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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:36 pm
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:34 am
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:04 pm
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Bharatanatyam dancer1 XxXMixedMartialArtistXxX The_Pathan Also, Allah already desided who you are going to marry ^_^ You don't have to look at the person, date the peson, have kids with the person beffore getting married. That's a diffrence between kafirs and muslims. I don't touch any christian girl either... You must keep your honour, and your cleanness. Not like whores. That is THE most dumbest response ever dont you guys use freakin logic??? Allah this, Allah that!! give a real response!. omg First of all theres nothing wrong with dating if you are just trying to know the person. Im sure people dont want to have any marriage with a girl they cant even see it makes NO sense. I for one understand BASIC covering for weman AFTER there married but WTH??? Second of all pathan. who the living hell are you to judge anyone??? "That's a diffrence between kafirs and muslims." not ALL kafirs do what sooo many muslims claim. yes many do have prostitutes, pornos, etc.. but guess what! YOU MUSLIMS DO IT ASWELL and dont even think for a second that "O its hardly unheard of in the muslim world" that will be a load of crap! u have no right calling anyone a whore, you should get out more and see what muslims are doing. even in ur own turf in EUROPE!!!. Further more i never said you had to "date the peson, have kids with the person beffore getting married." although dating is ok or it should be anyway. but i never said have sex with the girl. the point to have a wife is to freakin look at her before marrigae to see if she is pretty and attractive to you from the inside and depending on the person the outside aswell its says so in the hadith so dont give me that crap. Weman dont need to rlly cover there faces besdies that whole rape thing is not from being attractive its for male control! so theres no point you cant force them to wear something they dont want to! if they choose to thats a different story. but yet again if she plans on finding a spouse in this day and age im pretty sure she gotta loose the thing. ok, firstly I would like to address the issue of covering. Firstly, the face is not necessary, in fact I think that the niqab is a very brilliant thing. In fact, since it is hijab for a woman to cover her awrah (private parts), some people consider the mouth to be private and so the mouth is covered. You said so yourself that you don't agree with the covering of a muslim women right, because of the fact that you can not see anything. I'm just going to tell you that, that reason right there is the reason that most of us do cover. A woman should be acknowledge for her personality and her intelligence not her appearance. And what do you mean about Allah this and Allah that? We are happy to be muslims.. and we are happy to serve Allah, he is our creator why shouldn't we praise him? What you are talking about is really nonsense
the reason i said that was because u muslims never give a logical answer!
ALLAH says so dosnt answer crap. anyway lots a people ALSO care about how a girl looks besides smarts and etc.. |
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Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:27 am
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:07 am
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Hijab: BY DR. ZAKIR NAIK
By Dr. Zakir Naik
http://www.islamicvoice.com/october.98/zakir.htm
There are many non-Muslims who have studied Islam. Most of them have only read books on Islam written by biased critics of Islam. These non-Muslims have a different set of twenty common misconceptions about Islam. For instance, they claim to have found contradictions in the Qur’an, they contend that the Qur’an is unscientific etc. In this issue I shall deal with Hijab.
Question: Why does Islam degrade the women by keeping her in the veil?
Answer: The status of women in Islam is often the target of attacks in the secular media. The ‘hijab’ or the Islamic dress is cited by many as an example of the ‘subjugation’ of women under Islamic law. Before we analyse the reasoning behind the religiously mandated ‘hijab’, let us first study the status of women in societies before the advent of Islam
I. In the past women were degraded and used as objects of lust
The following examples from history amply illustrate the fact that the status of women in earlier civilizations was very low to the extent that they were denied basic human dignity:
1. Babylonian civilization
The women were degraded and were denied all rights under the Babylonian law. If a man murdered a woman, instead of him being punished, his wife was put to death.
2. Greek civilization
Greek civilization is considered the most glorious of all ancient civilizations. Under this very ‘glorious’ system, women were deprived of all rights and were looked down upon. In Greek mythology, an ‘imaginary woman’ called ‘Pandora’ is the root cause of misfortune of human beings. The Greeks considered women to be subhuman and inferior to men. Though chastity of women was precious, and women were held in high esteem, the Greeks were later overwhelmed by ego and sexual perversions. Prostitution became a regular practice amongst all classes of Greek society.
3. Roman civilization
When Roman civilization was at the zenith of its ‘glory’, a man even had the right to take the life of his wife. Prostitution and nudity were common amongst the Romans.
4. Egyptian civilization
The Egyptian considered women evil and as a sign of a devil.
5. Pre-Islamic Arabia
Before Islam spread in Arabia, the Arabs looked down upon the women and very often when a female was born she was buried alive.
II. Islam uplifted women and gave them equality and expects them to maintain their status.
Islam uplifted the status of women and granted them their just rights 1400 years ago. Islam expects women to maintain their status.
Hijab for men
People usually only discuss ‘hijab’ in the context of women only. However, in the Glorious Qur’an, Allah (swt) first mentions ‘hijab’ for men before ‘hijab’ for the women. The Qur’an mentions in Surah Al Noor: “Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do.” [Al-Qur’an 24:30]
The moment a man looks at a woman and if any brazen or unashamed thought comes to his mind, he should lower his gaze.
Hijab for women.
The next verse of Surah Noor, says: “ And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands’ fathers, their sons, their husbands’ sons, their brothers or their brothers’ sons, or their sisters’ sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye believers! Turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss.” [Al-Qur’an 24:31]
III. Six criteria for Hijab.
According to Qur’an and Sunnah there are basically six criteria for observing hijab:
i. Extent
The first criterion is the extent of the body that should be covered. This is different for men and women. The extent of covering obligatory on the male is to cover the body at least from the navel to the knees. For women, the obligatory level of covering is to cover the whole body except the face and the hands upto the wrist. If they wish to, they can cover even these parts of the body. Some scholars of Islam insist that the face and the hands are part of the obligatory extent of ‘hijab’. All the remaining five criteria are the same for men and women.
ii. Should not reveal figure.
The second criterion is that the clothes they wear should be loose and should not reveal the figure.
iii. Should not be transparent.
The third criterion is that the clothes they wear should not be transparent such that one can see through them.
iv. Not attract opposite sex.
The clothes they wear should be not be so glamorous as to attract the opposite sex.
v. Should not resemble the clothes of the opposite sex.
The fifth criterion is that the clothes they wear should not resemble that of the opposite sex.
vi. Should not resemble the clothes of the unbelievers.
The clothes they wear should not resemble that of the unbelievers i.e. they should not wear clothes that are specifically identities or symbols of the unbelievers’ religions.
IV. Hijab includes conduct and behaviour among other things
Complete ‘hijab’, besides the six criteria of clothing, also includes the moral conduct, behaviour, attitude and intention of the individual. A person only fulfilling the criteria of ‘hijab’ of the clothes is observing ‘hijab’ in a limited sense. ‘Hijab’ of the clothes should be accompanied by ‘hijab’ of the eyes, ‘hijab’ of the heart, ‘hijab’ of thought and ‘hijab’ of intention. It also includes the way a person walks, the way a person talks, the way he behaves etc.
V. Hijab prevents molestation
The reason why Hijab is prescribed for women is mentioned in the Qur’an in the following verse of Surah Al-Ahzab: “O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad); that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” [Al-Qur’an 33:59]
The Qur’an says that Hijab has been prescribed for the women so that they are recognized as modest women and this will also prevent them from being molested.
VI. Example of twin sisters
Suppose two sisters who are twins, and who are equally beautiful, walk down the street. One of them is attired in the Islamic hijab i.e. the whole body is covered, except for the face and the hands up to the wrists. The other sister is wearing western clothes, a skirt or a mini. Just around the corner there is a hooligan or ruffian who is waiting for a catch, to tease a girl. Whom will he tease? The girl wearing the Islamic Hijab or the girl wearing the skirt or the mini? Naturally he will tease the girl wearing the skirt or the mini. Such dresses are an indirect invitation to the opposite sex for teasing and molestation. The Qur’an rightly says that hijab prevents the women from being molested.
VII. Capital punishment for rapist
Under the Islamic Shariah a man convicted of having raped a woman, is given capital punishment. Many are astonished at this ‘harsh’ sentence. Some even say that Islam is a ruthless, and barbaric religion! I have asked a simple question to hundreds of non-Muslim men. Suppose, God forbid, someone rapes your wife, your mother or your sister. You are made the judge and the rapist is brought in front of you. What punishment would you give him? All of them said they would put him to death. Some went to the extent of saying they would torture him to death. To them I ask, if someone rapes your wife or your mother you want to put him to death. But if the same crime is committed on somebody else’s wife or daughter you say capital punishment is barbaric. Why the double standards?
VIII. Western society falsely claims to have uplifted women
Western talk of women’s liberalization is nothing but a disguised form of exploitation of her body, degradation of her soul, and deprivation of her honour. Western society claims to have ‘uplifted’ women. On the contrary it has actually degraded them to the status of concubines, mistresses and society butterflies who are employed as mere tools at the hands of pleasure seekers and sex marketeers hidden behind the colourful screen of ‘art’ and ‘culture’.
IX. USA has one of the highest rates of rape
United States of America is supposed to be one of the most advanced countries of the world. It also has one of the highest rates of rape of any country in the world. According to an FBI report, in the year 1990, every day on an average 1756 cases of rape were committed in U.S.A alone. Later another report said that on an average everyday 1900 cases of rapes are committed in USA. The year was not mentioned. May be it was 1992 or 1993. May be the Americans got ‘bolder’ in the following years.
Consider a scenario where the Islamic hijab is followed in America. Whenever a man looks at a woman and any brazen or unashamed thought comes to his mind, he lowers his gaze. Every woman wears the Islamic hijab, that is the whole body is covered except the face and the hands upto the wrist. After this if any man commits rape he is given capital punishment. I ask you, in such a scenario, will the rate of rape in America increase, will it remain the same, or will it decrease?
X. Implementation of Islamic Shariah will reduce the rate of rapes.
Naturally as soon as Islamic Shariah is implemented positive results will be inevitable. If Islamic Shariah is implemented in any part of the world, whether it is America or Europe, society will breath easier. Hijab does not degrade a woman but uplifts a woman and protects her modesty and chastity.
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:53 pm
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:08 pm
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:47 pm
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:39 pm
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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:59 am
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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 6:36 am
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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 1:25 pm
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XxXMixedMartialArtistXxX Bharatanatyam dancer1 XxXMixedMartialArtistXxX The_Pathan Also, Allah already desided who you are going to marry ^_^ You don't have to look at the person, date the peson, have kids with the person beffore getting married. That's a diffrence between kafirs and muslims. I don't touch any christian girl either... You must keep your honour, and your cleanness. Not like whores. That is THE most dumbest response ever dont you guys use freakin logic??? Allah this, Allah that!! give a real response!. omg First of all theres nothing wrong with dating if you are just trying to know the person. Im sure people dont want to have any marriage with a girl they cant even see it makes NO sense. I for one understand BASIC covering for weman AFTER there married but WTH??? Second of all pathan. who the living hell are you to judge anyone??? "That's a diffrence between kafirs and muslims." not ALL kafirs do what sooo many muslims claim. yes many do have prostitutes, pornos, etc.. but guess what! YOU MUSLIMS DO IT ASWELL and dont even think for a second that "O its hardly unheard of in the muslim world" that will be a load of crap! u have no right calling anyone a whore, you should get out more and see what muslims are doing. even in ur own turf in EUROPE!!!. Further more i never said you had to "date the peson, have kids with the person beffore getting married." although dating is ok or it should be anyway. but i never said have sex with the girl. the point to have a wife is to freakin look at her before marrigae to see if she is pretty and attractive to you from the inside and depending on the person the outside aswell its says so in the hadith so dont give me that crap. Weman dont need to rlly cover there faces besdies that whole rape thing is not from being attractive its for male control! so theres no point you cant force them to wear something they dont want to! if they choose to thats a different story. but yet again if she plans on finding a spouse in this day and age im pretty sure she gotta loose the thing. ok, firstly I would like to address the issue of covering. Firstly, the face is not necessary, in fact I think that the niqab is a very brilliant thing. In fact, since it is hijab for a woman to cover her awrah (private parts), some people consider the mouth to be private and so the mouth is covered. You said so yourself that you don't agree with the covering of a muslim women right, because of the fact that you can not see anything. I'm just going to tell you that, that reason right there is the reason that most of us do cover. A woman should be acknowledge for her personality and her intelligence not her appearance. And what do you mean about Allah this and Allah that? We are happy to be muslims.. and we are happy to serve Allah, he is our creator why shouldn't we praise him? What you are talking about is really nonsense the reason i said that was because u muslims never give a logical answer! ALLAH says so dosnt answer crap. anyway lots a people ALSO care about how a girl looks besides smarts and etc..
(this is Bharatanatyam just to let you know)
Ok first of all if someone cares about a person mainly off of looks then they don't really care for you as a person. |
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:31 am
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XxXMixedMartialArtistXxX The_Pathan Asalam Alaykum biggrin I ben hearing from alot of people in Denmark who studied Islam, that the qur'an dossen't tell about wearing a hijab. They say it tells women not to show, but not to wear a hijab. So i was wondering what is the right thing. Cause i know there is a reason why people are wearing hijab.
So you mean,if you dont want to wear a hijaab,you dont have too. But you still have to wear properly,which is logic of course. |
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