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 Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:06 pm
Captain Verd Juuyonbi_No_Peko_=3 Captain Verd CrabappleRed Juuyonbi_No_Peko_=3 Not Kishi style, but could happen in one of those crazy plot-twists. in the last page, Hidan was still under Kage Mane...so it's gonna be a little harder for him to break out. True. And am I the only one weirded out that Hidan is caught so easily and not able to break free? Last time, Shikamaru had to strain just to make him walk a few steps. Now he making his dance and prance and attack Kakuzu without any problem. Kishimoto probably forgot about it 7_7 ummm, probably Shika was nervous, kinda scared because they were Akatsuki. I doubt he would falter that way at such a crucial time due to nerves. behind that thinking façade he had he was sweating and really worried...anynoe could see that.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:16 am
CrabappleRed Shikalee I don't see Ino committing sepukku for ANY reason. First of all, she isn't even a samurai. Second, Shikamaru and Chouji could DIE IN HER ARMS and she'd probably still live. Despite her stupidity, immaturity, and recklessness, she is a fairly strong girl, and even if she lost all those things, her compassionate father would likely help her through it. I see Lee dying protecting Naruto. Yes, I guess Sakura fits in the package but I think that the attacker would be after Naruto, and Lee would be fighting the attacker. But in order for Lee to die I think Gai would have to, also. He would not let Lee go without one hell of a fight. Perhaps seppuku was the wrong word to use. What I basicly meant as that I would easily see her taking over someone else's body, and then commiting suicide in that body, so that she takes out both herself and her enemy. Very noble, very self sacrificing, and pretty much inevitable with the techniqques she uses. We still havn't seen her use her dad's abilities to remote control people without having to posesse them, after all. And I don't get how you could find Ino stupid, but, whatever. Not an Ino thread. As for Lee dying for naruto, I don't see it. Lee is not attached emotionaly to Naruto the way other characters are. His death for Naruto wouldn't accomplish anything, story-wise. There just isn't the bond there that there is with other people. It won't make for a gripping story twist. Now, Lee dying for Sakura: that makes sense. You have both his promis to her and his love, and it would make for a damned heart-wrenching moment, an echo of the Forest of Death. I do agree though that Gai is likely to die before Lee. One has to wonder if both of Konoha's Green Beasts are doomed. This isn't about the semantics. She has no reason to commit suicide. She is one of the strongest willed characters in the entire novel, and is probably the last person who would be so selfish. She would only commit suicide in protecting others, and that still isn't suicide, it's a kill two birds with one stone type of thing; safe to say she possessed Itachi and SACRIFICED herself for the better of everyone; but even then most people strong enough could either deflect or dodge her attack. Pretty damn unlikely for her to possess someone strong enough to require her own demise. It is not inevitable for the technique she uses, because 1. She can learn new techniques 2. We have not seen everything and 3. Release is a very fast move and she can escape well in time for anything. She could probably give the knife good swing and escaped before impact, even. To call Ino a smart girl is pretty unaware on your part. Stupidity is a measurement of her intelligence; the girl is neither dumb nor smart and don't put words in my mouth because I didn't call her stupid. I just said stupidity. It was your choice as the reader to put a severe negative connotation on the word. I think you're wrong. Lee, while sick, went out to help Naruto save Sasuke. If he had no connection, he wouldn't have risked his life getting out of bed, risked his life fighting Kimimaro, and risked his life actually arguing with Gaara. No connection my a**. His death for Naruto would accomplish just as much, if not more than Sakura because Lee would not only be protecting Naruto, but he'd be protecting the Kyuubi, which would actually be quite the interesting twist. Lee is smarter than he looks; I believe he is one of the few who knows about the Kyuubi.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:18 am
Captain Verd CrabappleRed And I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Sakura would make an interesting Hokage. It just seems like she's the one most likely to still be standing after all the dust setles, and be bitter over how it really shouldn't have been her. Besides, compared to the other ninjas her age, she seems kind of... ahead. Not in terms of rank, but she's an amazing medic, and was the smartest graduating ninja of her class. Even though her Sasori fight was mega lame, you could really see how much more she could do, and how much she could improve. She probably wouldn't be first choice for the position, but neither was Tsunade. I'd agree if Shino, Shikamaru and Sasuke weren't ridiculously smart. Sasuke was ranked number one, Sakura was second to him in their school. But Neji was ranked number one in his academy, and is also considered a "genius." Sakura VS Gaara mentally is also pretty tough to compare. Despite his past actions, Gaara is very wise and rather smart. Sakura, just like Shikamaru, lacks in wisdom. Shino exceeds in both wisdom and intelligence, probably making him the smartest of the rookies. He doesn't get much credit.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:20 am
I think you, Verd, just don't want Yamato to die. A lot of good manga end in tragedy. I think it's VERY possible that all the previous generation dies, leaving rookie and chuunin level behind (Naruto and Iruka's generation).
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:36 pm
Shikalee I think you, Verd, just don't want Yamato to die. A lot of good manga end in tragedy. I think it's VERY possible that all the previous generation dies, leaving rookie and chuunin level behind (Naruto and Iruka's generation). I sort of wish the jounin would all die--it'd advance Kishimoto's overall theme, which seems to be KIDZ POWER!!121 or something. However, the whole comic is very optimistic; therefore I think it's pretty unlikely that he'd kill Yamato, especially given that he has very little background. It's possible, of course--and if Yamato suddenly gets a lot of backstory crammed into one or two chapters, I'll put money on him kicking the bucket. xd
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:26 pm
Shikalee Captain Verd CrabappleRed And I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Sakura would make an interesting Hokage. It just seems like she's the one most likely to still be standing after all the dust setles, and be bitter over how it really shouldn't have been her. Besides, compared to the other ninjas her age, she seems kind of... ahead. Not in terms of rank, but she's an amazing medic, and was the smartest graduating ninja of her class. Even though her Sasori fight was mega lame, you could really see how much more she could do, and how much she could improve. She probably wouldn't be first choice for the position, but neither was Tsunade. I'd agree if Shino, Shikamaru and Sasuke weren't ridiculously smart. Sasuke was ranked number one, Sakura was second to him in their school. But Neji was ranked number one in his academy, and is also considered a "genius." Sakura VS Gaara mentally is also pretty tough to compare. Despite his past actions, Gaara is very wise and rather smart. Sakura, just like Shikamaru, lacks in wisdom. Shino exceeds in both wisdom and intelligence, probably making him the smartest of the rookies. He doesn't get much credit. Sasuke was the best ninja in the class, but Sakura had the best test scores or something like that. Iruka or Kakashi said it once. Anyways, you could see it during the chuunin exams. Sakura could answer all of the test questions herself, whereas Sasuke couldn't get them without cheating. Shino had to cheat as well.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:28 pm
Shikalee I think you, Verd, just don't want Yamato to die. A lot of good manga end in tragedy. I think it's VERY possible that all the previous generation dies, leaving rookie and chuunin level behind (Naruto and Iruka's generation). I'm agreeing with Attila on this one. The manga is really optimistic, and since Yamato's a pretty angst-less, fleshless character so far, it wouldn't really inspire any sympathy from the crowd. Even I wouldn't be touched. Hell, the only reason I like Sasuke is because he was such a brown noser when he was a kid.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:51 am
Captain Verd CrabappleRed Juuyonbi_No_Peko_=3 Not Kishi style, but could happen in one of those crazy plot-twists. in the last page, Hidan was still under Kage Mane...so it's gonna be a little harder for him to break out. True. And am I the only one weirded out that Hidan is caught so easily and not able to break free? Last time, Shikamaru had to strain just to make him walk a few steps. Now he making his dance and prance and attack Kakuzu without any problem. Kishimoto probably forgot about it 7_7 Well, while the leaf ninjas have been resting, the Akatsuki have been draining themselves sealing the two demons in succession. They're probably not fresh for a fight like the leaf ninajs are.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:44 am
liz_bliz Captain Verd CrabappleRed Juuyonbi_No_Peko_=3 Not Kishi style, but could happen in one of those crazy plot-twists. in the last page, Hidan was still under Kage Mane...so it's gonna be a little harder for him to break out. True. And am I the only one weirded out that Hidan is caught so easily and not able to break free? Last time, Shikamaru had to strain just to make him walk a few steps. Now he making his dance and prance and attack Kakuzu without any problem. Kishimoto probably forgot about it 7_7 Well, while the leaf ninjas have been resting, the Akatsuki have been draining themselves sealing the two demons in succession. They're probably not fresh for a fight like the leaf ninajs are. Isnt that like training for them? I mean, all they do is keep sending Chakra so the Ritual can be completed.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:50 pm
I think Shino or Hinata will die. eek
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:20 pm
Captain Verd Juuyonbi_No_Peko_=3 Captain Verd CrabappleRed Juuyonbi_No_Peko_=3 Not Kishi style, but could happen in one of those crazy plot-twists. in the last page, Hidan was still under Kage Mane...so it's gonna be a little harder for him to break out. True. And am I the only one weirded out that Hidan is caught so easily and not able to break free? Last time, Shikamaru had to strain just to make him walk a few steps. Now he making his dance and prance and attack Kakuzu without any problem. Kishimoto probably forgot about it 7_7 ummm, probably Shika was nervous, kinda scared because they were Akatsuki. I doubt he would falter that way at such a crucial time due to nerves. He has done it in the past.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:21 pm
attilathefun Shikalee I think you, Verd, just don't want Yamato to die. A lot of good manga end in tragedy. I think it's VERY possible that all the previous generation dies, leaving rookie and chuunin level behind (Naruto and Iruka's generation). I sort of wish the jounin would all die--it'd advance Kishimoto's overall theme, which seems to be KIDZ POWER!!121 or something. However, the whole comic is very optimistic; therefore I think it's pretty unlikely that he'd kill Yamato, especially given that he has very little background. It's possible, of course--and if Yamato suddenly gets a lot of backstory crammed into one or two chapters, I'll put money on him kicking the bucket. xd Haha. It would be interesting. Not really. Overall it's very depressing. All the characters have serious burdens or issues for the most part. It's only optimistic because fans don't take it seriously, or haven't experienced for themselves what it feels like...
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:23 pm
Captain Verd Shikalee Captain Verd CrabappleRed And I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Sakura would make an interesting Hokage. It just seems like she's the one most likely to still be standing after all the dust setles, and be bitter over how it really shouldn't have been her. Besides, compared to the other ninjas her age, she seems kind of... ahead. Not in terms of rank, but she's an amazing medic, and was the smartest graduating ninja of her class. Even though her Sasori fight was mega lame, you could really see how much more she could do, and how much she could improve. She probably wouldn't be first choice for the position, but neither was Tsunade. I'd agree if Shino, Shikamaru and Sasuke weren't ridiculously smart. Sasuke was ranked number one, Sakura was second to him in their school. But Neji was ranked number one in his academy, and is also considered a "genius." Sakura VS Gaara mentally is also pretty tough to compare. Despite his past actions, Gaara is very wise and rather smart. Sakura, just like Shikamaru, lacks in wisdom. Shino exceeds in both wisdom and intelligence, probably making him the smartest of the rookies. He doesn't get much credit. Sasuke was the best ninja in the class, but Sakura had the best test scores or something like that. Iruka or Kakashi said it once. Anyways, you could see it during the chuunin exams. Sakura could answer all of the test questions herself, whereas Sasuke couldn't get them without cheating. Shino had to cheat as well. Wrong. He beat Sakura. Sakura did get the answers for the quiz in the chuunin exam. But she did not beat him in the academy graduation. Sasuke's behavior and immediate motivation to study dramatically declined when he graduated. As an attempt to impress him, Sakura kept up her studious habits. Your one instance of proof, I believe, is hardly enough to draw a conclusive answer. If you can find this quote, then that would be concrete proof. Shino is smart; smart enough to know that cheating is easier than doing the work. He chose the logical answer. That did not mean he could not do the problems.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:26 pm
Captain Verd Shikalee I think you, Verd, just don't want Yamato to die. A lot of good manga end in tragedy. I think it's VERY possible that all the previous generation dies, leaving rookie and chuunin level behind (Naruto and Iruka's generation). I'm agreeing with Attila on this one. The manga is really optimistic, and since Yamato's a pretty angst-less, fleshless character so far, it wouldn't really inspire any sympathy from the crowd. Even I wouldn't be touched. Hell, the only reason I like Sasuke is because he was such a brown noser when he was a kid. Like I just said, overall, the manga is actually rather depressing. The anime is optimism on crack. The manga has gone really downhill since the chuunin exams and even before then there was tragedy with Lee and Neji's horrible past and Gaara's tales of his assassination and Naruto's horrible fate as well as Zabuza and Haku dying with Sasuke's near death experience along with the tragedy with Inari's family. I will challenge you to post all the happy memories you can and I guarantee I can post more negative ones.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:30 pm
Shikalee Captain Verd Shikalee Captain Verd CrabappleRed And I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Sakura would make an interesting Hokage. It just seems like she's the one most likely to still be standing after all the dust setles, and be bitter over how it really shouldn't have been her. Besides, compared to the other ninjas her age, she seems kind of... ahead. Not in terms of rank, but she's an amazing medic, and was the smartest graduating ninja of her class. Even though her Sasori fight was mega lame, you could really see how much more she could do, and how much she could improve. She probably wouldn't be first choice for the position, but neither was Tsunade. I'd agree if Shino, Shikamaru and Sasuke weren't ridiculously smart. Sasuke was ranked number one, Sakura was second to him in their school. But Neji was ranked number one in his academy, and is also considered a "genius." Sakura VS Gaara mentally is also pretty tough to compare. Despite his past actions, Gaara is very wise and rather smart. Sakura, just like Shikamaru, lacks in wisdom. Shino exceeds in both wisdom and intelligence, probably making him the smartest of the rookies. He doesn't get much credit. Sasuke was the best ninja in the class, but Sakura had the best test scores or something like that. Iruka or Kakashi said it once. Anyways, you could see it during the chuunin exams. Sakura could answer all of the test questions herself, whereas Sasuke couldn't get them without cheating. Shino had to cheat as well. Wrong. He beat Sakura. Sakura did get the answers for the quiz in the chuunin exam. But she did not beat him in the academy graduation. Sasuke's behavior and immediate motivation to study dramatically declined when he graduated. As an attempt to impress him, Sakura kept up her studious habits. Your one instance of proof, I believe, is hardly enough to draw a conclusive answer. If you can find this quote, then that would be concrete proof. Shino is smart; smart enough to know that cheating is easier than doing the work. He chose the logical answer. That did not mean he could not do the problems. I didn't say she beat Sasuke. If you notice, I said Sasuke was the best ninja in the class, but Sakura was the smartest. Sasuke has more skills than she does, so he graduates ahead of her. But in terms of the math and calculations, Sakura beats Sasuke. That's why she has better chakra control than he does. Sasuke's behavoir/habits/motivation remained the same. His goal wasn't to graduate, but to kill Itachi. It might have seemed that way because the enemies became harder, but Sasuke had the same motivation when he graduated that he did when he was still in school. Your assumptions, I think, are even less conclusive.
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