The 1911 Thread

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This is probably going to sound stupid, but can a gun chambered in .45 Win Mag fire .45 ACP?

yes you can.

just make sure you brush out the chamber REALLY good and make sure there is no leading left behind. you should do this after each shooting session with them and especially before you go back to shooting .45 win mag again through it.

not doing so could be dangerous

Alright, second question- is anything other than the Grizzly chambered in .45 Win Mag that isn't as rare as the Grizzly and/or drastically more expensive than a standard .45 ACP pistol?

theres something rarer that takes it. an AMT IV thats it though
thats about all my google fu can summon

I would reeeeally look into 10mm auto, it does some mean damage and theres a quite a bit of 1911's and other pistols that are chambered for it that are more readily available.  

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Paper Guns: 1911
Feild Strip
Full Cycle ?

Yes a fully functioning Paper Colt 1911, Now I Believe anything is possible.

Also Comes with paper bullets!  

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OMG IT LOOKS LIKE A GUN AND IT CAN BE CONVERTED TO FIRE REAL BULLETS WE MUST BAN IT IMMEDIATELY BEFORE PEOPLE START SHOOTING EACH OTHER WITH PAPER GUNS THAT CAN SLIP THROUGH METAL DETECTORS COMPLETELY UNNOTICED.  

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Since when do paper guns sound like they're made of plastic?  

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Since when do paper guns sound like they're made of plastic?

Another thing I find Ironic that it even has rifling.  

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OMG IT LOOKS LIKE A GUN AND IT CAN BE CONVERTED TO FIRE REAL BULLETS WE MUST BAN IT IMMEDIATELY BEFORE PEOPLE START SHOOTING EACH OTHER WITH PAPER GUNS THAT CAN SLIP THROUGH METAL DETECTORS COMPLETELY UNNOTICED.

Please watch the Full Cycle , It Does fire Real bullents. Only light loads, it might explode if its a high powder charge.  

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-Moon Fire Liako-

Requiem in Mortis

OMG IT LOOKS LIKE A GUN AND IT CAN BE CONVERTED TO FIRE REAL BULLETS WE MUST BAN IT IMMEDIATELY BEFORE PEOPLE START SHOOTING EACH OTHER WITH PAPER GUNS THAT CAN SLIP THROUGH METAL DETECTORS COMPLETELY UNNOTICED.

Please watch the Full Cycle , It Does fire Real bullents. Only light loads, it might explode if its a high powder charge.

Oh, AND he puts a suppressor on it, making it not only an illegally manufactured firearm, but ALSO an illegally manufactured, unregistered class III device. NICE GOING.  

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-Moon Fire Liako-

Requiem in Mortis

OMG IT LOOKS LIKE A GUN AND IT CAN BE CONVERTED TO FIRE REAL BULLETS WE MUST BAN IT IMMEDIATELY BEFORE PEOPLE START SHOOTING EACH OTHER WITH PAPER GUNS THAT CAN SLIP THROUGH METAL DETECTORS COMPLETELY UNNOTICED.

Please watch the Full Cycle , It Does fire Real bullents. Only light loads, it might explode if its a high powder charge.

Oh, AND he puts a suppressor on it, making it not only an illegally manufactured firearm, but ALSO an illegally manufactured, unregistered class III device. NICE GOING.

LOL. XD i just Wonder how he made the gun with the help of /without blueprints. He also made a 1/3 scale Fully functional Kar88 , Some kind of AK and a Pump action shotgun.  

[Recon_Ninja_985]

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-Moon Fire Liako-

Requiem in Mortis

OMG IT LOOKS LIKE A GUN AND IT CAN BE CONVERTED TO FIRE REAL BULLETS WE MUST BAN IT IMMEDIATELY BEFORE PEOPLE START SHOOTING EACH OTHER WITH PAPER GUNS THAT CAN SLIP THROUGH METAL DETECTORS COMPLETELY UNNOTICED.

Please watch the Full Cycle , It Does fire Real bullents. Only light loads, it might explode if its a high powder charge.

Oh, AND he puts a suppressor on it, making it not only an illegally manufactured firearm, but ALSO an illegally manufactured, unregistered class III device. NICE GOING.

its not illegal to manufacture a firearm. it's only illegal if you manufacture with intent to distribute.  

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Recon_Ninja_985

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-Moon Fire Liako-

Requiem in Mortis

OMG IT LOOKS LIKE A GUN AND IT CAN BE CONVERTED TO FIRE REAL BULLETS WE MUST BAN IT IMMEDIATELY BEFORE PEOPLE START SHOOTING EACH OTHER WITH PAPER GUNS THAT CAN SLIP THROUGH METAL DETECTORS COMPLETELY UNNOTICED.

Please watch the Full Cycle , It Does fire Real bullents. Only light loads, it might explode if its a high powder charge.

Oh, AND he puts a suppressor on it, making it not only an illegally manufactured firearm, but ALSO an illegally manufactured, unregistered class III device. NICE GOING.

its not illegal to manufacture a firearm. it's only illegal if you manufacture with intent to distribute.

I highly doubt that's true, because this is the ********' ATF we're talking about, and such a thing as a "firearms manufacturer license" exists, but I haven't the time to look it up at present.  

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-Moon Fire Liako-

Requiem in Mortis

OMG IT LOOKS LIKE A GUN AND IT CAN BE CONVERTED TO FIRE REAL BULLETS WE MUST BAN IT IMMEDIATELY BEFORE PEOPLE START SHOOTING EACH OTHER WITH PAPER GUNS THAT CAN SLIP THROUGH METAL DETECTORS COMPLETELY UNNOTICED.

Please watch the Full Cycle , It Does fire Real bullents. Only light loads, it might explode if its a high powder charge.

Oh, AND he puts a suppressor on it, making it not only an illegally manufactured firearm, but ALSO an illegally manufactured, unregistered class III device. NICE GOING.

its not illegal to manufacture a firearm. it's only illegal if you manufacture with intent to distribute.

I highly doubt that's true, because this is the ********' ATF we're talking about, and such a thing as a "firearms manufacturer license" exists, but I haven't the time to look it up at present.

nah, you can build your own, just cant sell.
that would be a no no  

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-Moon Fire Liako-

Requiem in Mortis

OMG IT LOOKS LIKE A GUN AND IT CAN BE CONVERTED TO FIRE REAL BULLETS WE MUST BAN IT IMMEDIATELY BEFORE PEOPLE START SHOOTING EACH OTHER WITH PAPER GUNS THAT CAN SLIP THROUGH METAL DETECTORS COMPLETELY UNNOTICED.

Please watch the Full Cycle , It Does fire Real bullents. Only light loads, it might explode if its a high powder charge.

Oh, AND he puts a suppressor on it, making it not only an illegally manufactured firearm, but ALSO an illegally manufactured, unregistered class III device. NICE GOING.

its not illegal to manufacture a firearm. it's only illegal if you manufacture with intent to distribute.

I highly doubt that's true, because this is the ********' ATF we're talking about, and such a thing as a "firearms manufacturer license" exists, but I haven't the time to look it up at present.

nah, you can build your own, just cant sell.
that would be a no no

I'm tempted to ask the ATF, but afraid of getting my door kicked in for manufacturing firearms. xd  

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Oh, AND he puts a suppressor on it, making it not only an illegally manufactured firearm, but ALSO an illegally manufactured, unregistered class III device. NICE GOING.

its not illegal to manufacture a firearm. it's only illegal if you manufacture with intent to distribute.

I highly doubt that's true, because this is the ********' ATF we're talking about, and such a thing as a "firearms manufacturer license" exists, but I haven't the time to look it up at present.

nah, you can build your own, just cant sell.
that would be a no no

I'm tempted to ask the ATF, but afraid of getting my door kicked in for manufacturing firearms. xd

its on their faq

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/general.html#gca-manufacturing

With certain exceptions a firearm may be made by a non-licensee provided it is not for sale and the maker is not prohibited from possessing firearms. However, a person is prohibited from assembling a non-sporting semi-automatic rifle or non-sporting shotgun from imported parts. In addition, the making of an NFA firearm requires a tax payment and approval by ATF. An application to make a machine gun will not be approved unless documentation is submitted showing that the firearm is being made for a Federal or State agency.

[18 U.S.C. 922(o) and (r), 26 U.S.C. 5822, 27 CFR 478.39, 479.62 and 479.105]


so there you have it, cant use foreign parts on certain things and you cant make class 3 stuff  

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Oh, AND he puts a suppressor on it, making it not only an illegally manufactured firearm, but ALSO an illegally manufactured, unregistered class III device. NICE GOING.

its not illegal to manufacture a firearm. it's only illegal if you manufacture with intent to distribute.

I highly doubt that's true, because this is the ********' ATF we're talking about, and such a thing as a "firearms manufacturer license" exists, but I haven't the time to look it up at present.

nah, you can build your own, just cant sell.
that would be a no no

I'm tempted to ask the ATF, but afraid of getting my door kicked in for manufacturing firearms. xd

its on their faq

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/general.html#gca-manufacturing

With certain exceptions a firearm may be made by a non-licensee provided it is not for sale and the maker is not prohibited from possessing firearms. However, a person is prohibited from assembling a non-sporting semi-automatic rifle or non-sporting shotgun from imported parts. In addition, the making of an NFA firearm requires a tax payment and approval by ATF. An application to make a machine gun will not be approved unless documentation is submitted showing that the firearm is being made for a Federal or State agency.

[18 U.S.C. 922(o) and (r), 26 U.S.C. 5822, 27 CFR 478.39, 479.62 and 479.105]


so there you have it, cant use foreign parts on certain things and you cant make class 3 stuff

I swear I looked over that exact page four ******** times. @_@  

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This is probably going to sound stupid, but can a gun chambered in .45 Win Mag fire .45 ACP?

yes you can.

just make sure you brush out the chamber REALLY good and make sure there is no leading left behind. you should do this after each shooting session with them and especially before you go back to shooting .45 win mag again through it.

not doing so could be dangerous

Alright, second question- is anything other than the Grizzly chambered in .45 Win Mag that isn't as rare as the Grizzly and/or drastically more expensive than a standard .45 ACP pistol?

theres something rarer that takes it. an AMT IV thats it though
thats about all my google fu can summon

I would reeeeally look into 10mm auto, it does some mean damage and theres a quite a bit of 1911's and other pistols that are chambered for it that are more readily available.

From personal expierence wit gunshops I've been to. There's been 3 Mk 1s i've run across and none of them were selling for over $699 probably on the account that it uses uncommon ammo and they're all used.

The cheapest being $499 at Biff's Gun World off Dixie Highway in Louisville. I'd consider buying it if it's still there in 3 years but only if I decided to move back to pisshole Louisville just to buy it. I really hate that you can't buy handguns outside of your state even if they are collectable.