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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:58 pm
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FogSage Let others braver and smarter than me go and get killed for some cause that shouldn't exsist. I want only to live, and I care not how or where I do it, so long as I preserve my life above all else. I know this sounds cowardly and selfish, but man is an animal, just like any other. It is driven by the will to survive at all costs, and to have to be handed a death sentence by the government is not something I'm willing to do. My loyalty lays only with myself and with nothing else. Sorry. Not specifically in reference to war and fighting, but... Man is animal, but the ones you call braver and smarter than you are able to break away from primal insticts, just as one does when they learn the difference between right and wrong. Yet because you are man, as are all men, you're not able to do that?
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:07 pm
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Zella L. FogSage Let others braver and smarter than me go and get killed for some cause that shouldn't exsist. I want only to live, and I care not how or where I do it, so long as I preserve my life above all else. I know this sounds cowardly and selfish, but man is an animal, just like any other. It is driven by the will to survive at all costs, and to have to be handed a death sentence by the government is not something I'm willing to do. My loyalty lays only with myself and with nothing else. Sorry. Not specifically in reference to war and fighting, but... Man is animal, but the ones you call braver and smarter than you are able to break away from primal insticts, just as one does when they learn the difference between right and wrong. Yet because you are man, as are all men, you're not able to do that?
No, I'm not. I'm not brave or clever or anything of that sort. And I refuse to be cannon fodder for the armed forces. I want to live, and if my life is in any way jeopardized, then I will leave and go where I will be bothered no more by it. Possibly to Canada, as they're neutral on pretty much everything, or I could move to one of those little island countries in the South Pacific.
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:12 pm
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:14 pm
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:02 pm
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I'm gonna throw in my two cents here, mainly in agreement with Arty......
I support our troops 210%...but I will never join the military. The only way you'll find me in the military is if they reinstate the draft and then force me to join. My reasoning is thus: I will support my country 100%, but I do NOT support Bush and his little escapades overseas. If I joined the military, I would HAVE to fight for that cause, and I don't want to fight for a cause I don't believe in. People say "well, why don't you join the National Guard then? That way you can be part of the military, and you can stay on your own ground to help out." To them I say "What about all the National Guard units in Vermont that have just been sent overseas. If Vermont got hit by a massive ice storm, we wouldn't have half the National Guard we're supposed to have to help out the state in its time of natural disaster, because the National Guard that's supposed to be here, is overseas in Middle East." But if natural disaster strikes, who's to say that I HAVE to be part of the military to help out? I can volunteer for my country when it's in need on my own, I don't have to have a fancy uniform to do it.
Now again, don't get me wrong, I support our troops 210%, half my family and friends are in the army...These are just my reasons for not joining.
This probably had nothing to do with what you were discussing....but I felt like I had to say that....Sorry.... sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:23 pm
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:01 am
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:11 am
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:43 am
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:32 am
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:38 am
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FogSage I know this sounds cowardly and selfish, but man is an animal, just like any other. It is driven by the will to survive at all costs, and to have to be handed a death sentence by the government is not something I'm willing to do. My loyalty lays only with myself and with nothing else. Sorry. Military service is not a death sentence. The great majority of people who go to war also come back in one piece. Missions like the 1993 October raid on Mohammed Farah Aidid's HQ, where over half the soldiers were wounded, are extremely unusual.
If military service were a death sentence, how come I'm here? Going far back, my ancestors served for the King of Britain or the Tsar of Russia. A little more recently, they served the United States of America (one of them in a non-combat position, mind you, as he was blind in one eye).
I won't judge you for fearing a messy death or for not wanting to serve in the military. I don't like the idea of being shot, myself, or of serving. I will say that your ideas of war are... distorted.
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:35 am
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Shaviv FogSage I know this sounds cowardly and selfish, but man is an animal, just like any other. It is driven by the will to survive at all costs, and to have to be handed a death sentence by the government is not something I'm willing to do. My loyalty lays only with myself and with nothing else. Sorry. Military service is not a death sentence. The great majority of people who go to war also come back in one piece. Missions like the 1993 October raid on Mohammed Farah Aidid's HQ, where over half the soldiers were wounded, are extremely unusual. If military service were a death sentence, how come I'm here? Going far back, my ancestors served for the King of Britain or the Tsar of Russia. A little more recently, they served the United States of America (one of them in a non-combat position, mind you, as he was blind in one eye). I won't judge you for fearing a messy death or for not wanting to serve in the military. I don't like the idea of being shot, myself, or of serving. I will say that your ideas of war are... distorted.
I will never, EVER be in the armed forces. The idea of having to go through basic training is bad enough, but combine that with learning how to shoot and kill people is even worse. Besides, if they come for me, I won't hesitate to get dishonorably discharged by saying I'm a homosexual. I don't care, honestly. I'd rather be free to live my life without having to fight in a war that I didn't ask for.
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:40 pm
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:19 pm
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UglyCoyoteNG rofl I don't know but they sure seem to go "wtf" if you try to mimic them~! They do it because they are just that cool. cool
I've always called that motion, the mantis sway, and they do seem to do it a lot. They do it while stalking their prey, when excited, nervous, happy, curious, and a just randomly. Why? well I believe it has to do with an inborn instinct to mimic motions of sticks/grass swaying in the wind. In their natural environment, mantises often hang out on plants, and plant leaves sway back and forth in the wind. Thus mantises would mimic the motion as they travel amongst the leaves. Lot more successful sneaking up on prey and avoiding predators that way than just running about.
It also isn't the only plant motion they mimic. When startled, a mantis will often reach straight out with its claws and antennae, and flaten itself to the ground. They go completely riged when doing this, all in an effort to look like a stick. If a predator pokes them or gets to close, they have even been known to release their hold and fall to the ground in the same position mimicking a stick breaking off and falling to the ground. Yep, mantises like to pretend to be vegitation, a lot. XD
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