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 Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:18 pm
I've been reading the posts on this second page, And I might be able to help...
You asked if God will send a good person who doesn't pray to Hell, It depends how good you are. If you fast, Give charity, Abstain from Evil doings such as harming others or stealing (Major ones, Minor ones can be fixed through praying and abstaining from major sins) then for the most part your good. But before we rush to say Prayer isn't needed, It indeed is, Prayer unites the person with God, So anyone who is pious enough to be a good person would want to pray anyway, It gives you security and keeps you safe from the worlds harm. I've read on a site once that prayer is like a call to Allah (SWT) in which you have him as your savior and guardian, And everytime you pray it is as if you are telling him you remember him and that your safe. (For example on how a child will call their parents to tell them they are okay)
I hope this helps.
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:04 am
Haydar Al-Sidq I've been reading the posts on this second page, And I might be able to help... You asked if God will send a good person who doesn't pray to Hell, It depends how good you are. If you fast, Give charity, Abstain from Evil doings such as harming others or stealing (Major ones, Minor ones can be fixed through praying and abstaining from major sins) then for the most part your good. But before we rush to say Prayer isn't needed, It indeed is, Prayer unites the person with God, So anyone who is pious enough to be a good person would want to pray anyway, It gives you security and keeps you safe from the worlds harm. I've read on a site once that prayer is like a call to Allah (SWT) in which you have him as your savior and guardian, And everytime you pray it is as if you are telling him you remember him and that your safe. (For example on how a child will call their parents to tell them they are okay) I hope this helps. Thank you, Haydar my friend. I've always promised myself that I will start praying, I know I'm a good person, and I fast (I guess the only thing I do as a muslim...) Never been to Mecka, I will give money, clothes or food for charity, we're done that before, but okay, it was my parents. Ehm...I have not done bad things. I'm a good person, I think. But maybe, not good enough...the truth is, I don't know...I don't know, I know know you don't care, about how I feel...but Eh..nevermind
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:50 am
Rania, i feel like not being soo good, even by praying 5 times. Cause i don't know the qur'an, i diden't even read it. I don't know what to say beffore going to diffrent rooms(example the Ghof Ranak after toilet.) And the dua'h after wudhuu... There is soo much i don't know, soo... I don't know lølz razz But my imaan is high, and yours is too( i think) soo we whill be showed the right way biggrin
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:15 pm
_rainarai_ Haydar Al-Sidq I've been reading the posts on this second page, And I might be able to help... You asked if God will send a good person who doesn't pray to Hell, It depends how good you are. If you fast, Give charity, Abstain from Evil doings such as harming others or stealing (Major ones, Minor ones can be fixed through praying and abstaining from major sins) then for the most part your good. But before we rush to say Prayer isn't needed, It indeed is, Prayer unites the person with God, So anyone who is pious enough to be a good person would want to pray anyway, It gives you security and keeps you safe from the worlds harm. I've read on a site once that prayer is like a call to Allah (SWT) in which you have him as your savior and guardian, And everytime you pray it is as if you are telling him you remember him and that your safe. (For example on how a child will call their parents to tell them they are okay) I hope this helps. Thank you, Haydar my friend. I've always promised myself that I will start praying, I know I'm a good person, and I fast (I guess the only thing I do as a muslim...) Never been to Mecka, I will give money, clothes or food for charity, we're done that before, but okay, it was my parents. Ehm...I have not done bad things. I'm a good person, I think. But maybe, not good enough...the truth is, I don't know...I don't know, I know know you don't care, about how I feel...but Eh..nevermind Well we are friends so on the contrary I do care how you feel, Lol. And that's great that you aren't a bad person, It's better to be neutral than bad, and Good than Neutral. I myself don't go with the whole "One community of Muslims will go to Heaven because of the exact way they believe" No no no, Any person who is pious should go to Heaven, And usually when they don't have faith or know God is when they've never been taught. (Parents never taught them) And yes it's better to fast and give charity then absolutely nothing, Because Prayer is not simply prostration and bowing, Giving Charity is a way of worship to Allah (SWT), Thinking of Allah (SWT) is a way to worship him, Mentioning his name wherever you are and with whatever your doing is also a way to worship him. Do you see what I'm saying? Just avoid bad things and remember Allah (SWT), It's not very difficult. And to you Zaaki, All of those Dua'hs aren't really needed if you ask me, Everyone has to go to the bathroom everyday at any certain time, And it's not really required to say things cause I doubt many people say Dua'hs when they're about to do their business.
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:35 pm
Believe me, there is like important dua'h to it all stressed
Picking up the book, dua'h lol
Going to toilet, duah...
Going into a room, duah...
drinking eating, duah...
i can find lota examples
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:17 pm
The_Pathan Believe me, there is like important dua'h to it all stressed Picking up the book, dua'h lol Going to toilet, duah... Going into a room, duah... drinking eating, duah... i can find lota examples Yes they are important but I don't think they are required. Also it should simply be used to remind you of Allah (SWT) So you don't transgress in what you do in any way. I myself say a dua'h before eating and drinking, And whenever a unique or rare event occurs.
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:41 pm
Haydar Al-Sidq _rainarai_ Haydar Al-Sidq I've been reading the posts on this second page, And I might be able to help... You asked if God will send a good person who doesn't pray to Hell, It depends how good you are. If you fast, Give charity, Abstain from Evil doings such as harming others or stealing (Major ones, Minor ones can be fixed through praying and abstaining from major sins) then for the most part your good. But before we rush to say Prayer isn't needed, It indeed is, Prayer unites the person with God, So anyone who is pious enough to be a good person would want to pray anyway, It gives you security and keeps you safe from the worlds harm. I've read on a site once that prayer is like a call to Allah (SWT) in which you have him as your savior and guardian, And everytime you pray it is as if you are telling him you remember him and that your safe. (For example on how a child will call their parents to tell them they are okay) I hope this helps. Thank you, Haydar my friend. I've always promised myself that I will start praying, I know I'm a good person, and I fast (I guess the only thing I do as a muslim...) Never been to Mecka, I will give money, clothes or food for charity, we're done that before, but okay, it was my parents. Ehm...I have not done bad things. I'm a good person, I think. But maybe, not good enough...the truth is, I don't know...I don't know, I know know you don't care, about how I feel...but Eh..nevermind Well we are friends so on the contrary I do care how you feel, Lol. And that's great that you aren't a bad person, It's better to be neutral than bad, and Good than Neutral. I myself don't go with the whole "One community of Muslims will go to Heaven because of the exact way they believe" No no no, Any person who is pious should go to Heaven, And usually when they don't have faith or know God is when they've never been taught. (Parents never taught them) And yes it's better to fast and give charity then absolutely nothing, Because Prayer is not simply prostration and bowing, Giving Charity is a way of worship to Allah (SWT), Thinking of Allah (SWT) is a way to worship him, Mentioning his name wherever you are and with whatever your doing is also a way to worship him. Do you see what I'm saying? Just avoid bad things and remember Allah (SWT), It's not very difficult. (: I understand, and yes, it's not difficult, I will try.
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:48 pm
The_Pathan Rania, i feel like not being soo good, even by praying 5 times. Cause i don't know the qur'an, i diden't even read it. I don't know what to say beffore going to diffrent rooms(example the Ghof Ranak after toilet.) And the dua'h after wudhuu... There is soo much i don't know, soo... I don't know lølz razz But my imaan is high, and yours is too( i think) soo we whill be showed the right way biggrin Ehh...I don't know... And about the dua everywhere...eh, no I shouldn't say anything I know nothing about these things. You know what the problem is? For me life is:
Living for today, having fun. orThinking about afterlife...Not, that you people don't have fun, and things..but I meant more like, because I am not a very religious person, but you see...I'm trying...to focus on that, being a good Muslim...but...time :/
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:46 pm
_rainarai_ The_Pathan Rania, i feel like not being soo good, even by praying 5 times. Cause i don't know the qur'an, i diden't even read it. I don't know what to say beffore going to diffrent rooms(example the Ghof Ranak after toilet.) And the dua'h after wudhuu... There is soo much i don't know, soo... I don't know lølz razz But my imaan is high, and yours is too( i think) soo we whill be showed the right way biggrin Ehh...I don't know... And about the dua everywhere...eh, no I shouldn't say anything I know nothing about these things. You know what the problem is? For me life is:
Living for today, having fun. orThinking about afterlife...Not, that you people don't have fun, and things..but I meant more like, because I am not a very religious person, but you see...I'm trying...to focus on that, being a good Muslim...but...time :/ My mother actually thinks the same way as you do, and is the same as you in ways. I have fun myself, And I still do all of these things such as prayer and what not, As long as you have the desire and drive to do as your Lord pleases you should be fine. Effort at all is better than the opposite or nothing toward the cause of reaching Heaven.
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:51 am
My parrents never told me those duah's, soo ^^
My parrents are hard workers, and kinda don't got the time for 5 time prayers. They are also very tired i guess... My dad does it somethimes after bath(cause he made wudhuu, soo why not do it anyways) and at eid.
If i lived in a place where time was time, and there was nothing to do, then ofcurse i would pray.
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:18 am
XD those Duahs are like only one line and just 4 to 7 words or a lil longer but they aren't that big but i can't remember them XD
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:45 am
Haydar Al-Sidq _rainarai_ The_Pathan Rania, i feel like not being soo good, even by praying 5 times. Cause i don't know the qur'an, i diden't even read it. I don't know what to say beffore going to diffrent rooms(example the Ghof Ranak after toilet.) And the dua'h after wudhuu... There is soo much i don't know, soo... I don't know lølz razz But my imaan is high, and yours is too( i think) soo we whill be showed the right way biggrin Ehh...I don't know... And about the dua everywhere...eh, no I shouldn't say anything I know nothing about these things. You know what the problem is? For me life is:
Living for today, having fun. orThinking about afterlife...Not, that you people don't have fun, and things..but I meant more like, because I am not a very religious person, but you see...I'm trying...to focus on that, being a good Muslim...but...time :/ My mother actually thinks the same way as you do, and is the same as you in ways. I have fun myself, And I still do all of these things such as prayer and what not, As long as you have the desire and drive to do as your Lord pleases you should be fine. Effort at all is better than the opposite or nothing toward the cause of reaching Heaven. True...
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:56 am
tassan XD those Duahs are like only one line and just 4 to 7 words or a lil longer but they aren't that big but i can't remember them XD and i don't know them
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:02 pm
The_Pathan My parrents never told me those duah's, soo ^^ My parrents are hard workers, and kinda don't got the time for 5 time prayers. They are also very tired i guess... My dad does it somethimes after bath(cause he made wudhuu, soo why not do it anyways) and at eid. If i lived in a place where time was time, and there was nothing to do, then ofcurse i would pray. Your parents could combine prayers, Such as Zhur and Asar together, Or Magrib and Isha. From the Qur'an: “Undertake the prayer at the time of the declining sun to the darkness of the night and the morning recitation; for indeed the morning recitation is witnessed”(Qur'an: Chapter 17, Verse 7 cool From your Sunnah: The Prophet (s) prayed in Madinah, while residing there, not travelling, seven and eight (this is an indication to the seven Raka't of Maghrib and 'Isha' combined, and the eight Raka't of Zuhr and `Asr combined).[Ahmad ibn Hanbal, al-Musnad, vol. 1, page 221] The Prophet (s) prayed Zuhr and `Asr in combination and Maghrib and 'Isha' in combination without a reason for fear or travel.[Malik ibn Anas, al-Muwatta', vol. 1, page 161] Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Messenger of Allah (s) combined the noon prayer with the afternoon prayer and the sunset prayer with the 'Isha' prayer in Medina without being in a state of danger or rainfall. And in the hadith transmitted by Waki' (the words are): “I said to Ibn 'Abbas: What prompted him to do that? He said: So that his (Prophet's) Ummah should not be put to (unnecessary) hardship.”[Sahih Muslim (English translation), Kitab al-Salat, Book 4, Chapter 100 Combination of prayers when one is resident, hadith no. 1520; Sunan al-Tirmidhi, vol. 1, p. 26] Well just a suggestion anyway, Not really your parents fault if they never get time off.
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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:15 am
Ofcurse they got time, it's not that. But they are tired... I also somethimes feel too lazy to do wudhuu and all that... I got PM from a guild member who had the lazyness problem too...
But it will thake time to learn how to do cominationed namaz?
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