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 Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:45 am
Juuyonbi_No_Peko_=3 Shikalee liz_bliz Some one want to exlain something to me though? Fire > Wind > Lightning > Earth > Water > Fire the hell? Lightning beats earth? Rock and dirt doesn't conduct electricity, it acts as a ground, so why would Electricty be effective against it? I would think the order would be somthing more like this: Lightning > Water > Fire > Wind > Earth > Lightning Seeing as any water but purified water conducts electricity like no get out and the earth...well not so much, I would think that would be the strong and weak sides of the lightning coin. Unless of course they changed it around just so that could have Narut0 smack dab in the middle of Sasuke's two affinities, making him the weakness of one and the strength of the other. You've never seen a rock literally explode when hit by lightning? It's only a ground when it's ON the ground. I dont get it DX because there's nothing to get. The reason why rocks explodes when hit by lightning is because it can't conduct electricity and there for the electricty has no where to go and the energy has to go somewhere, and the is in every direction. The same happens with a tree, it simply doesn'y have the surface area to or size to disperse the massive energy from lightning when hit, and sense it doesn't conduct the energy...boom. The earth on the other hand has plenty of surface area and mass to absorb the electricty and the only thing left after a strike is a chuck of glass sometimes, and that is just from the heat of the blast.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:47 am
CrabappleRed liz_bliz Dude, come on I know we don't want to see a big meany go down without a juicy fight but be realistic, Kakashi just relieved him of his heart, a chunk of his right lung, a good amount of blood. Not to mention that fact that the Chidori sends a deadly amount of electrical juice into the 'stabbies' body. Haku was pretty damn good but as soon as she took one to the chest she went down like that *snaps fingers*. Just face it, Kakashi is just that badass. Haku is a boy, dude. 'He', not a 'she'. Also, there's a million ways for Kakuzu to get around having part of his chest removed. Maybe he regenerates like Tsunade, Kabuto and Kyuubi!Naruto. He has no problems dropping an arm, after all. Maybe he's using a shell body the way Sasori did. Hell, it might not even be him! We might have another fake, like the one Kisame used to fight Gai. Lastly, there's no real way to tell how much damage this guy actually has to take before he dies. Look at Hidan: head chopped off and still kicking. Kakuzu is notorious for killing his partners. I'll be severly disapointed (and disbelieving) if he goes down that easy. sorry, Haku is yet another of those characters that is a boy but always mkes me think girl. Hidan is immortal, that's the only reason he's not been kill a long, long imte ago, and seemingly his only major skill. Kakuzu is not immortal.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:01 am
liz_bliz Juuyonbi_No_Peko_=3 Shikalee liz_bliz Some one want to exlain something to me though? Fire > Wind > Lightning > Earth > Water > Fire the hell? Lightning beats earth? Rock and dirt doesn't conduct electricity, it acts as a ground, so why would Electricty be effective against it? I would think the order would be somthing more like this: Lightning > Water > Fire > Wind > Earth > Lightning Seeing as any water but purified water conducts electricity like no get out and the earth...well not so much, I would think that would be the strong and weak sides of the lightning coin. Unless of course they changed it around just so that could have Narut0 smack dab in the middle of Sasuke's two affinities, making him the weakness of one and the strength of the other. You've never seen a rock literally explode when hit by lightning? It's only a ground when it's ON the ground. I dont get it DX because there's nothing to get. The reason why rocks explodes when hit by lightning is because it can't conduct electricity and there for the electricty has no where to go and the energy has to go somewhere, and the is in every direction. The same happens with a tree, it simply doesn'y have the surface area to or size to disperse the massive energy from lightning when hit, and sense it doesn't conduct the energy...boom. The earth on the other hand has plenty of surface area and mass to absorb the electricty and the only thing left after a strike is a chuck of glass sometimes, and that is just from the heat of the blast. so you're saying that Kakuzu should've exploded by Kakashi's Chidori?
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:16 pm
Captain Verd Shikalee Captain Verd It's made of something. Substance or particles. Everything is made of particles. Only if you half-a** your physics class. Energy is not a substance. Chakra is energy. Einstein proved that energy converts to mass, but that they are different. Affinity doesn't have to be directed towards something physical. You can have affinity towards someone because of their personality, which isn't physical, so why would Chakra be any different? I'm a little concerned you're foggy on what affinity means. So then you take it back? biggrin You said particles. Substance. You can't say, "Chakra is to substance as substance is to particles, but chakra isn't particles, but it is an affinity like substance, because it is particles!" It no longer makes sense. Yes, you can have an EMOTIONAL affinity towards someone. Naruto cannot have an AFFINITY to wind because he does not LOVE nor is he PHYSICALLY attached to the wind. You're foggy on sense of logic. You twisted your words and your arguement no longer made sense.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:17 pm
liz_bliz Juuyonbi_No_Peko_=3 Shikalee liz_bliz Some one want to exlain something to me though? Fire > Wind > Lightning > Earth > Water > Fire the hell? Lightning beats earth? Rock and dirt doesn't conduct electricity, it acts as a ground, so why would Electricty be effective against it? I would think the order would be somthing more like this: Lightning > Water > Fire > Wind > Earth > Lightning Seeing as any water but purified water conducts electricity like no get out and the earth...well not so much, I would think that would be the strong and weak sides of the lightning coin. Unless of course they changed it around just so that could have Narut0 smack dab in the middle of Sasuke's two affinities, making him the weakness of one and the strength of the other. You've never seen a rock literally explode when hit by lightning? It's only a ground when it's ON the ground. I dont get it DX because there's nothing to get. The reason why rocks explodes when hit by lightning is because it can't conduct electricity and there for the electricty has no where to go and the energy has to go somewhere, and the is in every direction. The same happens with a tree, it simply doesn'y have the surface area to or size to disperse the massive energy from lightning when hit, and sense it doesn't conduct the energy...boom. The earth on the other hand has plenty of surface area and mass to absorb the electricty and the only thing left after a strike is a chuck of glass sometimes, and that is just from the heat of the blast. Exactly. So there's where Kishimoto got the idea. You were acting like it was impossible. Yes, IMPROBABLE, but not impossible.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:18 pm
liz_bliz CrabappleRed liz_bliz Dude, come on I know we don't want to see a big meany go down without a juicy fight but be realistic, Kakashi just relieved him of his heart, a chunk of his right lung, a good amount of blood. Not to mention that fact that the Chidori sends a deadly amount of electrical juice into the 'stabbies' body. Haku was pretty damn good but as soon as she took one to the chest she went down like that *snaps fingers*. Just face it, Kakashi is just that badass. Haku is a boy, dude. 'He', not a 'she'. Also, there's a million ways for Kakuzu to get around having part of his chest removed. Maybe he regenerates like Tsunade, Kabuto and Kyuubi!Naruto. He has no problems dropping an arm, after all. Maybe he's using a shell body the way Sasori did. Hell, it might not even be him! We might have another fake, like the one Kisame used to fight Gai. Lastly, there's no real way to tell how much damage this guy actually has to take before he dies. Look at Hidan: head chopped off and still kicking. Kakuzu is notorious for killing his partners. I'll be severly disapointed (and disbelieving) if he goes down that easy. sorry, Haku is yet another of those characters that is a boy but always mkes me think girl. Hidan is immortal, that's the only reason he's not been kill a long, long imte ago, and seemingly his only major skill. Kakuzu is not immortal. I disagree with the immortal part for two reasons: 1. He depends on the circle and talisman he wears and 2. No one has stabbed him through the head yet, proving his immortality
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:19 pm
Juuyonbi_No_Peko_=3 so you're saying that Kakuzu should've exploded by Kakashi's Chidori? No. He's made of a steel-like substance, and he was grounded. He conducted the electricity rather well.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:22 pm
Shikalee Captain Verd Shikalee Captain Verd It's made of something. Substance or particles. Everything is made of particles. Only if you half-a** your physics class. Energy is not a substance. Chakra is energy. Einstein proved that energy converts to mass, but that they are different. Affinity doesn't have to be directed towards something physical. You can have affinity towards someone because of their personality, which isn't physical, so why would Chakra be any different? I'm a little concerned you're foggy on what affinity means. So then you take it back? biggrin You said particles. Substance. You can't say, "Chakra is to substance as substance is to particles, but chakra isn't particles, but it is an affinity like substance, because it is particles!" It no longer makes sense. Yes, you can have an EMOTIONAL affinity towards someone. Naruto cannot have an AFFINITY to wind because he does not LOVE nor is he PHYSICALLY attached to the wind. You're foggy on sense of logic. You twisted your words and your arguement no longer made sense. Affinity doesn't always have to be love. It's a natural attraction to something. If chakra isn't a substance, it can be attracted to someone based on their genetic makeup or what have you. However, chakra has to be a substance, because in order to cut something, it has to have mass. If it didn't, the chakra would go right through/be totally useless. I mean, you'd know that if you didn't half a** your physics class, right? lol
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:43 pm
Captain Verd Shikalee Captain Verd Shikalee Captain Verd It's made of something. Substance or particles. Everything is made of particles. Only if you half-a** your physics class. Energy is not a substance. Chakra is energy. Einstein proved that energy converts to mass, but that they are different. Affinity doesn't have to be directed towards something physical. You can have affinity towards someone because of their personality, which isn't physical, so why would Chakra be any different? I'm a little concerned you're foggy on what affinity means. So then you take it back? biggrin You said particles. Substance. You can't say, "Chakra is to substance as substance is to particles, but chakra isn't particles, but it is an affinity like substance, because it is particles!" It no longer makes sense. Yes, you can have an EMOTIONAL affinity towards someone. Naruto cannot have an AFFINITY to wind because he does not LOVE nor is he PHYSICALLY attached to the wind. You're foggy on sense of logic. You twisted your words and your arguement no longer made sense. Affinity doesn't always have to be love. It's a natural attraction to something. If chakra isn't a substance, it can be attracted to someone based on their genetic makeup or what have you. However, chakra has to be a substance, because in order to cut something, it has to have mass. If it didn't, the chakra would go right through/be totally useless. I mean, you'd know that if you didn't half a** your physics class, right? lol This isn't getting anywhere. And it isn't based on genetics at all. You half-assed in logic, obviously. rolleyes Chakra ATTACHES to physical substances, NONPHYSICALLY. It is a force which moves the wind which cuts the leaves. It is a force which excites the air and created electricity. This cannot be proved by science no matter how much you argue with me. Chakra has never been prove to be real. It's rather ridiculous that you insist backing up a FICTIONAL BOOK with SCIENTIFIC FACT.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:48 pm
And in order to stir wind/air/anything, chakra needs to be able to MOVE things. Maybe like, oh I dunno, protons, neutrons, all that good stuff.
Besides, you're trying to back up the story with what you believe as well. I thought you were the one who was talking about hypocrisy, but maybe not.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:53 pm
Shikalee Juuyonbi_No_Peko_=3 so you're saying that Kakuzu should've exploded by Kakashi's Chidori? No. He's made of a steel-like substance, and he was grounded. He conducted the electricity rather well. ...yes, he conducted electricity, but how did Kakashi pierced through him?
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:03 pm
Captain Verd And in order to stir wind/air/anything, chakra needs to be able to MOVE things. Maybe like, oh I dunno, protons, neutrons, all that good stuff. Besides, you're trying to back up the story with what you believe as well. I thought you were the one who was talking about hypocrisy, but maybe not. If you believe in that hunk of bullshit. It logically exists in a hypothetical physical manner. But out protons and neutrons and electrons on an even more molecular level have huge gaps between them. And those sub particles are rumored to disappear from existence quite frequently. No one really knows because it is too small for our technology to say. Assuming that this SCIENTIFIC THEORY is true, nothing is really "physical" in the way physicality is truly defined. In a large way these particles interact but in a small level it's like they were never there. For you to, again, argue a CARTOON with scientific fact, AND attempt to back up something YOU DON'T EVEN BELIEVE IN with your precious "scientific fact" JUST to prove someone wrong. You're an immature brat and I'm two inches from never coming back here. You're such a b***h a lot of the time. And what makes me hate it more is that there is a good side of you.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:04 pm
Juuyonbi_No_Peko_=3 Shikalee Juuyonbi_No_Peko_=3 so you're saying that Kakuzu should've exploded by Kakashi's Chidori? No. He's made of a steel-like substance, and he was grounded. He conducted the electricity rather well. ...yes, he conducted electricity, but how did Kakashi pierced through him? I'm assuming he wasn't fully metal. surprised His hands were still gray, suggesting it's a gradual transformation.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:53 pm
Shikalee Juuyonbi_No_Peko_=3 Shikalee Juuyonbi_No_Peko_=3 so you're saying that Kakuzu should've exploded by Kakashi's Chidori? No. He's made of a steel-like substance, and he was grounded. He conducted the electricity rather well. ...yes, he conducted electricity, but how did Kakashi pierced through him? I'm assuming he wasn't fully metal. surprised His hands were still gray, suggesting it's a gradual transformation. or probably Chidori/Raikiri is an actual sword, it doesnt necessary ''electrocutes'' the foe, it just pierces through him...
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:09 pm
Shikalee Captain Verd And in order to stir wind/air/anything, chakra needs to be able to MOVE things. Maybe like, oh I dunno, protons, neutrons, all that good stuff. Besides, you're trying to back up the story with what you believe as well. I thought you were the one who was talking about hypocrisy, but maybe not. If you believe in that hunk of bullshit. It logically exists in a hypothetical physical manner. But out protons and neutrons and electrons on an even more molecular level have huge gaps between them. And those sub particles are rumored to disappear from existence quite frequently. No one really knows because it is too small for our technology to say. Assuming that this SCIENTIFIC THEORY is true, nothing is really "physical" in the way physicality is truly defined. In a large way these particles interact but in a small level it's like they were never there. For you to, again, argue a CARTOON with scientific fact, AND attempt to back up something YOU DON'T EVEN BELIEVE IN with your precious "scientific fact" JUST to prove someone wrong. You're an immature brat and I'm two inches from never coming back here. You're such a b***h a lot of the time. And what makes me hate it more is that there is a good side of you. This is like trying to teach basic chemistry to a five year old. Gawd, I'll just let you see a special on the Discovery Channel or something gonk Wow, that'd be a riot. You know, there are actually people who don't come here often because they don't want to have to put up with um... you? Yeah, it's not me they're avoiding, babe. biggrin As for immature, I mean, think what you want, but at least I don't have a cartoon character for a "security blanket". Lol, anyways, don't bother responding to this, because I don't wanna have to explain how the universe works to you anymore. But if you do, just know that I'm not going to respond. Thanks. wink
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