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But Surah 9:5 says nothing of opression against Muslims. It looks like, in other words, it is saying "Kill and slaughter the Pagans wherever they are, but if they become a Muslim, then open the way for them."

And 9:29 seems to be saying "Fight those who don't beleive in Allah, until they pay the tax in submission" And also, what does it mean "not acknowlege the religion of Truth?" It can't be talking about Islam, otherwise you the Quran would be saying "don't acknowledge the religion of Islam."

And 2:193 makes sense now~


I was actually questioning those two first verses as well (9:5 & 29) and I read a copy of the Qur'an I have, It states as a explanation that during those times Islam was different from other scriptures, And that it required protection.

But if I were to say myself, I'd simply say those first two verses are one of the view misinterpreted verses used to justify terrorists like Al Qauda (SP) and the Taliban. The verse is something that focuses on that state of time, During the time the verse was revealed, Muslims were defending themselves from the pagan tribes around Saudi Arabia. This verse cannot be used for this day and time. (Because you can't have random Muslims following the verse and killing innocent Jews/Christians/Pagans whatever other religion it may be, That's absolutely what Islam displays, Rather it displays conversion through peace and knowledge)
Ah, I see~ That makes more sense! :] Thanks~!

@Syrok: I was just summarizing the Surah from my previous post! :]


My pleasure to assist you in understanding. Might I also mention The Qur'an has Verses that are both meant to be taken Literally and Spiritually, But never one side or the other completely.
Just as the Bible! :] And I was thinking, and I have another question~

Shouldn't the Quran be universally true to all times? Like, if it was true back then, then it should have been true now, yes?


There are verses that should be taken for all times, Yes. These verses would be the more Spiritual ones let alone legislation, But the Qur'an gives events that are also in the Bible and as such is used as a lesson to show morality within Society and how to treat others, Reminding Muslims who read the Qur'an on how to follow the Prophet's(Peace be upon them all) rulings and actions. Such as the stories of Abraham(AS), Moses(AS), Or Jesus(AS). Some actions can't be put into effect because there are also events that show the actions of Pious believers during Muhammad's(PBUH & SAW) time, Such as when Muhammad(PBUH & SAW) was made to leave Mecca and migrate to Medina, Ali(PBUH) slept in his bed so that the tribes planning to kill Muhammad(PBUH & SAW) would be tricked, Risking Ali's(PBUH) life for the sake of Islam, Here is the verse to show the merit of Ali's(PBUH) deed. (This is the Shi'a view of course, I believe the Sunni view believe this verse was attributed to Abu Bakr who was with Muhammad(PBUH & SAW) in the cave as they hide from the tribes)
2:207 - and there is the type of man who gives his life willingly to earn the pleasures of Allah; and Allah is full of kindness to his devotees -
These amazing deeds can't be replicated in this day or age, But they are used as a example to be followed for everyone who believes/follows it.
Ah, so I ask you now. What was Surah 5 and 29? Was it merely a historical account, or was it and is it a command by Mohammad (PBUH)?