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 Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:58 pm
Jin Saga Lord Redtail Rathan Jin Saga Lord Redtail Rathan Jin Saga
That! is a very good question! And I'll make it very easy for you, forget about it. Sunni and Shi'a .. you can see it as a lie. The Quran tells us, that Allah gave us the religion Islam, and the prophet said that his followers are Muslims. So authentic, that is the only teaching we got. That we are Muslims and our faith is Islam. Too bad there were people inventing their own road. I will picture it for you. Islam & Muslim is the head road, the road of Allah. Now the shi'a and sunni are side roads invented by people. Now of course we follow Allah's road! Also what I would like to mention, a Sunni is actually a Muslim on Allah's Road, because a Sunni also follows the Sunnah (teachings of the prophet) and the Quran. As we were commanded to do by our Lord! Do you follow this?Yes and no. Would a Shi'a also not be following Allah's path? They both follow the Qu'ran. They just simply differ on who the rightful first Caliph was. That is the only difference I see. Tis like Christianity and its many denominations. They all say they're right and the other is wrong. Are they not all Christian? Are they all not going to the same heaven? You answer both enlighted me...and confused me. Let me say it like this, can you justify that people create a new group in a religion, while God ( their Creater ) gave them a religion and clearly told them to what group they belong. As far of the shi'a they also follow the family of the prophet Muhammed, did Allah command them to do so? absolutely not! Dont get me wrong, I have the deepest respect for the family of Muhammed, I wish for Allah to grant them with a happy rest in Paradise, however! I obey my creater, and he told us many times follow the prophet Muhammed, If he wanted us to follow also his family members he would have told us so. You see where I am going? But God also did not command the Muslims to create a Caliphate and place the person (Forget his name) in that slot. But Caliphate's only intention were to defend the religion, and realise Allah's command, : Spread the Message of Islam. So the whole being of Caliphate's never touched the 'Road' of Allah unlike the different groups. You see? But he never said who should defend Islam. Nor that a Defender was needed. So it all boils down to: What's the big issue and is there any difference outside of the Caliph issue. And is there a middle ground?
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:04 pm
Lord Redtail Rathan Jin Saga Lord Redtail Rathan Jin Saga Lord Redtail Rathan Jin Saga
That! is a very good question! And I'll make it very easy for you, forget about it. Sunni and Shi'a .. you can see it as a lie. The Quran tells us, that Allah gave us the religion Islam, and the prophet said that his followers are Muslims. So authentic, that is the only teaching we got. That we are Muslims and our faith is Islam. Too bad there were people inventing their own road. I will picture it for you. Islam & Muslim is the head road, the road of Allah. Now the shi'a and sunni are side roads invented by people. Now of course we follow Allah's road! Also what I would like to mention, a Sunni is actually a Muslim on Allah's Road, because a Sunni also follows the Sunnah (teachings of the prophet) and the Quran. As we were commanded to do by our Lord! Do you follow this?Yes and no. Would a Shi'a also not be following Allah's path? They both follow the Qu'ran. They just simply differ on who the rightful first Caliph was. That is the only difference I see. Tis like Christianity and its many denominations. They all say they're right and the other is wrong. Are they not all Christian? Are they all not going to the same heaven? You answer both enlighted me...and confused me. Let me say it like this, can you justify that people create a new group in a religion, while God ( their Creater ) gave them a religion and clearly told them to what group they belong. As far of the shi'a they also follow the family of the prophet Muhammed, did Allah command them to do so? absolutely not! Dont get me wrong, I have the deepest respect for the family of Muhammed, I wish for Allah to grant them with a happy rest in Paradise, however! I obey my creater, and he told us many times follow the prophet Muhammed, If he wanted us to follow also his family members he would have told us so. You see where I am going? But God also did not command the Muslims to create a Caliphate and place the person (Forget his name) in that slot. But Caliphate's only intention were to defend the religion, and realise Allah's command, : Spread the Message of Islam. So the whole being of Caliphate's never touched the 'Road' of Allah unlike the different groups. You see? But he never said who should defend Islam. Nor that a Defender was needed. So it all boils down to: What's the big issue and is there any difference outside of the Caliph issue. And is there a middle ground? Well Allah commanded the People to defend Islam. And it the caliphs weren't just chosen. The nearest companions of the prophet were chosen to be caliph. And I'm afraid I dont really understand your question, the middle ground? So if you would like to clear that Q for me wink
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:11 am
Jin Saga Lord Redtail Rathan Jin Saga Lord Redtail Rathan Jin Saga Let me say it like this, can you justify that people create a new group in a religion, while God ( their Creater ) gave them a religion and clearly told them to what group they belong. As far of the shi'a they also follow the family of the prophet Muhammed, did Allah command them to do so? absolutely not! Dont get me wrong, I have the deepest respect for the family of Muhammed, I wish for Allah to grant them with a happy rest in Paradise, however! I obey my creater, and he told us many times follow the prophet Muhammed, If he wanted us to follow also his family members he would have told us so. You see where I am going? But God also did not command the Muslims to create a Caliphate and place the person (Forget his name) in that slot. But Caliphate's only intention were to defend the religion, and realise Allah's command, : Spread the Message of Islam. So the whole being of Caliphate's never touched the 'Road' of Allah unlike the different groups. You see? But he never said who should defend Islam. Nor that a Defender was needed. So it all boils down to: What's the big issue and is there any difference outside of the Caliph issue. And is there a middle ground? Well Allah commanded the People to defend Islam. And it the caliphs weren't just chosen. The nearest companions of the prophet were chosen to be caliph. And I'm afraid I dont really understand your question, the middle ground? So if you would like to clear that Q for me wink I think the whole seperation thing is stupid. Do I HAVE to be Sunni or Shi'a?
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:55 pm
Lord Redtail Rathan Jin Saga Lord Redtail Rathan Jin Saga Lord Redtail Rathan Jin Saga Let me say it like this, can you justify that people create a new group in a religion, while God ( their Creater ) gave them a religion and clearly told them to what group they belong. As far of the shi'a they also follow the family of the prophet Muhammed, did Allah command them to do so? absolutely not! Dont get me wrong, I have the deepest respect for the family of Muhammed, I wish for Allah to grant them with a happy rest in Paradise, however! I obey my creater, and he told us many times follow the prophet Muhammed, If he wanted us to follow also his family members he would have told us so. You see where I am going? But God also did not command the Muslims to create a Caliphate and place the person (Forget his name) in that slot. But Caliphate's only intention were to defend the religion, and realise Allah's command, : Spread the Message of Islam. So the whole being of Caliphate's never touched the 'Road' of Allah unlike the different groups. You see? But he never said who should defend Islam. Nor that a Defender was needed. So it all boils down to: What's the big issue and is there any difference outside of the Caliph issue. And is there a middle ground? Well Allah commanded the People to defend Islam. And it the caliphs weren't just chosen. The nearest companions of the prophet were chosen to be caliph. And I'm afraid I dont really understand your question, the middle ground? So if you would like to clear that Q for me wink I think the whole seperation thing is stupid. Do I HAVE to be Sunni or Shi'a? Well you are right, that is why I said, forget about it. Because this idea is a human invention. Actually there is only 'sunni' why? Because Muslims are commanded to follow the Quran and the Sunnah, and that is what a sunni is. So just stick to muslim.
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:58 pm
Jin Saga Lord Redtail Rathan Jin Saga Lord Redtail Rathan Jin Saga But Caliphate's only intention were to defend the religion, and realise Allah's command, : Spread the Message of Islam. So the whole being of Caliphate's never touched the 'Road' of Allah unlike the different groups. You see? But he never said who should defend Islam. Nor that a Defender was needed. So it all boils down to: What's the big issue and is there any difference outside of the Caliph issue. And is there a middle ground? Well Allah commanded the People to defend Islam. And it the caliphs weren't just chosen. The nearest companions of the prophet were chosen to be caliph. And I'm afraid I dont really understand your question, the middle ground? So if you would like to clear that Q for me wink I think the whole seperation thing is stupid. Do I HAVE to be Sunni or Shi'a? Well you are right, that is why I said, forget about it. Because this idea is a human invention. Actually there is only 'sunni' why? Because Muslims are commanded to follow the Quran and the Sunnah, and that is what a sunni is. So just stick to muslim. Lol. Tis why I always said I was "Non-Denominational" Christian. Took a bit of grief over it, but I didn't really care. XD
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:15 am
Lord Redtail Rathan Jin Saga Lord Redtail Rathan Jin Saga Lord Redtail Rathan Jin Saga But Caliphate's only intention were to defend the religion, and realise Allah's command, : Spread the Message of Islam. So the whole being of Caliphate's never touched the 'Road' of Allah unlike the different groups. You see? But he never said who should defend Islam. Nor that a Defender was needed. So it all boils down to: What's the big issue and is there any difference outside of the Caliph issue. And is there a middle ground? Well Allah commanded the People to defend Islam. And it the caliphs weren't just chosen. The nearest companions of the prophet were chosen to be caliph. And I'm afraid I dont really understand your question, the middle ground? So if you would like to clear that Q for me wink I think the whole seperation thing is stupid. Do I HAVE to be Sunni or Shi'a? Well you are right, that is why I said, forget about it. Because this idea is a human invention. Actually there is only 'sunni' why? Because Muslims are commanded to follow the Quran and the Sunnah, and that is what a sunni is. So just stick to muslim. Lol. Tis why I always said I was "Non-Denominational" Christian. Took a bit of grief over it, but I didn't really care. XD
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:21 am
Jin Saga Lord Redtail Rathan Jin Saga Lord Redtail Rathan Jin Saga Well Allah commanded the People to defend Islam. And it the caliphs weren't just chosen. The nearest companions of the prophet were chosen to be caliph. And I'm afraid I dont really understand your question, the middle ground? So if you would like to clear that Q for me wink I think the whole seperation thing is stupid. Do I HAVE to be Sunni or Shi'a? Well you are right, that is why I said, forget about it. Because this idea is a human invention. Actually there is only 'sunni' why? Because Muslims are commanded to follow the Quran and the Sunnah, and that is what a sunni is. So just stick to muslim. Lol. Tis why I always said I was "Non-Denominational" Christian. Took a bit of grief over it, but I didn't really care. XD Just everything piling up at once as well as things no longer seeming to make sense or match up.
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:26 am
Lord Redtail Rathan Jin Saga Lord Redtail Rathan Jin Saga Lord Redtail Rathan Jin Saga Well Allah commanded the People to defend Islam. And it the caliphs weren't just chosen. The nearest companions of the prophet were chosen to be caliph. And I'm afraid I dont really understand your question, the middle ground? So if you would like to clear that Q for me wink I think the whole seperation thing is stupid. Do I HAVE to be Sunni or Shi'a? Well you are right, that is why I said, forget about it. Because this idea is a human invention. Actually there is only 'sunni' why? Because Muslims are commanded to follow the Quran and the Sunnah, and that is what a sunni is. So just stick to muslim. Lol. Tis why I always said I was "Non-Denominational" Christian. Took a bit of grief over it, but I didn't really care. XD Just everything piling up at once as well as things no longer seeming to make sense or match up. What kind of things?
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:01 am
Hi!
Regarding Sunni and Shia'a issue,
Sunni are Muslims who faithfully follows Sunnah, al-Hadith from Muhammad PBUH.
While Shia'a are more biased towards Ali R.A., Muhammad PBUH's cousin and son-in-law.
Sunni Muslims consider Ali the fourth and final of the Rashidun (rightly guided Caliphs), while Shi'a Muslims regard Ali as the first Imam and consider him and his descendants the rightful successors to Muhammad, all of which are members of the Ahl al-Bayt, the household of Muhammad. This disagreement split the Ummah (Muslim community) into the Sunni and Shi'a branches
According to this view, Ali as the successor of Muhammad not only ruled over the community in justice, but also interpreted the Sharia Law and its esoteric meaning. Hence he was regarded as being free from error and sin (infallible), and appointed by God by divine decree (nass) through Muhammad.[133] Ali is known as "perfect man" (al-insan al-kamil) similar to Muhammad according to Shia viewpoint.
Some Shia'a extremist, proclaimed that Ali should be the real Prophet, and that Jibril had made a mistake in delivering the wahy to Muhammad PBUH. This of course is a very very wrong fact, Naudzubillah. Allah S.W.T. will never make a mistake.
The Prophet S.A.W. told us,
'I'm leaving behind among you, the Holy book (Quran) and the Sunnah. If you follow these in letter and spirit, you will never be strayed'
-Sunan al-Tarmizi
I hope it is clear that a Muslim should be a Sunni. Of course, Ali r.a. was given his appropriate position, and he was one of the sahabat who Allah had promised heaven. But as a true Muslim, one should place Muhammad PBUH's sunnah above anything.
I hope this answered your question and confusion. Sorry for the long post.
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I also have few things to ask about Christian. If you may know of anyone or a site where I can freely ask about Christian, would you mind to suggest me? Or rather, can you answer them for me yourself? 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:46 am
iKurma Hi!
Regarding Sunni and Shia'a issue,
Sunni are Muslims who faithfully follows Sunnah, al-Hadith from Muhammad PBUH.
While Shia'a are more biased towards Ali R.A., Muhammad PBUH's cousin and son-in-law.
Sunni Muslims consider Ali the fourth and final of the Rashidun (rightly guided Caliphs), while Shi'a Muslims regard Ali as the first Imam and consider him and his descendants the rightful successors to Muhammad, all of which are members of the Ahl al-Bayt, the household of Muhammad. This disagreement split the Ummah (Muslim community) into the Sunni and Shi'a branches
According to this view, Ali as the successor of Muhammad not only ruled over the community in justice, but also interpreted the Sharia Law and its esoteric meaning. Hence he was regarded as being free from error and sin (infallible), and appointed by God by divine decree (nass) through Muhammad.[133] Ali is known as "perfect man" (al-insan al-kamil) similar to Muhammad according to Shia viewpoint.
Some Shia'a extremist, proclaimed that Ali should be the real Prophet, and that Jibril had made a mistake in delivering the wahy to Muhammad PBUH. This of course is a very very wrong fact, Naudzubillah. Allah S.W.T. will never make a mistake.
The Prophet S.A.W. told us,
'I'm leaving behind among you, the Holy book (Quran) and the Sunnah. If you follow these in letter and spirit, you will never be strayed'
-Sunan al-Tarmizi
I hope it is clear that a Muslim should be a Sunni. Of course, Ali r.a. was given his appropriate position, and he was one of the sahabat who Allah had promised heaven. But as a true Muslim, one should place Muhammad PBUH's sunnah above anything.
I hope this answered your question and confusion. Sorry for the long post.--- I also have few things to ask about Christian. If you may know of anyone or a site where I can freely ask about Christian, would you mind to suggest me? Or rather, can you answer them for me yourself? 3nodding Actually, that was perfect. Thank you. XD And I can answer any questions you have. Those I can't, I can find them out for you. One good thing about the Bible is that through all of it's contradictions, all the answers one could have are found there. SO...what's up?
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:23 pm
Lord Redtail Rathan iKurma Hi!
Regarding Sunni and Shia'a issue,
Sunni are Muslims who faithfully follows Sunnah, al-Hadith from Muhammad PBUH.
While Shia'a are more biased towards Ali R.A., Muhammad PBUH's cousin and son-in-law.
Sunni Muslims consider Ali the fourth and final of the Rashidun (rightly guided Caliphs), while Shi'a Muslims regard Ali as the first Imam and consider him and his descendants the rightful successors to Muhammad, all of which are members of the Ahl al-Bayt, the household of Muhammad. This disagreement split the Ummah (Muslim community) into the Sunni and Shi'a branches
According to this view, Ali as the successor of Muhammad not only ruled over the community in justice, but also interpreted the Sharia Law and its esoteric meaning. Hence he was regarded as being free from error and sin (infallible), and appointed by God by divine decree (nass) through Muhammad.[133] Ali is known as "perfect man" (al-insan al-kamil) similar to Muhammad according to Shia viewpoint.
Some Shia'a extremist, proclaimed that Ali should be the real Prophet, and that Jibril had made a mistake in delivering the wahy to Muhammad PBUH. This of course is a very very wrong fact, Naudzubillah. Allah S.W.T. will never make a mistake.
The Prophet S.A.W. told us,
'I'm leaving behind among you, the Holy book (Quran) and the Sunnah. If you follow these in letter and spirit, you will never be strayed'
-Sunan al-Tarmizi
I hope it is clear that a Muslim should be a Sunni. Of course, Ali r.a. was given his appropriate position, and he was one of the sahabat who Allah had promised heaven. But as a true Muslim, one should place Muhammad PBUH's sunnah above anything.
I hope this answered your question and confusion. Sorry for the long post.--- I also have few things to ask about Christian. If you may know of anyone or a site where I can freely ask about Christian, would you mind to suggest me? Or rather, can you answer them for me yourself? 3nodding Actually, that was perfect. Thank you. XD And I can answer any questions you have. Those I can't, I can find them out for you. One good thing about the Bible is that through all of it's contradictions, all the answers one could have are found there. SO...what's up?
Back to the topic, I hears many Christian says, those who put their trust in Jesus, are promised paradise.
My question is, does this mean that a believer should also do good deeds in order to get a place in heaven, aside from putting their absolute trust that Jesus is the savior?
Can a Christian who commit sins (such as murder) enter paradise too? Since it was said that Jesus died on the cross to save us from our sin. Which mean we are sinless now, even if we commit murder?
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:40 am
iKurma Lord Redtail Rathan iKurma Hi!
Regarding Sunni and Shia'a issue,
Sunni are Muslims who faithfully follows Sunnah, al-Hadith from Muhammad PBUH.
While Shia'a are more biased towards Ali R.A., Muhammad PBUH's cousin and son-in-law.
Sunni Muslims consider Ali the fourth and final of the Rashidun (rightly guided Caliphs), while Shi'a Muslims regard Ali as the first Imam and consider him and his descendants the rightful successors to Muhammad, all of which are members of the Ahl al-Bayt, the household of Muhammad. This disagreement split the Ummah (Muslim community) into the Sunni and Shi'a branches
According to this view, Ali as the successor of Muhammad not only ruled over the community in justice, but also interpreted the Sharia Law and its esoteric meaning. Hence he was regarded as being free from error and sin (infallible), and appointed by God by divine decree (nass) through Muhammad.[133] Ali is known as "perfect man" (al-insan al-kamil) similar to Muhammad according to Shia viewpoint.
Some Shia'a extremist, proclaimed that Ali should be the real Prophet, and that Jibril had made a mistake in delivering the wahy to Muhammad PBUH. This of course is a very very wrong fact, Naudzubillah. Allah S.W.T. will never make a mistake.
The Prophet S.A.W. told us,
'I'm leaving behind among you, the Holy book (Quran) and the Sunnah. If you follow these in letter and spirit, you will never be strayed'
-Sunan al-Tarmizi
I hope it is clear that a Muslim should be a Sunni. Of course, Ali r.a. was given his appropriate position, and he was one of the sahabat who Allah had promised heaven. But as a true Muslim, one should place Muhammad PBUH's sunnah above anything.
I hope this answered your question and confusion. Sorry for the long post.--- I also have few things to ask about Christian. If you may know of anyone or a site where I can freely ask about Christian, would you mind to suggest me? Or rather, can you answer them for me yourself? 3nodding Actually, that was perfect. Thank you. XD And I can answer any questions you have. Those I can't, I can find them out for you. One good thing about the Bible is that through all of it's contradictions, all the answers one could have are found there. SO...what's up?
Back to the topic, I hears many Christian says, those who put their trust in Jesus, are promised paradise.
My question is, does this mean that a believer should also do good deeds in order to get a place in heaven, aside from putting their absolute trust that Jesus is the savior?
Can a Christian who commit sins (such as murder) enter paradise too? Since it was said that Jesus died on the cross to save us from our sin. Which mean we are sinless now, even if we commit murder?That is a very common misconception "No one can enter the Kingdom of Heaven but through me." - John 14:6 It's not just putting absolute faith in Jesus Christ, but letting him into your heart. Living your life for God. THe forgiveness of sins is a misunderstood area. Say someone killed 12 people. He was athiest. The day he was to be put to death, he prayed to God and asked for forgiveness, guilty of what he did, ashamed. Then he would be forgiven. Now if he killed someone, never got caught, but still prayed to God with guilt in his heart and ashamed of his actions, he would be forgiven. It's more than asking forgiveness. You must MEAN it. You must WANT to let it not happen again. To stay clean of that sin. One cannot give lip service to Him and expect to be forgiven. That answer your question?
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:38 am
Lord Redtail Rathan iKurma Lord Redtail Rathan iKurma Hi!
Regarding Sunni and Shia'a issue,
Sunni are Muslims who faithfully follows Sunnah, al-Hadith from Muhammad PBUH.
While Shia'a are more biased towards Ali R.A., Muhammad PBUH's cousin and son-in-law.
Sunni Muslims consider Ali the fourth and final of the Rashidun (rightly guided Caliphs), while Shi'a Muslims regard Ali as the first Imam and consider him and his descendants the rightful successors to Muhammad, all of which are members of the Ahl al-Bayt, the household of Muhammad. This disagreement split the Ummah (Muslim community) into the Sunni and Shi'a branches
According to this view, Ali as the successor of Muhammad not only ruled over the community in justice, but also interpreted the Sharia Law and its esoteric meaning. Hence he was regarded as being free from error and sin (infallible), and appointed by God by divine decree (nass) through Muhammad.[133] Ali is known as "perfect man" (al-insan al-kamil) similar to Muhammad according to Shia viewpoint.
Some Shia'a extremist, proclaimed that Ali should be the real Prophet, and that Jibril had made a mistake in delivering the wahy to Muhammad PBUH. This of course is a very very wrong fact, Naudzubillah. Allah S.W.T. will never make a mistake.
The Prophet S.A.W. told us,
'I'm leaving behind among you, the Holy book (Quran) and the Sunnah. If you follow these in letter and spirit, you will never be strayed'
-Sunan al-Tarmizi
I hope it is clear that a Muslim should be a Sunni. Of course, Ali r.a. was given his appropriate position, and he was one of the sahabat who Allah had promised heaven. But as a true Muslim, one should place Muhammad PBUH's sunnah above anything.
I hope this answered your question and confusion. Sorry for the long post.--- I also have few things to ask about Christian. If you may know of anyone or a site where I can freely ask about Christian, would you mind to suggest me? Or rather, can you answer them for me yourself? 3nodding Actually, that was perfect. Thank you. XD And I can answer any questions you have. Those I can't, I can find them out for you. One good thing about the Bible is that through all of it's contradictions, all the answers one could have are found there. SO...what's up?
Back to the topic, I hears many Christian says, those who put their trust in Jesus, are promised paradise.
My question is, does this mean that a believer should also do good deeds in order to get a place in heaven, aside from putting their absolute trust that Jesus is the savior?
Can a Christian who commit sins (such as murder) enter paradise too? Since it was said that Jesus died on the cross to save us from our sin. Which mean we are sinless now, even if we commit murder?That is a very common misconception "No one can enter the Kingdom of Heaven but through me." - John 14:6 It's not just putting absolute faith in Jesus Christ, but letting him into your heart. Living your life for God. THe forgiveness of sins is a misunderstood area. Say someone killed 12 people. He was athiest. The day he was to be put to death, he prayed to God and asked for forgiveness, guilty of what he did, ashamed. Then he would be forgiven. Now if he killed someone, never got caught, but still prayed to God with guilt in his heart and ashamed of his actions, he would be forgiven. It's more than asking forgiveness. You must MEAN it. You must WANT to let it not happen again. To stay clean of that sin. One cannot give lip service to Him and expect to be forgiven. That answer your question? Yes, it does. Why do newborn should be baptized? I hears many Christian says that babies are born sinful as they carries the sin of their parents. The Holy Water acts as a purify or cleansing to the baby. Or was it just a mythology? I mean from what I understand, if Jesus had died for our sin, they why do babies are burden with their parents sin? What if the parents are the believers? Like you said, of course they also normal human and they commit sin, but I find it quite strange that a newborn baby should bear another people sin, when they know nothing of the world. They should be pure and sinless. Please clear this concept for me. : )
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:01 am
iKurma Lord Redtail Rathan iKurma Lord Redtail Rathan iKurma Hi!
Regarding Sunni and Shia'a issue,
Sunni are Muslims who faithfully follows Sunnah, al-Hadith from Muhammad PBUH.
While Shia'a are more biased towards Ali R.A., Muhammad PBUH's cousin and son-in-law.
Sunni Muslims consider Ali the fourth and final of the Rashidun (rightly guided Caliphs), while Shi'a Muslims regard Ali as the first Imam and consider him and his descendants the rightful successors to Muhammad, all of which are members of the Ahl al-Bayt, the household of Muhammad. This disagreement split the Ummah (Muslim community) into the Sunni and Shi'a branches
According to this view, Ali as the successor of Muhammad not only ruled over the community in justice, but also interpreted the Sharia Law and its esoteric meaning. Hence he was regarded as being free from error and sin (infallible), and appointed by God by divine decree (nass) through Muhammad.[133] Ali is known as "perfect man" (al-insan al-kamil) similar to Muhammad according to Shia viewpoint.
Some Shia'a extremist, proclaimed that Ali should be the real Prophet, and that Jibril had made a mistake in delivering the wahy to Muhammad PBUH. This of course is a very very wrong fact, Naudzubillah. Allah S.W.T. will never make a mistake.
The Prophet S.A.W. told us,
'I'm leaving behind among you, the Holy book (Quran) and the Sunnah. If you follow these in letter and spirit, you will never be strayed'
-Sunan al-Tarmizi
I hope it is clear that a Muslim should be a Sunni. Of course, Ali r.a. was given his appropriate position, and he was one of the sahabat who Allah had promised heaven. But as a true Muslim, one should place Muhammad PBUH's sunnah above anything.
I hope this answered your question and confusion. Sorry for the long post.--- I also have few things to ask about Christian. If you may know of anyone or a site where I can freely ask about Christian, would you mind to suggest me? Or rather, can you answer them for me yourself? 3nodding Actually, that was perfect. Thank you. XD And I can answer any questions you have. Those I can't, I can find them out for you. One good thing about the Bible is that through all of it's contradictions, all the answers one could have are found there. SO...what's up?
Back to the topic, I hears many Christian says, those who put their trust in Jesus, are promised paradise.
My question is, does this mean that a believer should also do good deeds in order to get a place in heaven, aside from putting their absolute trust that Jesus is the savior?
Can a Christian who commit sins (such as murder) enter paradise too? Since it was said that Jesus died on the cross to save us from our sin. Which mean we are sinless now, even if we commit murder?That is a very common misconception "No one can enter the Kingdom of Heaven but through me." - John 14:6 It's not just putting absolute faith in Jesus Christ, but letting him into your heart. Living your life for God. THe forgiveness of sins is a misunderstood area. Say someone killed 12 people. He was athiest. The day he was to be put to death, he prayed to God and asked for forgiveness, guilty of what he did, ashamed. Then he would be forgiven. Now if he killed someone, never got caught, but still prayed to God with guilt in his heart and ashamed of his actions, he would be forgiven. It's more than asking forgiveness. You must MEAN it. You must WANT to let it not happen again. To stay clean of that sin. One cannot give lip service to Him and expect to be forgiven. That answer your question? Yes, it does. Why do newborn should be baptized? I hears many Christian says that babies are born sinful as they carries the sin of their parents. The Holy Water acts as a purify or cleansing to the baby. Or was it just a mythology? I mean from what I understand, if Jesus had died for our sin, they why do babies are burden with their parents sin? What if the parents are the believers? Like you said, of course they also normal human and they commit sin, but I find it quite strange that a newborn baby should bear another people sin, when they know nothing of the world. They should be pure and sinless. Please clear this concept for me. : ) The baptism of infants is more up to the denomination. Catholics and Lutherans believe in infant baptism. Baptists do not. It al depends on the denomination. personally, I'd rather my child WANT to be baptized. To KNOW what it means to be baptized. And reproduction in the current method is a sin. Adam and Eve were created by His own hand, as were their children meant to be. So some denominations baptize infants so they become sinless. Other believe children, not knowing right from wrong, are innocent for a time.
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:08 am
Lord Redtail Rathan iKurma Lord Redtail Rathan iKurma Lord Redtail Rathan iKurma Hi!
Regarding Sunni and Shia'a issue,
Sunni are Muslims who faithfully follows Sunnah, al-Hadith from Muhammad PBUH.
While Shia'a are more biased towards Ali R.A., Muhammad PBUH's cousin and son-in-law.
Sunni Muslims consider Ali the fourth and final of the Rashidun (rightly guided Caliphs), while Shi'a Muslims regard Ali as the first Imam and consider him and his descendants the rightful successors to Muhammad, all of which are members of the Ahl al-Bayt, the household of Muhammad. This disagreement split the Ummah (Muslim community) into the Sunni and Shi'a branches
According to this view, Ali as the successor of Muhammad not only ruled over the community in justice, but also interpreted the Sharia Law and its esoteric meaning. Hence he was regarded as being free from error and sin (infallible), and appointed by God by divine decree (nass) through Muhammad.[133] Ali is known as "perfect man" (al-insan al-kamil) similar to Muhammad according to Shia viewpoint.
Some Shia'a extremist, proclaimed that Ali should be the real Prophet, and that Jibril had made a mistake in delivering the wahy to Muhammad PBUH. This of course is a very very wrong fact, Naudzubillah. Allah S.W.T. will never make a mistake.
The Prophet S.A.W. told us,
'I'm leaving behind among you, the Holy book (Quran) and the Sunnah. If you follow these in letter and spirit, you will never be strayed'
-Sunan al-Tarmizi
I hope it is clear that a Muslim should be a Sunni. Of course, Ali r.a. was given his appropriate position, and he was one of the sahabat who Allah had promised heaven. But as a true Muslim, one should place Muhammad PBUH's sunnah above anything.
I hope this answered your question and confusion. Sorry for the long post.--- I also have few things to ask about Christian. If you may know of anyone or a site where I can freely ask about Christian, would you mind to suggest me? Or rather, can you answer them for me yourself? 3nodding Actually, that was perfect. Thank you. XD And I can answer any questions you have. Those I can't, I can find them out for you. One good thing about the Bible is that through all of it's contradictions, all the answers one could have are found there. SO...what's up?
Back to the topic, I hears many Christian says, those who put their trust in Jesus, are promised paradise.
My question is, does this mean that a believer should also do good deeds in order to get a place in heaven, aside from putting their absolute trust that Jesus is the savior?
Can a Christian who commit sins (such as murder) enter paradise too? Since it was said that Jesus died on the cross to save us from our sin. Which mean we are sinless now, even if we commit murder?That is a very common misconception "No one can enter the Kingdom of Heaven but through me." - John 14:6 It's not just putting absolute faith in Jesus Christ, but letting him into your heart. Living your life for God. THe forgiveness of sins is a misunderstood area. Say someone killed 12 people. He was athiest. The day he was to be put to death, he prayed to God and asked for forgiveness, guilty of what he did, ashamed. Then he would be forgiven. Now if he killed someone, never got caught, but still prayed to God with guilt in his heart and ashamed of his actions, he would be forgiven. It's more than asking forgiveness. You must MEAN it. You must WANT to let it not happen again. To stay clean of that sin. One cannot give lip service to Him and expect to be forgiven. That answer your question? Yes, it does. Why do newborn should be baptized? I hears many Christian says that babies are born sinful as they carries the sin of their parents. The Holy Water acts as a purify or cleansing to the baby. Or was it just a mythology? I mean from what I understand, if Jesus had died for our sin, they why do babies are burden with their parents sin? What if the parents are the believers? Like you said, of course they also normal human and they commit sin, but I find it quite strange that a newborn baby should bear another people sin, when they know nothing of the world. They should be pure and sinless. Please clear this concept for me. : ) The baptism of infants is more up to the denomination. Catholics and Lutherans believe in infant baptism. Baptists do not. It al depends on the denomination. personally, I'd rather my child WANT to be baptized. To KNOW what it means to be baptized. And reproduction in the current method is a sin. Adam and Eve were created by His own hand, as were their children meant to be. So some denominations baptize infants so they become sinless. Other believe children, not knowing right from wrong, are innocent for a time. So the children are sinful because they are produced with scientific method? It's not that they want it to be that way, is it? It's the person who made them to be born that way are the actual sinner, is it not? And what if the baby is an illegal child? Is the child also sinful? Does the child carries the sin of his/her parents?
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