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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:59 am
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Fresnel Ubasti Fresnel Shrantic "5.7 “cop killer” rifle bullets that" Weren't they designed to be used by the Five-seveN P90? Which is officially classified as a pistol, and can be conceal carried? No no, it's a BULLET. Seriously, I asked an FN rep whether it was considered a rifle bullet or a pistol bullet, and he was hardlining the "a bullet is a bullet, they have no specific class" bullshit. Couldn't get a straight answer out of him. Well, why do they have to categorize it? Because everyone else is categorized and they don't have the right to be special. Bullshit. Just because most choose to categorize rounds doesn't mean everyone has to. If they aren't sure what the 5.7mm round is, or just don't want to slap a category on, that's fine. It's okay to not know if a bullet is a rifle or pistol round.
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:29 am
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Ubasti Fresnel Ubasti Fresnel Shrantic "5.7 “cop killer” rifle bullets that" Weren't they designed to be used by the Five-seveN P90? Which is officially classified as a pistol, and can be conceal carried? No no, it's a BULLET. Seriously, I asked an FN rep whether it was considered a rifle bullet or a pistol bullet, and he was hardlining the "a bullet is a bullet, they have no specific class" bullshit. Couldn't get a straight answer out of him. Well, why do they have to categorize it? Because everyone else is categorized and they don't have the right to be special. Bullshit. Just because most choose to categorize rounds doesn't mean everyone has to. If they aren't sure what the 5.7mm round is, or just don't want to slap a category on, that's fine. It's okay to not know if a bullet is a rifle or pistol round. Question: can you name any spitzer pistol bullets except that retarded Belgian 9mm AP round?
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:27 pm
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:36 pm
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Fresnel Ubasti Fresnel Ubasti Fresnel Shrantic "5.7 “cop killer” rifle bullets that" Weren't they designed to be used by the Five-seveN P90? Which is officially classified as a pistol, and can be conceal carried? No no, it's a BULLET. Seriously, I asked an FN rep whether it was considered a rifle bullet or a pistol bullet, and he was hardlining the "a bullet is a bullet, they have no specific class" bullshit. Couldn't get a straight answer out of him. Well, why do they have to categorize it? Because everyone else is categorized and they don't have the right to be special. Bullshit. Just because most choose to categorize rounds doesn't mean everyone has to. If they aren't sure what the 5.7mm round is, or just don't want to slap a category on, that's fine. It's okay to not know if a bullet is a rifle or pistol round. Question: can you name any spitzer pistol bullets except that retarded Belgian 9mm AP round? 5.7. 7.62TOK is a spitzer with the tip ground down. It wouldn't surprise me if there were a sptzer available (Actually, if you handload you CAN load near any 7.62 in it as long as you don't exceed maximum OAL. There is a wildcat in the works of a .223 in a sabot to get hyper-velocities out of it)
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:48 pm
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uryu ishida Fresnel Ubasti Fresnel Ubasti Well, why do they have to categorize it? Because everyone else is categorized and they don't have the right to be special. Bullshit. Just because most choose to categorize rounds doesn't mean everyone has to. If they aren't sure what the 5.7mm round is, or just don't want to slap a category on, that's fine. It's okay to not know if a bullet is a rifle or pistol round. Question: can you name any spitzer pistol bullets except that retarded Belgian 9mm AP round? 5.7. 7.62TOK is a spitzer with the tip ground down. It wouldn't surprise me if there were a sptzer available (Actually, if you handload you CAN load near any 7.62 in it as long as you don't exceed maximum OAL. There is a wildcat in the works of a .223 in a sabot to get hyper-velocities out of it) So you're saying 5.7 is a pistol bullet then? I thought it was unclassified.
Eh, that's like filing a .22LR to be spitzer. It's done, but it was never intended to be that way.
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:09 pm
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Fresnel uryu ishida Fresnel Ubasti Fresnel Ubasti Well, why do they have to categorize it? Because everyone else is categorized and they don't have the right to be special. Bullshit. Just because most choose to categorize rounds doesn't mean everyone has to. If they aren't sure what the 5.7mm round is, or just don't want to slap a category on, that's fine. It's okay to not know if a bullet is a rifle or pistol round. Question: can you name any spitzer pistol bullets except that retarded Belgian 9mm AP round? 5.7. 7.62TOK is a spitzer with the tip ground down. It wouldn't surprise me if there were a sptzer available (Actually, if you handload you CAN load near any 7.62 in it as long as you don't exceed maximum OAL. There is a wildcat in the works of a .223 in a sabot to get hyper-velocities out of it) So you're saying 5.7 is a pistol bullet then? I thought it was unclassified. Eh, that's like filing a .22LR to be spitzer. It's done, but it was never intended to be that way. 5.7 was specifically design for BOTH. It IS NEITHER. It was not solely made for one or the other. It was designed for BOTH. It's a pistol AND rifle bullet. It is simply a bullet of 5.7mm diameter.
It's still a spitzer. And the wildcat is specifically that way, though I wonder what they'll name it. .223LASER?
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:39 pm
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uryu ishida Fresnel uryu ishida Fresnel Ubasti Bullshit. Just because most choose to categorize rounds doesn't mean everyone has to. If they aren't sure what the 5.7mm round is, or just don't want to slap a category on, that's fine. It's okay to not know if a bullet is a rifle or pistol round. Question: can you name any spitzer pistol bullets except that retarded Belgian 9mm AP round? 5.7. 7.62TOK is a spitzer with the tip ground down. It wouldn't surprise me if there were a sptzer available (Actually, if you handload you CAN load near any 7.62 in it as long as you don't exceed maximum OAL. There is a wildcat in the works of a .223 in a sabot to get hyper-velocities out of it) So you're saying 5.7 is a pistol bullet then? I thought it was unclassified. Eh, that's like filing a .22LR to be spitzer. It's done, but it was never intended to be that way. 5.7 was specifically design for BOTH. It IS NEITHER. It was not solely made for one or the other. It was designed for BOTH. It's a pistol AND rifle bullet. It is simply a bullet of 5.7mm diameter. It's still a spitzer. And the wildcat is specifically that way, though I wonder what they'll name it. .223LASER? I think that's taken by the necked-down .50BMG. ".22 Laser". Damn cool name though. Anywho, it's not a production round, so I personally don't think it counts.
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:53 pm
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:08 pm
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:30 pm
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Desert_Fox_Rommel Not necessarily a firearm noob, but I feel like sharing this and can't be bothered to make a thread for it. On youtube I posted a response on a video saying that most German citizens in WWII were not members of the Nazi party. Quote: dont switch the subject....i thought about the germans in second war world two....yes moust of them were nazis like it or not second world war two stare
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Sometimes I cry for humanity.
Anyway, 5.7 is a bottle necked pistol cartridge. Like the 7.62x25, or SIG .357. Not a rifle round per se.
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:40 pm
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:55 pm
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:58 pm
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OberFeldwebel Desert_Fox_Rommel Not necessarily a firearm noob, but I feel like sharing this and can't be bothered to make a thread for it. On youtube I posted a response on a video saying that most German citizens in WWII were not members of the Nazi party. Quote: dont switch the subject....i thought about the germans in second war world two....yes moust of them were nazis like it or not second world war two stare emo Sometimes I cry for humanity. Anyway, 5.7 is a bottle necked pistol cartridge. Like the 7.62x25, or SIG .357. Not a rifle round per se. Me too
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:33 am
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Fresnel ArmasTermin I think the only difference between a rifle cartridge and a pistol cartridge is what the people that made it call it. If they don't set it as one or the other, then it's just a bullet. I mean we all know size doesn't have anything to do with it. .22 LR is a rifle cartridge and 500 S&W is a pistol cartridge. And shape doesn't. .357 SIG is a pistol cartridge, .475 Linebaugh is a rifle cartridge (isn't it?). It's not like it's important to classify it, except for 18-year-olds that could buy "rifle" ammo for a PS90 and not "pistol" ammo for a Five-seveN, even though they're the same thing. I tried to bullshit my way into a box of .45 by saying it was for an Auto-Ordnance Thompson. They didn't bite. Wonder how the law sees 5.7? Worked when I needed .40 for my Kel Tec. Then again I do work at Wal Mart.
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