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Ayekasong

PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:03 am
It reminds me of a black Sakubo.  
PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:39 pm
XD So great how she doesn't even realize there's a topic with three pages talking about her.  

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zawardo

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:45 pm
The Slate Scholar
DO IT.
Just make no inference that you know me.
I NEED SPIIIIIIIIIEYYYEIIIIIIES[random hissing noises].

Teehee
you have a spy
 
PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:10 pm
Okay, while I agree that the reaction she had was a tad extreme given the harmless nature of your comment and your subsequent attempts to constructively criticize her, the comments you've posted on her latest entry really do seem to be grudge-flaming. While it is highly hypocritical to post an Arena entry using something that you swore you wouldn't use, that does not specifically take away from the accuracy of the cosplay itself, which is what the comments are supposed to be on, not how she 'stole' ideas from other entries. If the whole thing was one gigantic copy-paste entry that looked exactly like something else posted previously I could understand your two comments, but simply putting it in there to complain about how she's 'copying' your ideas is approaching the level of immaturity you're accusing her of.

NOTE to avoid a flame-debate: I give the above advice with no desire to enter a verbal conflict. this is an entirely objective analysis, insofar as one may be given under the circumstances.  

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yokaiy

PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:09 pm
This is getting a bit out of hand, lovelies.  
PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:23 pm
She may know. Ifyou want to be sure, Remove theuser iMeiyu  

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The Slate Scholar
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:47 am
@Squall/Kite
In order to do that, I would be overstepping my boundaries
as a Crew Member of the guild. While I am unsure that the
user iMeiyu is a friend or a mule of iDoil, that specific account
has not violated any of the rules agreed upon by entering
the guild. iDoil, however, did, which is why I had premise to
ban her from the guild. Until the user actually violates a
rule, I cannot do anything (or until I find out if is a mule of
the same account).

@White
The reason I wrote the comment was to respond to the fact
that she believed her Kottan Bell to be more accurate than
my suggestion of the Noel's Gift. In terms of accuracy, iDoil
believed she was more correct in using the Kottan Bell, and
should she have submitted the avatar with it, I would not
have made such a big deal about copying ideas (I would have
instead referred to the fact that she NEEDED the Noel's Gift).
I understand your argument, and, yes, my comments were
motivated by the grudge; however, this was spurred by the
fact that she had insulted my Endrance cosplay's accuracy
in the arena by simply stating "wrong hair, wrong eyes,
wrong armor," without stating any improvements that may
have been made. When I attempted to respond to her com-
ments, logicall explaining my reasoning, she told me I was
wrong but refused to assist me (I would have considered her
input if it had been a logical argument).

Also note that I have never claimed that I have any level
of maturity. I react to situations like this by composing sar-
donic comments that satiate my desire for vengeance. I
readily acknowledge the fact that I am immature, especially
for my age, and the way I handle things is usually not in the
most mature fashion. However, I do know the proper etiquette
for being an Cospaly Avatar Critic, and that is to keep your
PMs and Comment Box completely available for the opinions
of others. I have 35 pages of comments from my past as a
Critical Critic, and I have never once deleted a single com-
ment and disregarded it. Now, I usually don't respond to com-
ments, instead opting more for those that choose to PM me,
but if the user makes a suggestion (good or bad) and presents
it in a logical way, I will respond with an adequate response.

iDoil critiques others without restraint, but unlike me, she has
prevented users from contacting her in any form. Therefore,
she can hide behind this "safety wall" and be as rude as she
wants without having to fear the backlash from others. That
is highly immature and pathetic in my book, even moreso than
by grude-inspired comments. As aresult, she can also steal others
ideas and falsely credit herself with an "original" idea. While I
have never had a reason to, I would credit those that have in-
spired my cosplay (in fact, I made a journal entry that credits
the users that inspired the "Perfect Cosplays" of the avatar).
iDoil believes she "owns" Shino and "own" all cosplays of Shino;
even makign the remark that someone "copied her" avatar
without her permission (it may have been a simple coincidence,
but because she believes she owns the rights to Shino, every
cosplay must be a copy of hers). She became angry with this
unknown user for "stealing," and I found it hypocritical that she
would get angry with copying (without permission or credit) and
yet she borrwed both of our ideas with asking and without crediting.
I mean, it's common courtesy (I even e-mail the users that I
borrowed my ideas from).

@yokaiy
It has, but I refuse to back down until she stops entering a Shino
or credits those for which she has stolen ideas. I'll even give her
a copy/paste prompt if she wants:
"Thanks to Desyni and The Slate Scholar for contributing to the
completion of this cosplay."
That's all I want. R-E-S-P-E-C-T.
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:22 am
Doctor:
Shino totally has the tear =)

And I'm totally friends with iDoil...
I feel like a p***k, but whatevs
 

zawardo

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:48 am
If I can get proof, then what?  
PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:20 pm
Then I will take the appropriate measures, but not before
e-mailing the account and seeing what kind of response I
ellicit.
 

The Slate Scholar
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:29 pm
Message her then.  
PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:51 pm
Here's your proof: http://www.gaiaonline.com/arena/gallery/?uid=19476714 Look at all of her profile stuff on the left.  

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:26 am
I'm sorry, but I can't see any similarity between the two other than their similar drawing styles, which given the low quality of said art isn't all that surprising. I mean, I draw like that!

And just because both seem to have a Shino fixation doesn't necessarily mean they're the same person, nor that one should be accused of being a mule for the other because of that. I knew one Kite-fixated user that gave me a shitload of grief over my cosplay a while back but I don't accuse every Kite cosplayer of being him.  
PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:01 am
Actually, it is the same person. Before she took her
profile down again, I noted that the "Person behind
Shino" was a 14-year-old girl named May. If you
look at the information on that page as well, the
real-life user is named May. So, they are the same
person.
 

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Crew


Mr Eliot

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:14 pm
you know, looking at this thread, it makes me wish i was enough of a arrogant jerk that people made 3 page threads seeking my doom and destruction.

thankfully im only arrogant. and half a jerk.

but yes, it seems that her secrets are being opened one by one, perhaps the time will come very soon when she shall be at your mercy and definitely she shall pay you respects, or suffer unknowable consequences.

ps- tis alright to be immature at times xd  
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