forgiveness, and take steps to put right our wrongs, He will forgive us. The Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h.) said, "My heart is clouded until I have asked God’s forgiveness seventy times during the day and night."
We are likewise asked to show mercy to our fellow men. (Quran 90/17) Since God is Himself forgiving, He desires that people should cultivate this attribute and show forgiveness to other human beings. (Quran 24/22; 64/14).
The Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h.) taught his followers that the individual who pardons his enemy, even while having the power to extract revenge, will be nearest to God in the Hereafter. Once the Prophet (p.b.u.h.) was asked, "How many times are we to forgive our servants’ faults?" He remained silent. The questioner repeated his question. But the Prophet gave no answer. But when the person asked a third time, he said, "Forgive your servant seventy times a day."
The Holy Quran makes it clear that a strong, adverse, emotional reaction such as anger does not befit the true believer, and instead cites as a mark of excellence the quality of forgiveness: "When they become angry, they are forgiving." (Quran 42/37)
Source: www.alrisala.org Allah does not forgive EVERYTHING even if the servant repents such as if you are bad towards your parents its up to your parents to forgive you if not then Allah does not forgive rather he will give a certain amount of your good deeds to your parents. also SHIRK allah says he will NEVER EVER EVER forgive someone who does shirk
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The Dead Terrorist Achmed
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:12 am
The Dead Terrorist Achmed Zaaki If i owned a provence... Then i woulden't exacly burn churches, but change them to mosques ore sumthing smile How does that make you a better person, Zaaki? You're just as biased as the idiots who burn down churches because they are not Islamic mosques. You should respect other people's religions...heck even the Prophet (pbuh) recognized an individual's right to practice their faith! You should too. Zaaki Ofcurse we should have our rights, and not be forced. But violence against outlaws, is not always haram. Zaaki And reason why some leaders do forbid the human rights, is because they are too stupid to know what to do, soo instead they make hard rules.
Zaaki Example in Iran u must wear hijab, and be very relegious and that because that they are scared that people whill forget Islam.
Zaaki Unlike places like Turkey! There it is law not to wear hijab, and look what happend! They are like the christians in Denmark relegion is only in their name. Zaaki I think that people should be forced to learn about Islam and all that. But not forced to 5 prayers ore hijab ore anything. But then people would slowly begin to do it 3nodding
And to force women to wear a hijab is nothing more than barbaric. Just like forcing people to convert: It has no meaning unless the individual accepts it of his/her own free will.Achmed 1. Next time, READ beffore you talk, ok wink 2. What are you talking about? I even got sources from that! 3. Some people are just like that wink But it's mostly not their foult. 4. Umm! I can prove it wrong! Look at Turkey! They diden't have the rules! Now look! They got paintings of Jesus and all that, at the mosques. They forbid hijab. And we could go on? Iran is more relegious. 5. I know, but this is only a prove. 6. Your right in that i guess... The private school thing, i don't understand ore care about...
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:38 am
Quote: Allah does not forgive EVERYTHING even if the servant repents such as if you are bad towards your parents its up to your parents to forgive you if not then Allah does not forgive rather he will give a certain amount of your good deeds to your parents. also SHIRK allah says he will NEVER EVER EVER forgive someone who does shirk Allah does forgive Shirk 4:48 God Forgiveth not That partners should be set up With HIm but He Forgiveth anything else To whorm he pleaseth, To set up partners with God is to devise a sin most heinous indeed also 25:68-71 reinforces this. I would type it out but i must now run for Guard duty. So ill do so when i get back
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:58 pm
We Dont Negotiate Quote: Allah does not forgive EVERYTHING even if the servant repents such as if you are bad towards your parents its up to your parents to forgive you if not then Allah does not forgive rather he will give a certain amount of your good deeds to your parents. also SHIRK allah says he will NEVER EVER EVER forgive someone who does shirk Allah does forgive Shirk 4:48 God Forgiveth not That partners should be set up With HIm but He Forgiveth anything else To whorm he pleaseth, To set up partners with God is to devise a sin most heinous indeed also 25:68-71 reinforces this. I would type it out but i must now run for Guard duty. So ill do so when i get back thank you for the correction brother much appreciated cool
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:29 pm
XxXZero_BeatXxX We Dont Negotiate Quote: Allah does not forgive EVERYTHING even if the servant repents such as if you are bad towards your parents its up to your parents to forgive you if not then Allah does not forgive rather he will give a certain amount of your good deeds to your parents. also SHIRK allah says he will NEVER EVER EVER forgive someone who does shirk Allah does forgive Shirk 4:48 God Forgiveth not That partners should be set up With HIm but He Forgiveth anything else To whorm he pleaseth, To set up partners with God is to devise a sin most heinous indeed also 25:68-71 reinforces this. I would type it out but i must now run for Guard duty. So ill do so when i get back thank you for the correction brother much appreciated cool No problem! *hug*
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:20 pm
Soo who likes World Of Warcraft?
Refreshing topic, løl....
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