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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:30 am
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:12 am
Blood- Oh god, that was hilarious. So very hilarious. xDDD
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:25 pm
im so glad this thread has taken of. Although i kinda disagree with some theories. (or one?) im going to re-read them again. Just to see in which direction the thread was going.
Question? wasn't Karl FORCED to become chevalier?
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:01 pm
nope he wanted deva to do it
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:29 pm
The Golden Standard B) Karl Fei-Ong was introduced to Diva in 1917 by Amshel. When he met her, he requested that she turn him into a chevalier. Amshel later says he only chose Karl to use him as a guinea pig for their new Delta project. Karl's body was heavily modified by Amshel's experiments, including having the arm Saya destroyed in Vietnam in 1972 replaced with a spiked arm. His traumatic past, Diva's inability to give him the love he sought, and forced conversion seems to have left Karl severely mentally unbalanced. However, Solomon, the only one who could calm Karl's mania, believed Karl's problems stemmed from his being lonely and not seeing that Solomon was always there and watching over him
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:00 am
which episode was that?? 20 something???
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:21 am
Part One Part Two Part Three
I'm sorry, but did anyone else laugh at Karl when Diva bit him in Part One? It sound sounded... redface Anyways...here you go.
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:01 pm
Ok maybe i got a different sub than you guys. But at 14:37, Solomon says they made Karl against his will. Even though later in that same episode Amshel says that Karl ONLY wanted Diva's LOVE. So maybe Karl was in love with Diva before he became a Chevalier?? Maybe he did not know about Diva's true nature? And thats why Solomon says they turned him against his will? BTW i watched all of Blood + on Veoh. Heres the ep in question. http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/animation/watch/v921571y66qYcSgNote @ Stardust: could you please use a different color font its kinda hard to read. Thanks. Also who is Charles i dont remember? Was that the american navy dude? Or the leader of Sifu? Anorther BTW : i havent read the manga ....yet . So might not know the same plots that you do. Thanks posting yall !
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:14 pm
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:04 pm
oo, oo, now my curiosity is peeked. Im gonna listen (really listen) to the Japanese and find out which one is correct.
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:42 pm
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:26 pm
wait wait WAIT.
Blood+ vol. 5.
What the hell Nathan.
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:29 pm
I'm confused. What about Nathan? >3> **doesn't have vol.5 handy right now** All I remember is being inherently depressed at the end like... 'My God I want to go paint some things black'. ☆
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:50 am
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:15 pm
Yeah--he did. **went and reread this morning** It surprised me and didn't surprise me. In vol.4 he was incredibly upset by Diva's reaction to her killing James--I think he finally realized that Diva thinks of them as playthings; expendable, because she can make more. It brought more character to Nathan, in my opinion, because it showed that even he thought more of the others than Diva did. He was repulsed by the fact that she would tear through her own chevalier--one who put her above all else, I might mention--to get to her own ends, and cared nothing for her fallen protector. While I did like Diva's character as well, we've got to face it; she was consumed by trying to win Saya's love and attention, so much so that nothing else mattered.
Apparently, least of all the chevaliers who'd given up their mortal lives to serve her for as long as she deemed.
And James, who she cut down in pursuit of Saya, was one of the most loyal to her. She was his everything; his ivory goddess. Nathan knew this as well as the others; and I think it was incredibly emotionally scarring for him to see her just kill him like that and then wave it off afterwards. ☆
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