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Mephiisto

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:37 pm


I'm only in the 9th grade, and I am literate, obviously, but I'm concerned with the fact that there are people in my class that are not just illiterate in the sense that they don't know grammar rules, but that they can't read at all! I'm dead serious! There are two kids that literally can't read to save their lives. And what's worse than that is that everyone in the class makes fun of them for it, and I'm just absolutely positive that it's doing wonders for their self-esteem (sarcasm hint hint)...
PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 5:25 pm


PrivateJenkins
I'm only in the 9th grade, and I am literate, obviously, but I'm concerned with the fact that there are people in my class that are not just illiterate in the sense that they don't know grammar rules, but that they can't read at all! I'm dead serious! There are two kids that literally can't read to save their lives. And what's worse than that is that everyone in the class makes fun of them for it, and I'm just absolutely positive that it's doing wonders for their self-esteem (sarcasm hint hint)...


That's horrible.
And they're not just very dyslexic or something?
Even though I think it's very dodgy that kids in 9th grade can't read at all, I'd never make fun of them, at least not openly.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:33 pm


I am 18, and I learned to read playing video games. In fact, I stubbornly refused to learn until my dad brought home this wonderful RPG game that, in order to play it, you had to be able to read what the characters were saying. I believe it was on my grandmother's old SNES.

Anyways, it is my theory that because it has become socially acceptable to type in 'chatspeak' almost anywhere online, most of those raised around computers think that it should be acceptable anywhere, as long as people can vaguely understand what you might possibly be trying to say.
To adults, however, computers weren't really the biggest part of their lifestyle when they were getting educations, and so they weren't taught that it's okay to neglect putting the 'y' and the 'o' before the 'u'.
Honestly, I'm ashamed at my generation, and how it's become impressed by how lazy people are. The only time I ever find chatspeak at all acceptable is if one is being charged per letter on, say, a text message sent via a mobile phone.
Otherwise, there's no point to it. You spend more time trying to poke at individual keys, and other people spend more time trying to decode your nearly-foreign language.

I must ask, though, is it only the english language that is suffering at the hand of illiterates like this?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:59 pm


Dreyja
I must ask, though, is it only the english language that is suffering at the hand of illiterates like this?


Highly unlikely. At least I know that Icelandic is suffering horribly from similar illiteracy as English and also from over-use of English slang words. Icelandic young people hardly know their own language but they're nothing spectacular in English either so I don't really know where they stand with that horrendous mix of acronyms, putting two words together into one and endless amounts of OMGs.
It's rather frightening, I am so afraid that Icelandic might be dying as a language sad Maybe not in my lifetime, but maybe in my (future) childrens' lifetimes.

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Etna In Netherland

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:34 pm


I just turned 14 the 30th of December. I get mistaken alot for an elementry student. I have a high girly voice, and I look like I'm 12, so you can imagine. That's the age I actually stopped using "txt tlk" becase I had found it rather annoying, and rude.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:02 pm


I'm a "youngin'" (as my friend calls me) who likes to not reveal her real age. :]

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Kale Dragonheart

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:36 pm


I'm seventeen, though I will be classified as an adult at the end of March I've always been literate since I was in grade six. I do not quite remember how old I was then... Well if you're in seventh grade and you're eleven that would have made me ten. Yeah that's about right.

Anyways, I was as literate as I was able at the age of ten anyways, seeing as I enjoyed paying attention in English but not all of the grammatical principles were taught in grade six, but just the basics. I do know my teacher said I had a grade nine reading level in grade six, which is maybe why I did so well in English and whatever.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:01 pm


I'm 15 and quite literate, and being the literate being I am, I do have friends I can debate with who use perfect english. But as there are, some friends still speak in such 'txttlk' and even as a kid, I was always told to spell things the way they were ment to be spelt, instead of the way kids are doing it now. I personally learned to read at the age of 2, my mom always carrying a book everywhere. She claims she read aloud when she was pregnant with me so it could be that that was what helped. I'm always trying to encourage friends not to speak in 'foreign english' as a friend of mine puts it but it's like a forced habit, and like all habits, it can be hard to kick.

I'm just glad I'm literate.
Unlike many of the crazies I'm forced to live with each and every day of my life.
Sister: Amen.

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linktimelord

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:52 pm


17 turning 18 this july, I feel old and young all in at the same time go me! blaugh
PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:51 pm


Twenty-eight and going grey.

Quite frankly, the rapidly rising level of illiteracy in the U.S. disturbs me deeply.

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daisy4given

PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:53 pm


Glad to see that I'm not the only person here over 20! lol
I'm 25, but I have always been a stickler for correct spelling and grammar, ever since I was a kid. I think it came from that fact that I was raised by my grandparents - my grandma was a high school English teacher, and my grandpa was a university professor in Engineering. I read voraciously from a young age, and was corrected all the time, so I think i was just raised to be highly literate.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:48 pm


Age should not matter when it comes down to grammar, it is the discipline that you give to yourself or others give to you, about dealing with mistakes. If you discipline yourself well enough every time your grammar is wrong then you will become better, but most teens in this era do not care about discipline as much as adults. Therefore, their grammar is worse.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:04 pm


I am 12, and in 7th grade, and I am literate. I am annoyed by leet. ((Text talk = Leet..If you didn't know. ^.^))
PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:05 pm


Drop Dead Etna
I just turned 14 the 30th of December. I get mistaken alot for an elementry student. I have a high girly voice, and I look like I'm 12, so you can imagine. That's the age I actually stopped using "txt tlk" becase I had found it rather annoying, and rude.
Woah, same here eek Except it was Jan. 2. And I'm too tall to be considered below the age of 14. I'm about 6'. I have a rather bad voice.
I do not hate small quatities of 1337 talk and don't mind slightly poor grammar/spelling. Large quantities ae bad for me.

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Holy Smuckwaffen

PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:24 pm


I'm 14, turning 15 this summer.
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