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 Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:10 am
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Oh gawd...teh gangsterness!! *TWITCHTWITCHCEZURECHOKEDIE* rofl
@ Rellik San:
Hehehe I just had a thought of how funny it would be if I got laid off a job and was really mad (which really doesn't happen but IF) I went in to my last day of work completely Gothed out......that sounds fun xD
xStephanx Ashitaka-Mononokes_Love By elitist, I mean that I am not a babybat. And, I am extremely against those who claim to be a big part of the sub-culture, yet fail to understand the basic nature of the ideal. If there is, as was said before, a babybat who had no idea what he/she was doing, and that was his/her only crime to his/her claim, then that is fine. What bugs me is the "Mansonites" who claim "goth" and yet, have never even heard of "The Cure," "Bauhaus," Siouxie and the Banshees," or "Joy Division." In other words, the goth "Big Four." Before I Was goth, I had listened to two of these bands and loved them. Then as I progressed into the "scene" and got farther and deeper in, I found the others. And I have found many amazing goth bands... All of which put most mainstream music to shame. And it thoroughly angers me, when people claim to be something that not only are they not in compliance with thier claims, but they have no knowledge, thereof. Thank you... -Wyntre I'm put you more into the middle ground if you're not harsh on the n00bs then.
Really? I thought his explanation was very elitist in that he's very knowledgeable and all that. I thought elitist doesn't necessarily mean they're rude toward everyone who's new or anything Oo;; They're just a very distinct class of their own, ne? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
@ Blackrose Kaire:
I truly don't blame you at all. In the right mood I would've snapped and started something too (though I feel you didn't start it...). I do not like that sort of negativity toward others either. (I know your post wasn't aimed toward me I just wanted to let you know I feel the situation was completely understandable) |
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:10 am
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:13 am
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Blackrose Kaire Look Sinister Kun Fu, all I'm trying to say is that you could have gotten your point across to Shadowlotus without being a jerk and going on about how you've "Been into goth music longer than anyone in this guild" and how you "Know more about goth rock than she ever will" THAT is what made you look elitist.
Again, that wasn't me being elitist, that was me stating a fact. I've been listening to it longer than most of the people here have even been alive. How are you going to try and construe that as elitism. I wasn't saying I was better than anyone else, I was trying to prove a point in the argument I was responding to.
Blackrose Kaire The SAME WAY I could have tried to get get my point across to you without making an a** of myself and being a jerk towards you,and I'm willing to admit I was wrong in how I acted and that I didn't do things the right way,and I'm also willing to apolgize. I agree with the fact you shouldn't have to dress and act a certain way to be seen as goth,I simply did not agree with the way you acted. I'm not trying to initiate another argument with you,and ruin xStephanx's thread anymore than I already have,I'm simply trying to calmly explain my reason instead of just throwing around pointless insults with you this time,but I get the feeling your not the type to be reasoned with.. Now I am sorry for the way I acted towards you,so let's just let things be.
It's cool. Thank you. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:57 am
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Sinister Kung Fu xStephanx Hey Sinister Kung Fu, Now as I said, you're claiming to be the oldest and most experienced person here. Make good on that and keep these flame wars to PM or something. How are you going to try and blame this on me? I'm not the one who started flaming people. I was participating in the discussion at hand, and made what is in my opinion a very valid point. A point, I may add, which the person I was initially addressing has completely avoided responding to.
And I agree with your point, people don't have to wear a uniform to listen to Goth rock, death rock, EBM or any other associated genre.
Its just the execution that bothered me. You two went at it hardcore. However, I do accept you've both said it was OTT, and I respect that, so I guess that's that. |
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:23 pm
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:42 pm
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:08 pm
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:44 am
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:03 am
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:44 am
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:45 am
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:42 pm
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GilAskan spooky_sez This has slowly but gradually turned into another Labels Thread. It's almost unavoidable. At least it hasn't exploded into a flame war of- "Goth is a state of mind!" "That's bullshit spread by people who aren't goth but want to be. Goth is about the music." "That's bullshit spread by people who don't have the state of mind, so they defend themselves with a music genre." "Now you're just trying to cover your a**." Et' cetera.
I was tempted to ask what exactly is this state of mind, but I decided against it. |
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-Resurrected Writer- Crew
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:05 pm
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xStephanx GilAskan spooky_sez This has slowly but gradually turned into another Labels Thread. It's almost unavoidable. At least it hasn't exploded into a flame war of- "Goth is a state of mind!" "That's bullshit spread by people who aren't goth but want to be. Goth is about the music." "That's bullshit spread by people who don't have the state of mind, so they defend themselves with a music genre." "Now you're just trying to cover your a**." Et' cetera. I was tempted to ask what exactly is this state of mind, but I decided against it.
*Shouldershrug* I don't agree with the notion of a state of mind. In my opinion, that almost makes it seem like goths are universal in thought - a collective.
But as Gil has said, there can sometimes be a lot of conflict for those who are strongly for one side or another, so recently I've been much less aggressive with my opinion on the matter. |
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-Resurrected Writer- Crew
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:22 pm
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