The Hangar

[Sol Walker]

Nelo speaks the truth.  

[Nelowulf]

Plus, you have to factor in the fact that many of the pilots during ANH were not fully trained in Red Squadron. Gold Squadron was the "old fart" squadron, as I call them, but they were in Y-wings, and had been doing trench runs, so they couldn't maneuver well enough, and had difficulty trying to keep task.

Gold squadron was extinguished mostly in the trench, even though ANH does not show it so much. DV had a big advantage, shooting a slow fighter and being in a fighter devoted to dogfighting, rather than a multi-role platform, gave the Trench run a serious death casualty.

Some of Red squadron got unlucky over the DS, but once again, the trench squeezed half of them out too.  

[Sol Walker]

well at least one gold pilot survived.  

[Nelowulf]

1.... which really is the case prover that the Y-wing had grown outdated. After twenty years, the Y-wing was outdated.

Though even 35 years later, the Xwing still reigns supreme, simply because Luke doesn't like the E-wing, even if the E-wing can fly circles around teh Xwing and has about the same firepower.

That still frizzles me.  

[Sol Walker]

hey, luke is an old fasioned kinda guy.  

[Nelowulf]

but the rest of the Republic, just throwing a superior product away? Hey, let the jedi do as he pleases, but don't make everyone else pay for one mere superpilot's decision to not ditch a droid who isn't compatable with a combat vehicle.

I mean, how would you feel, if upgrades were denied because someone else wants to keep his favorite little droid with him, while you could use the upgrade instead?

One guy shouldn't make the entire fleet suffer. Maybe a squadron or two, but the entire fleet? come on..  

[Sol Walker]

You make a good point. but it doesn't change the fact that the republic's starfighter development program stagnated horribly in those days.  

[Nelowulf]

what? New Republic era fighter production stagnated?

Nevermind... I wonder what happened to the Naboo fighters, which were effective somwhat...  

[AFK Masturbating]

On that note, what fighters are available on both sides, circa Shards timeline? Also, wasn't Wedge also all about the Xs for Rogue Squadron?  

[Nelowulf]

Everything available at Thrawns time. I dunno about other New Republic fighters, but the list that is available is:

Awing
Bwing
Ewing
Vwing
Xwing
Ywing
our little NJO starfighter

and the imperials have

A-9 Vigilances
I-7 Howlrunners
Scimitar Assult bomber
Skipray blastboats
Tie Fighters
Tie bomber
Tie Interceptors
Some Tie Advanced
Few Tie Defenders  

[Sol Walker]

No K-wing bombers?  

[Nelowulf]

Cale Darksun

No K-wing bombers?

those fall under the catagory of "New Republic fighters that I dont' know much about", and so, I did not list them.

I also dont know about H or J wings either. Mostly when they were released, rather than what they are.

I'm assuming that Y-wings by this time are extinct for a battle, and only used as patrol and planetary defense. But to give more options, i added them.  

[Sol Walker]

If you want I can dig up some info on them.  

[Nelowulf]

Put the info in the Outlaw's guide to teh Galaxy. Make life easier, and enhance the book.  

[Sol Walker]

when does the Black fleet crisis occur in relation to SOTF?