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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:28 pm
Imad Jibril Zaaki Your still doing bad stuff. I don't know you in personal life, but be like a boy! Like instead of playing barbie dress up games, play some Vector Tower Deffence!!! And you shall be like a boy, like no earings, short hair, boy talking! Your not trying to be normal. Maybe you pray, but that's not enugh! You also have to try. Between you HAVE TO mary a woman... 1. I don't play with barbie dolls. I'm far too old for that silly sort of stuff. I played with Legos, thank you very much.
2. Boy talking? You're the one that sounds childish. If you're referring to the ridiculously high-pitched voice that some gays have, you're wrong on assuming I fit that stereotype. I have a very deep voice and do not have that femme walk. My parents are unable to figure it out. And there is nothing wrong with well trimmed and neatly groomed hair that doesn't get in the way.
3. I wouldn't marry a woman and make her miserable. Nor would I attempt to marry a man....now a secret transvestite (pretending to be a girl but really a female-looking guy)....maybe. It's not like I can really tell under all the coverings girls have anyways.
And what makes you think I haven't tried to be "normal?" Try forgetting who you truly are and live a lie for a while. I did that. It was the most painful psychological experience of my life. I did it for a year, and ttried to be like the other guys. Being gay is not a choice. For some people, maybe. For me; it's who I am.
Yes, I am a flaming Muslim...but Allah loves me!
1. I were talking about computer games, but you sound ok... 2. What's groomed hair? Is it long ore short? Is it those round things? 3. Ok... You got a dik? Do you got a handicap soo you have both sex? (i'm not talking physical) 4. You tried 1 year cool And the you give up rolleyes Is it hard to be normal confused
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:32 pm
Zaaki 1. I were talking about computer games, but you sound ok... 2. What's groomed hair? Is it long ore short? Is it those round things? 3. Ok... You got a dik? Do you got a handicap soo you have both sex? (i'm not talking physical) 4. You tried 1 year cool And the you give up rolleyes Is it hard to be normal confused 2. No, it's not an afro. Just extremely thick hair that is hard to tame. 3. Don't see the point of this. I am just not attracted to women sexually. I don't get urges, I can't see me marrying one of them. If I was forced, it would be very unhappy for the woman and for me. It wouldn't "cure" me. It would be cruel to inflict such unhappiness. 4. Try lying to yourself for a year. Then we'll talk. What is normal for you is not normal for me. It is subjective. Especially since Allah created us to be unique creatures.
Yes, I am a flaming Muslim...but Allah loves me!
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The Dead Terrorist Achmed
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:15 am
Imad Jibril Zaaki 1. I were talking about computer games, but you sound ok... 2. What's groomed hair? Is it long ore short? Is it those round things? 3. Ok... You got a dik? Do you got a handicap soo you have both sex? (i'm not talking physical) 4. You tried 1 year cool And the you give up rolleyes Is it hard to be normal confused 2. No, it's not an afro. Just extremely thick hair that is hard to tame. 3. Don't see the point of this. I am just not attracted to women sexually. I don't get urges, I can't see me marrying one of them. If I was forced, it would be very unhappy for the woman and for me. It wouldn't "cure" me. It would be cruel to inflict such unhappiness. 4. Try lying to yourself for a year. Then we'll talk. What is normal for you is not normal for me. It is subjective. Especially since Allah created us to be unique creatures.
Yes, I am a flaming Muslim...but Allah loves me!
By being gay, your lying for yourself. rolleyes
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:24 pm
*cough* im guna blow myself into this convo now.
YO!!! HELLO!!!! SALAMMY BROTHAS!!!... And sisters lol My name is jamilah (not always but now called) Im 16 about to be 17 in sep. I was not born muslim but thats a WHOLE nother story. =) So uh A little info i guess. I'm maliki muslim. Uh I was born in a little town not on the map called Seaside, California but i live in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania now. Uh I've been muslim since i was 10 I've read the quran at lest 8 time threw out my life as a muslim Im trying to get better. Uh... lets see i live in the bad part of town, always have and i also have gotten caught up in the madness but i was able to pull myself out, Ive had the support of my hopfully future husband who name is -giggle- Imad. xd He doesnt live here in pitt with me anymore sadly. -sniff- he live like only 2 hours away from me though so we're good. Hes so darn lucky to! While im sitting here getting highschool credits he's already getting collage credits! augh! and the funny thing is we're both were homeschooled! lol but thats why i love him cuz hes smart..... and totally cute xd 3nodding sweatdrop sorry girl hormones. So If yah wana know anything else just check out my profile. Also ppl just cal me jammy or jay =)
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:55 am
Poochiechan *cough* im guna blow myself into this convo now. YO!!! HELLO!!!! SALAMMY BROTHAS!!!... And sisters lol My name is jamilah (not always but now called) Im 16 about to be 17 in sep. I was not born muslim but thats a WHOLE nother story. =) So uh A little info i guess. I'm maliki muslim. Uh I was born in a little town not on the map called Seaside, California but i live in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania now. Uh I've been muslim since i was 10 I've read the quran at lest 8 time threw out my life as a muslim Im trying to get better. Uh... lets see i live in the bad part of town, always have and i also have gotten caught up in the madness but i was able to pull myself out, Ive had the support of my hopfully future husband who name is -giggle- Imad. xd He doesnt live here in pitt with me anymore sadly. -sniff- he live like only 2 hours away from me though so we're good. Hes so darn lucky to! While im sitting here getting highschool credits he's already getting collage credits! augh! and the funny thing is we're both were homeschooled! lol but thats why i love him cuz hes smart..... and totally cute xd 3nodding sweatdrop sorry girl hormones. So If yah wana know anything else just check out my profile. Also ppl just cal me jammy or jay =) Welcome to The Muslim Guild Of Gaia! You really talk much about your fionce lol You know, everyone is born muslim?
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:50 am
Zaaki Welcome to The Muslim Guild Of Gaia! You really talk much about your fionce lol You know, everyone is born muslim? Well of course i do. He's the only person who ever seems to care what i do or not. And well.. i guess i was brn muslim but i didnt know about islam till i was about 10. I'm basicly saying i wasnt born into islam like the lucky ones here. I was born into gang life so i had it harder then most ppl.
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:58 am
Poochiechan Zaaki Welcome to The Muslim Guild Of Gaia! You really talk much about your fionce lol You know, everyone is born muslim? Well of course i do. He's the only person who ever seems to care what i do or not. And well.. i guess i was brn muslim but i didnt know about islam till i was about 10. I'm basicly saying i wasnt born into islam like the lucky ones here. I was born into gang life so i had it harder then most ppl. Cool cool vere you a mafia boss ore something? Can you tell your story? I wana read it smile
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:04 pm
lol ok well mafia is italian xd though i have befriended some mafia.
Ok well My father was is the crypt gang. and when My mom was pregnant with me he went to jail for shooting a man. Thats were he learned about islam and became muslim. He didnt get out till i was 7, but i use to come visit him. While he was in the pen (you might not know what pen is but its basicly slang for jail) I was admitted into a gang since my father was known and my mama was a ghetto white girl. So since i was to be future generation of gang bangin i use to drive around with the gang memebers of the crypt. Ive seen people get shot outside my window. (im a project girl) when my father came home he started telling ym mom about islam and soon she converted. When i was 10 my father started telling em about islam but i wasnt hearing it cuz of all the crap his friends where telling. So when i was 11 i was admitted into the gang by ritual. Which there are two way. You can either have sex with one of the memebers or get the crap beat out of you. I chose the second. So after that i was jumped shot at and all the normal gang stuff. I never shot anyone though. But i have beat people to about death in my days. Emad was born muslim and he was the only muslim who would actualy talk to me and be my friend. So he moved out here with us. So one day when i was 14 about to turn 15 we moved to pittsburgh... where now i have to deal with eastcoasties. but im not so much into the gang banging anymore since im in a toally new plac. Plus ive meet other muslims who have been what ive been threw. and i also have my dad =] so now that im actually understanding what ive done wrong. Ive matured and now i actually were hijab and jilbab so ive changed in many ways. Ive completely cut off my ties with the other gang members now that the crew has split up since california has cleaned up a bit. So now im hopefully going to get married have kids but they are so not growing up in the city!! no no no! theyre growing out in the boonies! with the lions and bears lol
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:24 am
Poochiechan lol ok well mafia is italian xd though i have befriended some mafia. Ok well My father was is the crypt gang. and when My mom was pregnant with me he went to jail for shooting a man. Thats were he learned about islam and became muslim. He didnt get out till i was 7, but i use to come visit him. While he was in the pen (you might not know what pen is but its basicly slang for jail) I was admitted into a gang since my father was known and my mama was a ghetto white girl. So since i was to be future generation of gang bangin i use to drive around with the gang memebers of the crypt. Ive seen people get shot outside my window. (im a project girl) when my father came home he started telling ym mom about islam and soon she converted. When i was 10 my father started telling em about islam but i wasnt hearing it cuz of all the crap his friends where telling. So when i was 11 i was admitted into the gang by ritual. Which there are two way. You can either have sex with one of the memebers or get the crap beat out of you. I chose the second. So after that i was jumped shot at and all the normal gang stuff. I never shot anyone though. But i have beat people to about death in my days. Emad was born muslim and he was the only muslim who would actualy talk to me and be my friend. So he moved out here with us. So one day when i was 14 about to turn 15 we moved to pittsburgh... where now i have to deal with eastcoasties. but im not so much into the gang banging anymore since im in a toally new plac. Plus ive meet other muslims who have been what ive been threw. and i also have my dad =] so now that im actually understanding what ive done wrong. Ive matured and now i actually were hijab and jilbab so ive changed in many ways. Ive completely cut off my ties with the other gang members now that the crew has split up since california has cleaned up a bit. So now im hopefully going to get married have kids but they are so not growing up in the city!! no no no! theyre growing out in the boonies! with the lions and bears lol Cool story smile You should make a book about it.
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:46 am
Zaaki Imad Jibril Zaaki 1. I were talking about computer games, but you sound ok... 2. What's groomed hair? Is it long ore short? Is it those round things? 3. Ok... You got a dik? Do you got a handicap soo you have both sex? (i'm not talking physical) 4. You tried 1 year cool And the you give up rolleyes Is it hard to be normal confused 2. No, it's not an afro. Just extremely thick hair that is hard to tame. 3. Don't see the point of this. I am just not attracted to women sexually. I don't get urges, I can't see me marrying one of them. If I was forced, it would be very unhappy for the woman and for me. It wouldn't "cure" me. It would be cruel to inflict such unhappiness. 4. Try lying to yourself for a year. Then we'll talk. What is normal for you is not normal for me. It is subjective. Especially since Allah created us to be unique creatures.
Yes, I am a flaming Muslim...but Allah loves me!
By being gay, your lying for yourself. rolleyes Seriously, Zaaki what the heck is your problem with Jibril? Just because he's gay doesn't make him any less of a person. I know you're only 13, but dear Lord, modern science has already proved that "being gay" is not a personal choice (granted there are some that "choose" but that is because they had a traumatic experience with the opposite sex). Jibril didn't choose to be gay. Not the way he keeps on praying to Allah. He is gay by birth and and quite possibly some chemical issues in his brain. NOT BY CHOICE. I've never seen anyone pray so hard and try so hard to be what you consider "normal". He's tried many different things, including going to a psychiatrist to see if he could be "changed" (i helped him pay for the bill because he didn't want it to go on his parents insurance and get them suspicious). It's impossible, unless he gets a sex change. And I don't think he wants to change what Allah has given him that much.
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:51 am
Ratri_Cat Zaaki Imad Jibril Zaaki 1. I were talking about computer games, but you sound ok... 2. What's groomed hair? Is it long ore short? Is it those round things? 3. Ok... You got a dik? Do you got a handicap soo you have both sex? (i'm not talking physical) 4. You tried 1 year cool And the you give up rolleyes Is it hard to be normal confused 2. No, it's not an afro. Just extremely thick hair that is hard to tame. 3. Don't see the point of this. I am just not attracted to women sexually. I don't get urges, I can't see me marrying one of them. If I was forced, it would be very unhappy for the woman and for me. It wouldn't "cure" me. It would be cruel to inflict such unhappiness. 4. Try lying to yourself for a year. Then we'll talk. What is normal for you is not normal for me. It is subjective. Especially since Allah created us to be unique creatures.
Yes, I am a flaming Muslim...but Allah loves me!
By being gay, your lying for yourself. rolleyes Seriously, Zaaki what the heck is your problem with Jibril? Just because he's gay doesn't make him any less of a person. I know you're only 13, but dear Lord, modern science has already proved that "being gay" is not a personal choice (granted there are some that "choose" but that is because they had a traumatic experience with the opposite sex). Jibril didn't choose to be gay. Not the way he keeps on praying to Allah. He is gay by birth and and quite possibly some chemical issues in his brain. NOT BY CHOICE. I've never seen anyone pray so hard and try so hard to be what you consider "normal". He's tried many different things, including going to a psychiatrist to see if he could be "changed" (i helped him pay for the bill because he didn't want it to go on his parents insurance and get them suspicious). It's impossible, unless he gets a sex change. And I don't think he wants to change what Allah has given him that much. That's not my problem neutral
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:22 pm
Zaaki Ratri_Cat Zaaki Imad Jibril Zaaki 1. I were talking about computer games, but you sound ok... 2. What's groomed hair? Is it long ore short? Is it those round things? 3. Ok... You got a dik? Do you got a handicap soo you have both sex? (i'm not talking physical) 4. You tried 1 year cool And the you give up rolleyes Is it hard to be normal confused 2. No, it's not an afro. Just extremely thick hair that is hard to tame. 3. Don't see the point of this. I am just not attracted to women sexually. I don't get urges, I can't see me marrying one of them. If I was forced, it would be very unhappy for the woman and for me. It wouldn't "cure" me. It would be cruel to inflict such unhappiness. 4. Try lying to yourself for a year. Then we'll talk. What is normal for you is not normal for me. It is subjective. Especially since Allah created us to be unique creatures.
Yes, I am a flaming Muslim...but Allah loves me!
By being gay, your lying for yourself. rolleyes Seriously, Zaaki what the heck is your problem with Jibril? Just because he's gay doesn't make him any less of a person. I know you're only 13, but dear Lord, modern science has already proved that "being gay" is not a personal choice (granted there are some that "choose" but that is because they had a traumatic experience with the opposite sex). Jibril didn't choose to be gay. Not the way he keeps on praying to Allah. He is gay by birth and and quite possibly some chemical issues in his brain. NOT BY CHOICE. I've never seen anyone pray so hard and try so hard to be what you consider "normal". He's tried many different things, including going to a psychiatrist to see if he could be "changed" (i helped him pay for the bill because he didn't want it to go on his parents insurance and get them suspicious). It's impossible, unless he gets a sex change. And I don't think he wants to change what Allah has given him that much. That's not my problem neutral What your problem is that you have an inability to accept people who are different from you. Look at squinty and Jibril. One is gay and the other is a Shi'a. Your posts have been derogatory and degrading to both individuals. You accuse Jibril of not being a real Muslim and tell him he needs to change simply because he is gay. I don't know much about Allah...but what I know about God is that he is merciful and loves EVERYONE, regardless of who they are. Why should you care about him being gay and telling him that he is in the wrong when he can't change? Why should Allah be so fricken discriminatory? If he truly is all-powerful, and all-knowing, he should be accepting and forgiving of ALL PEOPLE, especially if they try to find the true path to Him. Otherwise, I'd say that the Allah you pray to is nothing more than a shadow of the true, all-powerful, all-knowing, merciful Allah.
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:38 pm
Ratri_Cat Zaaki Ratri_Cat Zaaki Imad Jibril Zaaki 1. I were talking about computer games, but you sound ok... 2. What's groomed hair? Is it long ore short? Is it those round things? 3. Ok... You got a dik? Do you got a handicap soo you have both sex? (i'm not talking physical) 4. You tried 1 year cool And the you give up rolleyes Is it hard to be normal confused 2. No, it's not an afro. Just extremely thick hair that is hard to tame. 3. Don't see the point of this. I am just not attracted to women sexually. I don't get urges, I can't see me marrying one of them. If I was forced, it would be very unhappy for the woman and for me. It wouldn't "cure" me. It would be cruel to inflict such unhappiness. 4. Try lying to yourself for a year. Then we'll talk. What is normal for you is not normal for me. It is subjective. Especially since Allah created us to be unique creatures.
Yes, I am a flaming Muslim...but Allah loves me!
By being gay, your lying for yourself. rolleyes Seriously, Zaaki what the heck is your problem with Jibril? Just because he's gay doesn't make him any less of a person. I know you're only 13, but dear Lord, modern science has already proved that "being gay" is not a personal choice (granted there are some that "choose" but that is because they had a traumatic experience with the opposite sex). Jibril didn't choose to be gay. Not the way he keeps on praying to Allah. He is gay by birth and and quite possibly some chemical issues in his brain. NOT BY CHOICE. I've never seen anyone pray so hard and try so hard to be what you consider "normal". He's tried many different things, including going to a psychiatrist to see if he could be "changed" (i helped him pay for the bill because he didn't want it to go on his parents insurance and get them suspicious). It's impossible, unless he gets a sex change. And I don't think he wants to change what Allah has given him that much. That's not my problem neutral What your problem is that you have an inability to accept people who are different from you. Look at squinty and Jibril. One is gay and the other is a Shi'a. Your posts have been derogatory and degrading to both individuals. You accuse Jibril of not being a real Muslim and tell him he needs to change simply because he is gay. I don't know much about Allah...but what I know about God is that he is merciful and loves EVERYONE, regardless of who they are. Why should you care about him being gay and telling him that he is in the wrong when he can't change? Why should Allah be so fricken discriminatory? If he truly is all-powerful, and all-knowing, he should be accepting and forgiving of ALL PEOPLE, especially if they try to find the true path to Him. Otherwise, I'd say that the Allah you pray to is nothing more than a shadow of the true, all-powerful, all-knowing, merciful Allah. I whill answer your question later, but why can't you accept me?
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:50 pm
Well first off Allah is not discriminating! Zakki is giving you all the wrong pointer of him. Allah just tells what is and can not be. He gave people these things such as affection for the same gender as a test. If we are devout in are love for him we will do are best to suppress such feeling. Because allah is like a parent. He tells us what is right and wrong for our own good and like children we either disobey or fallow. I agree though with ratri you are being to hard on him being gay is a personal choice I believe that. Its also a mental disorder at the same time. Ratri zakki is acting out on his own impulse of going against Imad and his homosexuality
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:02 pm
Poochiechan Well first off Allah is not discriminating! Zakki is giving you all the wrong pointer of him. Allah just tells what is and can not be. He gave people these things such as affection for the same gender as a test. If we are devout in are love for him we will do are best to suppress such feeling. Because allah is like a parent. He tells us what is right and wrong for our own good and like children we either disobey or fallow. I agree though with ratri you are being to hard on him being gay is a personal choice I believe that. Its also a mental disorder at the same time. Ratri zakki is acting out on his own impulse of going against Imad and his homosexuality I am being hard on Zaaki because I think that the notion of homosexuality being a personal choice is a bunch of bullshit. It isn't. Some people make that choice,yes. Generally, most people do not who are gays. I don't understand why people seem to think that, because it is not. Have you talked and lived near gays? I have. They do not make that choice. I've seen Jibril pray with all his heart and desperately tried to believe that he could change. It was heartbreaking. He nearly had a nervous breakdown. It was that terrible. And even if it is a mental disorder (which psychiatrists have already cleared up the notion that it is not) why should Allah punish people like that? Wouldn't it be the fault of Allah for a mental disorder? He created people. Some have mental disorders. Then are you saying that Allah created mental disorders in people so that they could be punished by others? Neither of you are making sense here.
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