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 Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:07 am
Freak_090 Fresnel Freak_090 Fresnel OberFeldwebel How is a reliance on logistics not overpopulation? If the population is high enough to need importation of food, how is that not over population? Because there still IS food to be imported. We don't have more mouths than we can feed, we just don't have the mouths in all the right places. Go back five hundred years. Imagine the marketplace system broke down. How would people get their food? The logistics change over time, but we've been reliant on them for a very long time now. Over population on a regional level =/= Over population on a global level This is what I've been failing to explain. Thanks, Freak. razz ^_^ It happens. Back to OP: Marriage has become a religious thing. so if one religions refuses to marry a couple dimply due to that who they are, it is completely within that churches right to refuse. You would be asking a priest to preform a sacrilegious act for two other peoples gain. WHY? there are plenty of other people who would be willing to wed the two. In essence: Gay marriage shouldn't be forced on nor denied to anyone. You can't make a priest to go against his religion, nor can you deny two people their rights as a couple just because they are of the same sex. The only people they have the right to force to preside over the marriage are judges (and maybe USN Captains). And since judges are allowed to legally marry two people, I see no problem with that.
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:54 pm
Fresnel Freak_090 Fresnel Freak_090 Fresnel OberFeldwebel How is a reliance on logistics not overpopulation? If the population is high enough to need importation of food, how is that not over population? Because there still IS food to be imported. We don't have more mouths than we can feed, we just don't have the mouths in all the right places. Go back five hundred years. Imagine the marketplace system broke down. How would people get their food? The logistics change over time, but we've been reliant on them for a very long time now. Over population on a regional level =/= Over population on a global level This is what I've been failing to explain. Thanks, Freak. razz ^_^ It happens. Back to OP: Marriage has become a religious thing. so if one religions refuses to marry a couple dimply due to that who they are, it is completely within that churches right to refuse. You would be asking a priest to preform a sacrilegious act for two other peoples gain. WHY? there are plenty of other people who would be willing to wed the two. In essence: Gay marriage shouldn't be forced on nor denied to anyone. You can't make a priest to go against his religion, nor can you deny two people their rights as a couple just because they are of the same sex. The only people they have the right to force to preside over the marriage are judges (and maybe USN Captains). And since judges are allowed to legally marry two people, I see no problem with that. Navy captains can still legally marry people?
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:07 pm
Requiem in Mortis Fresnel Freak_090 Fresnel Freak_090 Over population on a regional level =/= Over population on a global level This is what I've been failing to explain. Thanks, Freak. razz ^_^ It happens. Back to OP: Marriage has become a religious thing. so if one religions refuses to marry a couple dimply due to that who they are, it is completely within that churches right to refuse. You would be asking a priest to preform a sacrilegious act for two other peoples gain. WHY? there are plenty of other people who would be willing to wed the two. In essence: Gay marriage shouldn't be forced on nor denied to anyone. You can't make a priest to go against his religion, nor can you deny two people their rights as a couple just because they are of the same sex. The only people they have the right to force to preside over the marriage are judges (and maybe USN Captains). And since judges are allowed to legally marry two people, I see no problem with that. Navy captains can still legally marry people? I don't see why not. If you're at sea, you don't have a whole lot of choice. Actually, I think it's any captain, because the captain on a cruise ship can do it too.
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:11 pm
Fresnel Requiem in Mortis Fresnel Freak_090 Fresnel Freak_090 Over population on a regional level =/= Over population on a global level This is what I've been failing to explain. Thanks, Freak. razz ^_^ It happens. Back to OP: Marriage has become a religious thing. so if one religions refuses to marry a couple dimply due to that who they are, it is completely within that churches right to refuse. You would be asking a priest to preform a sacrilegious act for two other peoples gain. WHY? there are plenty of other people who would be willing to wed the two. In essence: Gay marriage shouldn't be forced on nor denied to anyone. You can't make a priest to go against his religion, nor can you deny two people their rights as a couple just because they are of the same sex. The only people they have the right to force to preside over the marriage are judges (and maybe USN Captains). And since judges are allowed to legally marry two people, I see no problem with that. Navy captains can still legally marry people? I don't see why not. If you're at sea, you don't have a whole lot of choice. Actually, I think it's any captain, because the captain on a cruise ship can do it too. Huh. I didn't think they still DID that. Now I know who I want to preside over my marriage. I just need to wait for him to get the rank of Captain.
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:15 pm
Requiem in Mortis Fresnel Requiem in Mortis Fresnel Freak_090 ^_^ It happens. Back to OP: Marriage has become a religious thing. so if one religions refuses to marry a couple dimply due to that who they are, it is completely within that churches right to refuse. You would be asking a priest to preform a sacrilegious act for two other peoples gain. WHY? there are plenty of other people who would be willing to wed the two. In essence: Gay marriage shouldn't be forced on nor denied to anyone. You can't make a priest to go against his religion, nor can you deny two people their rights as a couple just because they are of the same sex. The only people they have the right to force to preside over the marriage are judges (and maybe USN Captains). And since judges are allowed to legally marry two people, I see no problem with that. Navy captains can still legally marry people? I don't see why not. If you're at sea, you don't have a whole lot of choice. Actually, I think it's any captain, because the captain on a cruise ship can do it too. Huh. I didn't think they still DID that. Now I know who I want to preside over my marriage. I just need to wait for him to get the rank of Captain. I think it's the position of captain, not the rank. They have to be the ship's captain, and in international waters, IIRC.
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:58 pm
Fresnel Requiem in Mortis Fresnel Requiem in Mortis Fresnel Freak_090 ^_^ It happens. Back to OP: Marriage has become a religious thing. so if one religions refuses to marry a couple dimply due to that who they are, it is completely within that churches right to refuse. You would be asking a priest to preform a sacrilegious act for two other peoples gain. WHY? there are plenty of other people who would be willing to wed the two. In essence: Gay marriage shouldn't be forced on nor denied to anyone. You can't make a priest to go against his religion, nor can you deny two people their rights as a couple just because they are of the same sex. The only people they have the right to force to preside over the marriage are judges (and maybe USN Captains). And since judges are allowed to legally marry two people, I see no problem with that. Navy captains can still legally marry people? I don't see why not. If you're at sea, you don't have a whole lot of choice. Actually, I think it's any captain, because the captain on a cruise ship can do it too. Huh. I didn't think they still DID that. Now I know who I want to preside over my marriage. I just need to wait for him to get the rank of Captain. I think it's the position of captain, not the rank. They have to be the ship's captain, and in international waters, IIRC. Okay, I've been informed by a Navyman that USN captains have never been allowed to perform marriages. That's what the chaplain is there for. Not sure about cruise ships though... those are usually registered in the Bahamas, so the Brits would know.
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:08 am
owenmarco I honestly don't give a s**t as long as they aren't hitting on me. For all I care, they could perform mass polygamy. same here.
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