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 Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:56 am
Ratri_Cat Mini_Angel_1994 Let me clear something out, Eve and Adam is a true story. God first created Adam, then he created Eve from a part of Adam's body. Then they gave birth. Then, it was ok for brothers and sisters to get married and have children, because well, it was the first of creation, then when God sent other prophets, he declared it was forbidden. And marrying your step sister is forbidden. But even though it wasn't forbidden, I wouldn't marry my step brother!!
believe what you want. It's still a poetic story of creation in my book and for the rest of us Catholics.
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:41 am
well i have a question as an outsider to this guild.... can Muslim women marry a non-Muslim man?
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:12 am
Familiar Soul well i have a question as an outsider to this guild.... can Muslim women marry a non-Muslim man? Yes she can, but it's haram! And don't marry that girl u told me about, beffore u convert! Cause she wont marry u till u become muslim!
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:58 am
Zaaki Familiar Soul well i have a question as an outsider to this guild.... can Muslim women marry a non-Muslim man? Yes she can, but it's haram! And don't marry that girl u told me about, beffore u convert! Cause she wont marry u till u become muslim! Aw, that's sad. I hope it works out for you, Familiar. How "haram" is it? I mean, maybe if it's not too big, she'll marry you anyway.
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:03 am
BeXlieXve Zaaki Familiar Soul well i have a question as an outsider to this guild.... can Muslim women marry a non-Muslim man? Yes she can, but it's haram! And don't marry that girl u told me about, beffore u convert! Cause she wont marry u till u become muslim! Aw, that's sad. I hope it works out for you, Familiar. How "haram" is it? I mean, maybe if it's not too big, she'll marry you anyway. Based on Zaaki's reaction and other posts on muslim sites, its a pretty big "haraam" which I find entirely depressing.
What tassan? I'm not going to get into a big theological argument on a stance that I won't ever change and neither will sunni muslims....although I don't really know the Shiite take on this...
...kit ugye verekszik részére?
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:03 am
BeXlieXve Zaaki Familiar Soul well i have a question as an outsider to this guild.... can Muslim women marry a non-Muslim man? Yes she can, but it's haram! And don't marry that girl u told me about, beffore u convert! Cause she wont marry u till u become muslim! Aw, that's sad. I hope it works out for you, Familiar. How "haram" is it? I mean, maybe if it's not too big, she'll marry you anyway. @zaaki- gonk i dont want to marry her, i just wanted to know if they could. Im already engaged to someone else. and whats haram? @bex- thanks but like i told zaaki, im just a friend never though of her as anything else xp
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:13 am
Familiar Soul BeXlieXve Zaaki Familiar Soul well i have a question as an outsider to this guild.... can Muslim women marry a non-Muslim man? Yes she can, but it's haram! And don't marry that girl u told me about, beffore u convert! Cause she wont marry u till u become muslim! Aw, that's sad. I hope it works out for you, Familiar. How "haram" is it? I mean, maybe if it's not too big, she'll marry you anyway. @zaaki- gonk i dont want to marry her, i just wanted to know if they could. Im already engaged to someone else. and whats haram? @bex- thanks but like i told zaaki, im just a friend never though of her as anything else xp Okay, that's good, then. 3nodding From what I've gathered, "haram" means like, "forbidden." Kind of like sins for Christians, maybe?
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:17 am
BeXlieXve Familiar Soul BeXlieXve Zaaki Familiar Soul well i have a question as an outsider to this guild.... can Muslim women marry a non-Muslim man? Yes she can, but it's haram! And don't marry that girl u told me about, beffore u convert! Cause she wont marry u till u become muslim! Aw, that's sad. I hope it works out for you, Familiar. How "haram" is it? I mean, maybe if it's not too big, she'll marry you anyway. @zaaki- gonk i dont want to marry her, i just wanted to know if they could. Im already engaged to someone else. and whats haram? @bex- thanks but like i told zaaki, im just a friend never though of her as anything else xp Okay, that's good, then. 3nodding From what I've gathered, "haram" means like, "forbidden." Kind of like sins for Christians, maybe? I see...well i dont have a religion..but my family is mostly Chistian. just havent found a religion i cant put faith into...yet.
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:20 am
Familiar Soul BeXlieXve Familiar Soul BeXlieXve Zaaki Familiar Soul well i have a question as an outsider to this guild.... can Muslim women marry a non-Muslim man? Yes she can, but it's haram! And don't marry that girl u told me about, beffore u convert! Cause she wont marry u till u become muslim! Aw, that's sad. I hope it works out for you, Familiar. How "haram" is it? I mean, maybe if it's not too big, she'll marry you anyway. @zaaki- gonk i dont want to marry her, i just wanted to know if they could. Im already engaged to someone else. and whats haram? @bex- thanks but like i told zaaki, im just a friend never though of her as anything else xp Okay, that's good, then. 3nodding From what I've gathered, "haram" means like, "forbidden." Kind of like sins for Christians, maybe? I see...well i dont have a religion..but my family is mostly Chistian. just havent found a religion i cant put faith into...yet. It's cool, man. Maybe you'll find a religion someday, maybe you won't. It's better to put some thought into it rather than just taking whatever you're told, y'know? So don't worry about it.
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:29 am
BeXlieXve Familiar Soul BeXlieXve Familiar Soul BeXlieXve Aw, that's sad. I hope it works out for you, Familiar. How "haram" is it? I mean, maybe if it's not too big, she'll marry you anyway. @zaaki- gonk i dont want to marry her, i just wanted to know if they could. Im already engaged to someone else. and whats haram? @bex- thanks but like i told zaaki, im just a friend never though of her as anything else xp Okay, that's good, then. 3nodding From what I've gathered, "haram" means like, "forbidden." Kind of like sins for Christians, maybe? I see...well i dont have a religion..but my family is mostly Chistian. just havent found a religion i cant put faith into...yet. It's cool, man. Maybe you'll find a religion someday, maybe you won't. It's better to put some thought into it rather than just taking whatever you're told, y'know? So don't worry about it. oh im not worried, i have been without religion for this long and have been happy so if I find one good if not then thats ok too 3nodding thank you for the kind words tho ^^
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:05 pm
Familiar Soul BeXlieXve Familiar Soul BeXlieXve Familiar Soul BeXlieXve Aw, that's sad. I hope it works out for you, Familiar. How "haram" is it? I mean, maybe if it's not too big, she'll marry you anyway. @zaaki- gonk i dont want to marry her, i just wanted to know if they could. Im already engaged to someone else. and whats haram? @bex- thanks but like i told zaaki, im just a friend never though of her as anything else xp Okay, that's good, then. 3nodding From what I've gathered, "haram" means like, "forbidden." Kind of like sins for Christians, maybe? I see...well i dont have a religion..but my family is mostly Chistian. just havent found a religion i cant put faith into...yet. It's cool, man. Maybe you'll find a religion someday, maybe you won't. It's better to put some thought into it rather than just taking whatever you're told, y'know? So don't worry about it. oh im not worried, i have been without religion for this long and have been happy so if I find one good if not then thats ok too 3nodding thank you for the kind words tho ^^ People, this is somone who's going on the right path 3nodding The angel, is really strong!
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:15 pm
Zaaki Familiar Soul BeXlieXve Familiar Soul BeXlieXve Okay, that's good, then. 3nodding From what I've gathered, "haram" means like, "forbidden." Kind of like sins for Christians, maybe? I see...well i dont have a religion..but my family is mostly Chistian. just havent found a religion i cant put faith into...yet. It's cool, man. Maybe you'll find a religion someday, maybe you won't. It's better to put some thought into it rather than just taking whatever you're told, y'know? So don't worry about it. oh im not worried, i have been without religion for this long and have been happy so if I find one good if not then thats ok too 3nodding thank you for the kind words tho ^^ People, this is somone who's going on the right path 3nodding The angel, is really strong! right path huh...what do you mean exactly sweatdrop *looks around* angel...im a little confused buy that one sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:14 pm
Familiar Soul Zaaki Familiar Soul BeXlieXve Familiar Soul BeXlieXve Okay, that's good, then. 3nodding From what I've gathered, "haram" means like, "forbidden." Kind of like sins for Christians, maybe? I see...well i dont have a religion..but my family is mostly Chistian. just havent found a religion i cant put faith into...yet. It's cool, man. Maybe you'll find a religion someday, maybe you won't. It's better to put some thought into it rather than just taking whatever you're told, y'know? So don't worry about it. oh im not worried, i have been without religion for this long and have been happy so if I find one good if not then thats ok too 3nodding thank you for the kind words tho ^^ People, this is somone who's going on the right path 3nodding The angel, is really strong! right path huh...what do you mean exactly sweatdrop *looks around* angel...im a little confused buy that one sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:44 am
Ratri_Cat Familiar Soul Zaaki Familiar Soul BeXlieXve It's cool, man. Maybe you'll find a religion someday, maybe you won't. It's better to put some thought into it rather than just taking whatever you're told, y'know? So don't worry about it. oh im not worried, i have been without religion for this long and have been happy so if I find one good if not then thats ok too 3nodding thank you for the kind words tho ^^ People, this is somone who's going on the right path 3nodding The angel, is really strong! right path huh...what do you mean exactly sweatdrop *looks around* angel...im a little confused buy that one sweatdrop Yup, he got his answer razz He must be muslim first! razz
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:19 pm
The Dead Terrorist Achmed Actually Ratri, I'm pretty glad that you posted this stuff up. Phoenixa, nice job being an apologetic for the Muslim faith.
It's good to see the lack of knowledge being filled with the light of Allah.
Ratri, informed as you are about the Islam faith, you still ask/demand answers like many people who are misinformed about the faith.
it does not help that many sources that are available to general public take bits of the qur'an and manipulate the text, thus giving those who are not well-versed with the Qu'ran and Islam a slanted view, which totally corresponds with why and what you posted.
Your posts, challenging us to actually give a proper definition to things is great. I really think that there needs to be more material that gives a better view of muslims and our beliefs. Phoenixa, you did a fabulous job with your defense. It's too bad that there aren't more sources like you, both online and in books.
As sad as it is to see vehemence in some of the posts, i think this kind of interfaith dialogue is needed. Too many people are ill-informed about the faith and too many fundamentalist Muslims continue to misconstrue the true meaning of Allah's word.
I will only speak on the behalf of your quotes of Quranic texts, as I'm not well-versed in as you [Ratri] call it, secular history. that is another issue all on its own...
blushes Jazzakumullah. I just wish I had more time to address issues. What bothers me the most is when I am sure of something and my pointed is supported by numerous verses of the Qur'an........and the rest of Muslims give me the "No you are wrong attitude" or ignore what I say and give repetitive answers. I agree with you on the FACT that there should be more interfaith dialogue.
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