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[Makako-ma]

Sergeant Bloodhound

Makako-ma

Daikagiri

Hmmm....As for the yin or yang for Genjutsu, I'll discuss it with the mods. Though Genjutsu falls under a broad category according to the wikia, it does coincide with other elements. SO if done right, it doesn't quite fall under Yin completely. So it's possible we may keep it as is. Other yin releases and other yang releases that are very specific to the release are going to need to stay restricted.

For medical, we've decided on it taking it's whole place because it is pretty much something you note that people spend their whole lives doing so. So while it does take up one of three slots, it's really only one of three rather than two or the entire thing as it would probably be in any normal sense. I mean, yes, we are all "special cases" in each of our worlds, but to let Medical become some sub-category would be dangerously understating the ability.

As for elemental natures like blaze and black lightning. black lightning is something that the originals can teach if I remember right....Blaze, is something that requires the mangekyou to do according to the wikia, if you can steal someone's eye and they have it...It's yours. Anything teachable is teachable, but only by a registered user, we have those rules out there. If it requires the blood, it's a different story.

Hell, my character Inari was going to learn the gates from Mephis' maito sai until she went rogue and crazy in the corruption. razz I took the new spot since she can't use it anymore, at the same time i found out about the 7 breathes. Sort of found the breathes more interesting but the breathes sound more like it's specific to the body than chakra gates.

i'm looking into fillers for Naruto for anything we've missed to toss out into the guild as well. Other changes may occur, and other things may be re-evaluated. But as far as things go for what's already been discussed, we've had long discussions about it.

Plus, ya gotta remember, we're here for fun...try to have fun with things, Gaia shouldn't be something to stress over. Something I feel gets forgotten is that we mods may try our hardest to get some things to work out, but we are doing this out of choice in our daily lives with other things going on.

illusions are yin

things that come to life are yang

growth is yang

corrosion is yin

What you should probably put the restriction on is the type of chakra shaping. Everyone should be capable of yin and yang but there is some technique that has to be practiced for specific applications.

Medical ninjutsu = variations on low level skills for the most part

genjutsu = yin release that occasionally has some freaks that can do something weird with it that could be called yang

But also I need to do something about my character. I can't really just continue on guessing what else I have to get rid of. I've literally been forced to discard most of my characters planned abilities or what she has. I'm also in a weird spot regarding the corruption since many of the effects make it a risk my character really shouldn't be taking ever due to her position.

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Not to sound pushy but ive got someone waiting on me to post, I've lost much of what I had to gain from doing much of what I've done already, and I'm getting the feeling I need my character is going to be a useless cripple soon.. the last part isn't because of rule changes though that's more because there isn't much else she can do for the time being.

I don't think that's right, with the nature of Yin and Yang. Yang is the matter, the stuff you create from. Yin is the instruction manuel, defining how things should work. Like how Yang is the Body, Yin is the mind which tells the body how it should move, how is should pump blood.

There's no contradiction here.

yang is matter, yang is life, yang is many things.

yin is the void from which the matter is born, yang is the body that is formed from the matter.

Genjutsu is yang release. It creates an illusion from nothing. To create from nothing is the specific application the Naruto universe attributes to yin.

Yin creates from nothing
Yang breathes life into something

An illusion is something being created out of nothingness by default, so are basic clones.

More advanced clones have substance, substance is a yang thing in general. So there is a yang element there probably

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btw Naruto might not use the correct or normal form of yin and yang but the following is directly from the show

Yin creates from nothing
Yang breathes life into something
genjutsu is a form of yin release  

[Sergeant Bloodhound]

Makako-ma

Sergeant Bloodhound

Makako-ma

Daikagiri

Hmmm....As for the yin or yang for Genjutsu, I'll discuss it with the mods. Though Genjutsu falls under a broad category according to the wikia, it does coincide with other elements. SO if done right, it doesn't quite fall under Yin completely. So it's possible we may keep it as is. Other yin releases and other yang releases that are very specific to the release are going to need to stay restricted.

For medical, we've decided on it taking it's whole place because it is pretty much something you note that people spend their whole lives doing so. So while it does take up one of three slots, it's really only one of three rather than two or the entire thing as it would probably be in any normal sense. I mean, yes, we are all "special cases" in each of our worlds, but to let Medical become some sub-category would be dangerously understating the ability.

As for elemental natures like blaze and black lightning. black lightning is something that the originals can teach if I remember right....Blaze, is something that requires the mangekyou to do according to the wikia, if you can steal someone's eye and they have it...It's yours. Anything teachable is teachable, but only by a registered user, we have those rules out there. If it requires the blood, it's a different story.

Hell, my character Inari was going to learn the gates from Mephis' maito sai until she went rogue and crazy in the corruption. razz I took the new spot since she can't use it anymore, at the same time i found out about the 7 breathes. Sort of found the breathes more interesting but the breathes sound more like it's specific to the body than chakra gates.

i'm looking into fillers for Naruto for anything we've missed to toss out into the guild as well. Other changes may occur, and other things may be re-evaluated. But as far as things go for what's already been discussed, we've had long discussions about it.

Plus, ya gotta remember, we're here for fun...try to have fun with things, Gaia shouldn't be something to stress over. Something I feel gets forgotten is that we mods may try our hardest to get some things to work out, but we are doing this out of choice in our daily lives with other things going on.

illusions are yin

things that come to life are yang

growth is yang

corrosion is yin

What you should probably put the restriction on is the type of chakra shaping. Everyone should be capable of yin and yang but there is some technique that has to be practiced for specific applications.

Medical ninjutsu = variations on low level skills for the most part

genjutsu = yin release that occasionally has some freaks that can do something weird with it that could be called yang

But also I need to do something about my character. I can't really just continue on guessing what else I have to get rid of. I've literally been forced to discard most of my characters planned abilities or what she has. I'm also in a weird spot regarding the corruption since many of the effects make it a risk my character really shouldn't be taking ever due to her position.

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Not to sound pushy but ive got someone waiting on me to post, I've lost much of what I had to gain from doing much of what I've done already, and I'm getting the feeling I need my character is going to be a useless cripple soon.. the last part isn't because of rule changes though that's more because there isn't much else she can do for the time being.

I don't think that's right, with the nature of Yin and Yang. Yang is the matter, the stuff you create from. Yin is the instruction manuel, defining how things should work. Like how Yang is the Body, Yin is the mind which tells the body how it should move, how is should pump blood.

There's no contradiction here.

yang is matter, yang is life, yang is many things.

yin is the void from which the matter is born, yang is the body that is formed from the matter.

Genjutsu is yang release. It creates an illusion from nothing. To create from nothing is the specific application the Naruto universe attributes to yin.

Yin creates from nothing
Yang breathes life into something

An illusion is something being created out of nothingness by default, so are basic clones.

More advanced clones have substance, substance is a yang thing in general. So there is a yang element there probably

edit

btw Naruto might not use the correct or normal form of yin and yang but the following is directly from the show

Yin creates from nothing
Yang breathes life into something
genjutsu is a form of yin release

Yeah, I'm just confused by calling Yin Chakra corrosive.  

[Makako-ma]

Sergeant Bloodhound

Makako-ma

Sergeant Bloodhound

Makako-ma

Daikagiri

Hmmm....As for the yin or yang for Genjutsu, I'll discuss it with the mods. Though Genjutsu falls under a broad category according to the wikia, it does coincide with other elements. SO if done right, it doesn't quite fall under Yin completely. So it's possible we may keep it as is. Other yin releases and other yang releases that are very specific to the release are going to need to stay restricted.

For medical, we've decided on it taking it's whole place because it is pretty much something you note that people spend their whole lives doing so. So while it does take up one of three slots, it's really only one of three rather than two or the entire thing as it would probably be in any normal sense. I mean, yes, we are all "special cases" in each of our worlds, but to let Medical become some sub-category would be dangerously understating the ability.

As for elemental natures like blaze and black lightning. black lightning is something that the originals can teach if I remember right....Blaze, is something that requires the mangekyou to do according to the wikia, if you can steal someone's eye and they have it...It's yours. Anything teachable is teachable, but only by a registered user, we have those rules out there. If it requires the blood, it's a different story.

Hell, my character Inari was going to learn the gates from Mephis' maito sai until she went rogue and crazy in the corruption. razz I took the new spot since she can't use it anymore, at the same time i found out about the 7 breathes. Sort of found the breathes more interesting but the breathes sound more like it's specific to the body than chakra gates.

i'm looking into fillers for Naruto for anything we've missed to toss out into the guild as well. Other changes may occur, and other things may be re-evaluated. But as far as things go for what's already been discussed, we've had long discussions about it.

Plus, ya gotta remember, we're here for fun...try to have fun with things, Gaia shouldn't be something to stress over. Something I feel gets forgotten is that we mods may try our hardest to get some things to work out, but we are doing this out of choice in our daily lives with other things going on.

illusions are yin

things that come to life are yang

growth is yang

corrosion is yin

What you should probably put the restriction on is the type of chakra shaping. Everyone should be capable of yin and yang but there is some technique that has to be practiced for specific applications.

Medical ninjutsu = variations on low level skills for the most part

genjutsu = yin release that occasionally has some freaks that can do something weird with it that could be called yang

But also I need to do something about my character. I can't really just continue on guessing what else I have to get rid of. I've literally been forced to discard most of my characters planned abilities or what she has. I'm also in a weird spot regarding the corruption since many of the effects make it a risk my character really shouldn't be taking ever due to her position.

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Not to sound pushy but ive got someone waiting on me to post, I've lost much of what I had to gain from doing much of what I've done already, and I'm getting the feeling I need my character is going to be a useless cripple soon.. the last part isn't because of rule changes though that's more because there isn't much else she can do for the time being.

I don't think that's right, with the nature of Yin and Yang. Yang is the matter, the stuff you create from. Yin is the instruction manuel, defining how things should work. Like how Yang is the Body, Yin is the mind which tells the body how it should move, how is should pump blood.

There's no contradiction here.

yang is matter, yang is life, yang is many things.

yin is the void from which the matter is born, yang is the body that is formed from the matter.

Genjutsu is yang release. It creates an illusion from nothing. To create from nothing is the specific application the Naruto universe attributes to yin.

Yin creates from nothing
Yang breathes life into something

An illusion is something being created out of nothingness by default, so are basic clones.

More advanced clones have substance, substance is a yang thing in general. So there is a yang element there probably

edit

btw Naruto might not use the correct or normal form of yin and yang but the following is directly from the show

Yin creates from nothing
Yang breathes life into something
genjutsu is a form of yin release

Yeah, I'm just confused by calling Yin Chakra corrosive.

the original yin yang was confusing lol

yang radiates and is hot and it.. forms the sky?

yin is cold and voidlike and forms the earth

maybe I got it backwards but its very weird looking regardless because its from the perspective of the ancient chinese  

[Tentaigo]

 

[Makako-ma]

Mephis Inferni

(Makako, you are the party leader. Roll like you're supposed to.)

Not obligated to roll according to anything I've read in this particular zone.

Can't afford terribly uncertain terms

According to the first post of the thread she can turn back if she isn't going to play. She just needed to meet the Shinigami but if she does go back a lot less will happen and life will be more boring. At this point I'd just bet her life if all my jonin weren't mia all the time.  

[Mephis Inferni]

Makako-ma

Mephis Inferni

(Makako, you are the party leader. Roll like you're supposed to.)

Not obligated to roll according to anything I've read in this particular zone.

Can't afford terribly uncertain terms

According to the first post of the thread she can turn back if she isn't going to play. She just needed to meet the Shinigami but if she does go back a lot less will happen and life will be more boring. At this point I'd just bet her life if all my jonin weren't mia all the time.

When you enter a zone in the Corruption, with the exception of specifically noted RP zones (Which the Grim Casino is NOT one of) you roll IMMEDIATELY upon entrance. You have now posted twice and are refusing to comply further.

You have two options, either you post a roll or I am taking an arm AND a leg from your character.  

[Makako-ma]

Mephis Inferni

Makako-ma

Mephis Inferni

(Makako, you are the party leader. Roll like you're supposed to.)

Not obligated to roll according to anything I've read in this particular zone.

Can't afford terribly uncertain terms

According to the first post of the thread she can turn back if she isn't going to play. She just needed to meet the Shinigami but if she does go back a lot less will happen and life will be more boring. At this point I'd just bet her life if all my jonin weren't mia all the time.

When you enter a zone in the Corruption, with the exception of specifically noted RP zones (Which the Grim Casino is NOT one of) you roll IMMEDIATELY upon entrance. You have now posted twice and are refusing to comply further.

You have two options, either you post a roll or I am taking an arm AND a leg from your character.

I've searched 3 threads for this and have talked to reign about it. I've seen no such rule forcing this in this situation and I can't really roll if its possible to just leave for the price of 2 limbs. Like I said, obligations.

If you are going to demand an arm and a leg then just take an arm and a leg. I just wanted to roleplay.

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Sayori had a proposition for a gambler
I've yet to see anything forcing a roll
If you insist then go ahead and take an arm and a leg, honestly it will just leave me in the same situation assuming Sayori makes it out alive. The information she's gotten by visiting could be called worth it.

Until the title of tsuchikage can be safely passed on from the in character perspective she will not agree to certain things.

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also sayori has already made it kindof obvious what she is and isn't willing to bet and may be rejected based off this. I'm in no hurry to lose limbs. But do what you want  

[Mephis Inferni]

Makako-ma

Here's the thing. It's all well and good talking to R31ng about things, but when a crew member that is in charge of the event zone you are in tells you to roll...you do it without giving them a major hassle, unlike what you're currently giving me right now.


And just so you know, because you're so on the hunt for actual rules that the implied ones just get overlooked...here's the roll table for the Grim Casino.

1-3: Play for Your life
4-20:If you lose, you lose a number of jutsu points equal to your roll
21-30: Wager your arm
31-40: Wager your eye
41-50: Wager Your leg
51-65: Mod decides what you must wager
66-80: Wager all of your food and water
81-100: The reaper is absent. pass through uneventfully.

If you would have rolled the moment you entered the thread, there might not have been a Reaper. That is why you always roll when you enter the thread, regardless of whether or not you see it laid down as an actual rule. Read the threads you're entering, the first post will give you all of the information you need.

Now this is your last chance to roll. Taking two limbs will be your penalty if you refuse, you will not get to play for the chance to keep them. However, if you roll, you may play to keep whatever wager you bring up. I also need your roll for your team's wager...leader's roll determines the wager for everyone in the party and they all play separately.

I've seen you argue with the mods back and forth, so I just want to make sure this is clear. I am not going to argue with you further. I have spoken, and I know R31ng and the other crew members will back me up on this. We don't have the desire to continue arguing after we make a decision, we have too much left to do around here.  

[Makako-ma]

Mephis Inferni

Makako-ma

Here's the thing. It's all well and good talking to R31ng about things, but when a crew member that is in charge of the event zone you are in tells you to roll...you do it without giving them a major hassle, unlike what you're currently giving me right now.


And just so you know, because you're so on the hunt for actual rules that the implied ones just get overlooked...here's the roll table for the Grim Casino.

1-3: Play for Your life
4-20:If you lose, you lose a number of jutsu points equal to your roll
21-30: Wager your arm
31-40: Wager your eye
41-50: Wager Your leg
51-65: Mod decides what you must wager
66-80: Wager all of your food and water
81-100: The reaper is absent. pass through uneventfully.

If you would have rolled the moment you entered the thread, there might not have been a Reaper. That is why you always roll when you enter the thread, regardless of whether or not you see it laid down as an actual rule. Read the threads you're entering, the first post will give you all of the information you need.

Now this is your last chance to roll. Taking two limbs will be your penalty if you refuse, you will not get to play for the chance to keep them. However, if you roll, you may play to keep whatever wager you bring up. I also need your roll for your team's wager...leader's roll determines the wager for everyone in the party and they all play separately.

I've seen you argue with the mods back and forth, so I just want to make sure this is clear. I am not going to argue with you further. I have spoken, and I know R31ng and the other crew members will back me up on this. We don't have the desire to continue arguing after we make a decision, we have too much left to do around here.

I'm not giving you a hassle. The rules didn't say I had to roll. You argued that I did and gave me two options. I chose based off my character.

You've seen me go back and forth with mods because there was something strange about their response. One mod demanded that I describe the range of sound. I'm not even sure its really possible to answer that.

I complied with the rules and I complied with you. I was under the impression that one could leave if the Shinigami refused. If that costs a leg and an arm for some implied reason then I'll have to go with that. As it stands Sayori will not bet her life. Okuni might, but sayori is not okuni.  

[Makako-ma]

Mephis Inferni

(OOC: Sayori may never enter this thread again, or she will be killed on the spot by The Reaper. You must now find a new path towards whatever your destination was.)

whats this about

The casino was her only destination by the way.

The reaper made no mention of this before sending her away. Not that he had to but is this a rule or just information

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mostly interested in whether or not I can will be banned for returning.  

[Mephis Inferni]

The Reaper has barred her from his domain. It's just as it says, if she enters it again, he will reap her. It is an out of character warning from The Grim Reaper, just in case his tone wasn't enough to discourage you from coming back.

I mean, if really want to enter it again...I won't stop you. But the warning has been made. We wouldn't ban you for that, but I cannot say that your character would survive.  

[Makako-ma]

Mephis Inferni

The Reaper has barred her from his domain. It's just as it says, if she enters it again, he will reap her. It is an out of character warning from The Grim Reaper, just in case his tone wasn't enough to discourage you from coming back.

I mean, if really want to enter it again...I won't stop you. But the warning has been made. We wouldn't ban you for that, but I cannot say that your character would survive.

question, he's called a Shinigami but appears to be a western variety.

It is common knowledge that everyone gets a game for their life. Would she be able to play for her life if she returned? Or could she steal her limbs back if the Shinigami isn't present? Once she's passed her title, death won't be much of an obstacle. Nor will a 3% chance of betraying the interests of the earth daimyo.  

[Mephis Inferni]

The appearance and mannerism of whatever phantom, creature, or entity is dictated by the individual playing them. When I'm running Grim Casino, it is Death himself. If Byagane were playing the role, perhaps she'd be something more akin to Ryuk from Death Note. And so on and so forth.

You would have to be very convincing and be a major suck up to convince him to not only stop himself from killing you, but to even allow you to play in his casino. If you manage that, then he'll let you play for the chance to have your limbs back...however, the wager will be your other arm and leg. Lose and you're just a torso and a head.  

[Makako-ma]

Mephis Inferni

The appearance and mannerism of whatever phantom, creature, or entity is dictated by the individual playing them. When I'm running Grim Casino, it is Death himself. If Byagane were playing the role, perhaps she'd be something more akin to Ryuk from Death Note. And so on and so forth.

You would have to be very convincing and be a major suck up to convince him to not only stop himself from killing you, but to even allow you to play in his casino. If you manage that, then he'll let you play for the chance to have your limbs back...however, the wager will be your other arm and leg. Lose and you're just a torso and a head.

she probably wouldn't suck up in the traditional sense. Luckily she's also got a certain way of approaching apparitions to begin with. She considers the Shinigami to be a "Lord" regardless. There's still an issue with the casino itself though. But this too might not be an issue either way. Sayori herself feels no right to complain regardless. She was given something valuable by the Shinigami in exchange for her limbs.. she isn't too sure what to trade back for them but she has a few options probably.