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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:50 pm
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Fresnel Maddness91 Fresnel Maddness91 oh wow colonialist powers left them after generations of resource extraction and slavery? well i can;t see why they turned out so bad xp and sou'frica isn;t doing all to terribly really... it's just when ur country's murder rate is 2nd highest in the world (1 person, per 2000 people) it;s kind of hard to break through into a fully civilized country... hell they almost have nuclear energy figured out... that;s got to count for something right? anyways that;s a topic for another thread... back to pirates of the somalia xp For the record, it's not just murder rates, it's all violent crimes. More SA cops are shot by other SA cops in one year than Aussie cops have been shot by anyone in entire the history of Australia. Rapes are about one per minute, carjackings and armed robberies in the hundreds per week... It's a real shithole of crime. Also let it be said that the people who CAUGHT Africans for slavery were largely African. The Belgians went into the Congo, killed the most powerful group, gave the 2nd most powerful group power and told them "keep the people in line and suppressed, or we'll come and ******** you up like we did the other guys"... not much of a choice man confused moveing on... unless u post something else that twists my guts xp Ok is this an actual movie quote? xd
Either way it made me laugh.
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:53 pm
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Floyd Fresnel Man of the Demoneye How about a decoy boat that looks just like a tanker, but is owned by the navy(s) that just cruises around the area, but has weapons onboard? I'm sure that after having a tanker blow a couple boats out of the water, some will be discouraged. Cruise ship. Tankers have a skeleton crew, giant ******** cruise ships have thousands of rich people on them. During the First and Second World Wars, the British (and later in WWII, the Americans) used second hand freighters and converted them into gun platforms to lure the Germans and Japanese during the more civilized periods of combat. The British ships were called Q ships and sported a dozen hidden cannons and a few torpedo launchers. Now picture a medium sized, beat up oil tanker flying some obscure national flag. There are plenty of oil tankers in storage at any given time, waiting for the final trip to India and the scrap heap. An oil tanker would make for a perfect Q Boat as long as the internal tanks were 100% purged of any volatile gases. Picture a set of launch ramps cut into the aft where 6 of our Navy's fastest Zodiac boats would launch and make snort work of the garbage the pirates are using these days. And the deck would make a fine place to stash an attack helicopter or two. Expensive? More than likely. Effective? Almost 100% if the Somalis try and hit it. Sinking a tanker full of oil is great to cripple the enemy's war machine. If you're trying to make some covert money, fencing TEN MILLION GALLONS of crude oil is going to be really ******** tough. Ransoming off a six-foot, two hundred pound corporate fatcat? Considerably easier. They don't hijack the ship and sell the s**t in it, they grab a handful of expensive things, a couple high-ranking crewmen for ransom, and beat it back to the mainland on their own ship. It's really hard to HIDE a million-ton tanker while you shift the contents.
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:59 pm
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Fresnel Floyd Fresnel Man of the Demoneye How about a decoy boat that looks just like a tanker, but is owned by the navy(s) that just cruises around the area, but has weapons onboard? I'm sure that after having a tanker blow a couple boats out of the water, some will be discouraged. Cruise ship. Tankers have a skeleton crew, giant ******** cruise ships have thousands of rich people on them. During the First and Second World Wars, the British (and later in WWII, the Americans) used second hand freighters and converted them into gun platforms to lure the Germans and Japanese during the more civilized periods of combat. The British ships were called Q ships and sported a dozen hidden cannons and a few torpedo launchers. Now picture a medium sized, beat up oil tanker flying some obscure national flag. There are plenty of oil tankers in storage at any given time, waiting for the final trip to India and the scrap heap. An oil tanker would make for a perfect Q Boat as long as the internal tanks were 100% purged of any volatile gases. Picture a set of launch ramps cut into the aft where 6 of our Navy's fastest Zodiac boats would launch and make snort work of the garbage the pirates are using these days. And the deck would make a fine place to stash an attack helicopter or two. Expensive? More than likely. Effective? Almost 100% if the Somalis try and hit it. Sinking a tanker full of oil is great to cripple the enemy's war machine. If you're trying to make some covert money, fencing TEN MILLION GALLONS of crude oil is going to be really ******** tough. Ransoming off a six-foot, two hundred pound corporate fatcat? Considerably easier. They don't hijack the ship and sell the s**t in it, they grab a handful of expensive things, a couple high-ranking crewmen for ransom, and beat it back to the mainland on their own ship. It's really hard to HIDE a million-ton tanker while you shift the contents. They dry dock it then put a giant tarp over it so we think they just built a really big dirigible.
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:01 pm
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Das Rabble Rouser Fresnel Maddness91 Fresnel Maddness91 oh wow colonialist powers left them after generations of resource extraction and slavery? well i can;t see why they turned out so bad xp and sou'frica isn;t doing all to terribly really... it's just when ur country's murder rate is 2nd highest in the world (1 person, per 2000 people) it;s kind of hard to break through into a fully civilized country... hell they almost have nuclear energy figured out... that;s got to count for something right? anyways that;s a topic for another thread... back to pirates of the somalia xp For the record, it's not just murder rates, it's all violent crimes. More SA cops are shot by other SA cops in one year than Aussie cops have been shot by anyone in entire the history of Australia. Rapes are about one per minute, carjackings and armed robberies in the hundreds per week... It's a real shithole of crime. Also let it be said that the people who CAUGHT Africans for slavery were largely African. The Belgians went into the Congo, killed the most powerful group, gave the 2nd most powerful group power and told them "keep the people in line and suppressed, or we'll come and ******** you up like we did the other guys"... not much of a choice man confused moveing on... unless u post something else that twists my guts xp Ok is this an actual movie quote? xd Either way it made me laugh. It's the line-up to a Nigerian 419 scam. razz
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:04 pm
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:42 pm
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:45 pm
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Fresnel Das Rabble Rouser Fresnel It's the line-up to a Nigerian 419 scam. razz Ah ok lol. My grandpa gets a bunch of those emails. Actually most of the scams he gets are from people claiming they are the director of the FBI. He gets a dozen of them every couple of days and they all have different names. Maybe the director of the FBI just has a really severe case of multiple personality disorder. Oooh, report those to the FBI. That's impersonating a federal agent. That's a felony. 3nodding Nigerian 419 scams, if you fall for one, can be reported to the Secret Service. The CIA tells you "quit ******** calling us, it's not our job. Talk to the Secret Service." Also, it sucks that Secret Service abbreviates to SS, and thus really can't be used without causing massive confusion.
I'll let him know.
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:44 pm
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Fresnel Floyd Fresnel Man of the Demoneye How about a decoy boat that looks just like a tanker, but is owned by the navy(s) that just cruises around the area, but has weapons onboard? I'm sure that after having a tanker blow a couple boats out of the water, some will be discouraged. Cruise ship. Tankers have a skeleton crew, giant ******** cruise ships have thousands of rich people on them. During the First and Second World Wars, the British (and later in WWII, the Americans) used second hand freighters and converted them into gun platforms to lure the Germans and Japanese during the more civilized periods of combat. The British ships were called Q ships and sported a dozen hidden cannons and a few torpedo launchers. Now picture a medium sized, beat up oil tanker flying some obscure national flag. There are plenty of oil tankers in storage at any given time, waiting for the final trip to India and the scrap heap. An oil tanker would make for a perfect Q Boat as long as the internal tanks were 100% purged of any volatile gases. Picture a set of launch ramps cut into the aft where 6 of our Navy's fastest Zodiac boats would launch and make snort work of the garbage the pirates are using these days. And the deck would make a fine place to stash an attack helicopter or two. Expensive? More than likely. Effective? Almost 100% if the Somalis try and hit it. Sinking a tanker full of oil is great to cripple the enemy's war machine. If you're trying to make some covert money, fencing TEN MILLION GALLONS of crude oil is going to be really ******** tough. Ransoming off a six-foot, two hundred pound corporate fatcat? Considerably easier. They don't hijack the ship and sell the s**t in it, they grab a handful of expensive things, a couple high-ranking crewmen for ransom, and beat it back to the mainland on their own ship. It's really hard to HIDE a million-ton tanker while you shift the contents. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7733482.stm
i know that's 1 year ago, but that;s when this problem was the flavor of the month xp
if u look at the "past incidences of the week" they attacked a Saudi merchant ship, Japanese cargo ship, Chinese fishing boat, Turkish chem. transport ship, and a Danish cargo ship... majority rules say they are apparently going after cargo ships... not cruise liners... they don't want to deal with 1000's of people, just a few lives to barter with, and $100M of collateral to destroy if people don't pay enough in ransoms... pay us $50M or we'll kill 20 guys and sink your $100M boat... that;s a damn good business model... it;s how the Crusaders bartered when they got raped in Jerusalem... let us go, or we'll burn the Temple Mount to the ground...
Better list of attacked ships... i'll let u count the numbers xp
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:51 pm
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:26 pm
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