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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:25 pm
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Angelic Celestia Some of the guys from Ep 4 sound the same, but definetely are not Jango. And, let's not forget Davin Felth, and the guy that bumped his head on the door in the control room. 3nodding And, I'd imagine that by Ep 4, most of the Jango clones were dead. Jango bumped his head on Slave I in Ep. II, in a deliberate reference to what may be his clone.
Ichi-maou When Han And Luke steal the Stormtrooper's armour in ANH the troopers must have been different because there was no shock expressed in the following scenes. Either that, or the fact that some stormtroopers were clones was common knowledge, since they did evolve from the clone troopers.
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:00 pm
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 11:27 pm
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Durza the Shade Angelic Celestia Some of the guys from Ep 4 sound the same, but definetely are not Jango. And, let's not forget Davin Felth, and the guy that bumped his head on the door in the control room. 3nodding And, I'd imagine that by Ep 4, most of the Jango clones were dead. Jango bumped his head on Slave I in Ep. II, in a deliberate reference to what may be his clone. Ichi-maou When Han And Luke steal the Stormtrooper's armour in ANH the troopers must have been different because there was no shock expressed in the following scenes. Either that, or the fact that some stormtroopers were clones was common knowledge, since they did evolve from the clone troopers. True.
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:48 am
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Nelowulf Im posting my blah! I am going to kill the most unimaginative person in the entire series! Besides phil the janitor... I hate John Williams! Yes, i know he composed the music. Yes i know you hate me now. But hear my madness: He stole pieces of music and claimed them as his own. Listen to the Escape from Echo base theme, then to Gustav Holst's Mars, the Bringer of War. You will hear the same undertones. The music is different, but you will be very reminded of it! In some parts it is the same when played side by side! Also, just to prove past one point, the credenzo on the closing theme is quite alot like Tchaikovsky's 1812 overture. the parts right before teh increased speed are of the same notes, and same lengths. And, the whole theme from attack on the second death star, try listening to Francesca Da Rimini! parts are equal there too! now my peace is done... from teh original triology... as for this new one... there isn't enough space in the world to describe flaws....
In my responce, perhaps Williams was inspired by those composers, and didnt neccesarilly steal the music, but made it his own. Besides, there are so many peices of music out there, perhaps he could have "coppied" without knowing? There are only so many notes and combinations that are pleasing to the ear...I wonder if you have any problems with Williams other works in Indiana Jones or Harry Potter??
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:53 am
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:19 pm
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Tazer49 Nelowulf Im posting my blah! I am going to kill the most unimaginative person in the entire series! Besides phil the janitor... I hate John Williams! Yes, i know he composed the music. Yes i know you hate me now. But hear my madness: He stole pieces of music and claimed them as his own. Listen to the Escape from Echo base theme, then to Gustav Holst's Mars, the Bringer of War. You will hear the same undertones. The music is different, but you will be very reminded of it! In some parts it is the same when played side by side! Also, just to prove past one point, the credenzo on the closing theme is quite alot like Tchaikovsky's 1812 overture. the parts right before teh increased speed are of the same notes, and same lengths. And, the whole theme from attack on the second death star, try listening to Francesca Da Rimini! parts are equal there too! now my peace is done... from teh original triology... as for this new one... there isn't enough space in the world to describe flaws.... In my responce, perhaps Williams was inspired by those composers, and didnt neccesarilly steal the music, but made it his own. Besides, there are so many peices of music out there, perhaps he could have "coppied" without knowing? There are only so many notes and combinations that are pleasing to the ear...I wonder if you have any problems with Williams other works in Indiana Jones or Harry Potter??
Is this a Harry Potter (actually, Williams wrote about 11 seconds of HP music into the ROTS soundtrack) or IJ guild? NO.
And I don't mind inspiriation. But listen to "Titan", by .... Mendellson, i believe (its been a while). You'll definately hear the same last 30 seconds are the same, and about the last 1:30 is very similar.
There is a difference between stealing, copying, and inspired by.
Like Kris Badelt, the man who wrote the POTC soundtrack, copied several undertones from Williams.
But the thing is this: You can be inspired by people. But when you play tracks side by side, and synchronise them, and even the notes and timing are EXACTLY the same, for more than just a second or two, that's when we start worrying.
Trust me, I have much more evidence. I have nothing against the soundtrack. I have other reasons to hate williams, but its more of a personal thing, which has no place in reasoned arguement.
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:33 am
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Nelowulf Tazer49 Nelowulf Im posting my blah! I am going to kill the most unimaginative person in the entire series! Besides phil the janitor... I hate John Williams! Yes, i know he composed the music. Yes i know you hate me now. But hear my madness: He stole pieces of music and claimed them as his own. Listen to the Escape from Echo base theme, then to Gustav Holst's Mars, the Bringer of War. You will hear the same undertones. The music is different, but you will be very reminded of it! In some parts it is the same when played side by side! Also, just to prove past one point, the credenzo on the closing theme is quite alot like Tchaikovsky's 1812 overture. the parts right before teh increased speed are of the same notes, and same lengths. And, the whole theme from attack on the second death star, try listening to Francesca Da Rimini! parts are equal there too! now my peace is done... from teh original triology... as for this new one... there isn't enough space in the world to describe flaws.... In my responce, perhaps Williams was inspired by those composers, and didnt neccesarilly steal the music, but made it his own. Besides, there are so many peices of music out there, perhaps he could have "coppied" without knowing? There are only so many notes and combinations that are pleasing to the ear...I wonder if you have any problems with Williams other works in Indiana Jones or Harry Potter?? Is this a Harry Potter (actually, Williams wrote about 11 seconds of HP music into the ROTS soundtrack) or IJ guild? NO. And I don't mind inspiriation. But listen to "Titan", by .... Mendellson, i believe (its been a while). You'll definately hear the same last 30 seconds are the same, and about the last 1:30 is very similar. There is a difference between stealing, copying, and inspired by. Like Kris Badelt, the man who wrote the POTC soundtrack, copied several undertones from Williams. But the thing is this: You can be inspired by people. But when you play tracks side by side, and synchronise them, and even the notes and timing are EXACTLY the same, for more than just a second or two, that's when we start worrying. Trust me, I have much more evidence. I have nothing against the soundtrack. I have other reasons to hate williams, but its more of a personal thing, which has no place in reasoned arguement.
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:31 pm
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:39 am
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:17 pm
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:45 pm
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:22 am
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