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 Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:21 pm
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-InsertEgoHere- Liger Blademaster Banryu ...and which also lacks a proper search function. Dx Good god, that always drives me nuts... And yeah, I know where DMA pulls their stuff from, I've seen it... It's just... some of these sources I find to be a little.... inconsistent in credibility, shall we say? >.0? For instance: Digimon Dawn/Dusk. While I loved the game, I think whoever designed the Digivolution chains was smoking something, they make so little sense (well, some, not all, to be fair). -InsertEgoHere- Liger And Unexpected takes all the results that could possibly occur from a single digimon (as referred to by DMA) and then uses dice to determine how high of a rank (normal, limited, restricted, etc) the digimon can go. and then use number generation to decide which one the tamer gets, that way there is zero bias opinion in what the person gets.
I like DMA and it's gotten the guild by so far with a legitimate system, given the number of devil's advocates are somewhat low in number. Might I ask were you get your "sources" from?
Oh don't get the wrong idea, I think DMA is great. It and its affiliates ARE most of my sources. I just... I think that I look at the evolutions in a different way than the DMA staff do, like I look more at attributes and when Digimon were created and stuff for their genetics and chains and stuff.
...so with the whole random thing, are you telling me that I run the risk of getting like a Numemon or something (from my Betamon) if I don't do a random evo...? Dx |
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:24 pm
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lief_7 Blademaster Banryu -InsertEgoHere- Liger Blademaster Banryu Ah yeah, I read about that, but I don't quite get it. :0 So what, it's a method of evolving to irregular guys, but you choose them at random....? Wut? Afraid I don't quite grasp it. Mutation though, yeah, I've seen that... that's like what happens in Digimon world where like a Seadramon shifts into an Airdramon or something. Hah, my girlfriend had that happen, then her Airdramon immediately turned into Phoenixmon. =D It sounded pretty sick.
No but actually I was talking about the guys that are considered 'official' according to DMA, like MasterTyrannomon -> Goldramon and anythingnotnamedTankdramon -> Darkdramon. -InsertEgoHere- Liger And Unexpected takes all the results that could possibly occur from a single digimon (as referred to by DMA) and then uses dice to determine how high of a rank (normal, limited, restricted, etc) the digimon can go. and then use number generation to decide which one the tamer gets, that way there is zero bias opinion in what the person gets.
If it makes you feel any better i've got like 14 or 15 digimon and i've only had to unexpect once and i got what i wanted. I mean it's call unexpectant so you get something you didn't expect so you don't get a choice in it. it's kind of like when Greymon digivolved into Skull Greymon (bad example since that was dark digivolving but..) he didn't expect him to do that but it happened. also, and will argue this as long as i can, digimon don't have lines technically they are a collection of data and can become anything due to any number of cercimstances, the ones listed on DMA are simply the ones that have been observed up until now. no one says Agumon has to go to greymon or Growlmon or anyone on that list, that's just the things he has been seen going to. Digimon are not robots beings with a set path, they grow up and change dependent on choices made during their lives. Yes they are programs but they are not programed for one thing, they have AI meaning each one is different and unique other wise the show would always have the same lines for every digimon. Anyways that's why Unexpectant is a great system and i think it really adds some fun and mystery to your digimon, i figure someone who likes unusual digimon would appreciate that.
Hmm.... that's an interesting perspective on it. I hadn't considered it entirely like that... And granted, I think there should be SOME flexibility with digivolution and stuff, but maybe I look at it a little too seriously and rigidly, hehe... rofl |
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:27 pm
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Blademaster Banryu lief_7 Blademaster Banryu -InsertEgoHere- Liger Blademaster Banryu Ah yeah, I read about that, but I don't quite get it. :0 So what, it's a method of evolving to irregular guys, but you choose them at random....? Wut? Afraid I don't quite grasp it. Mutation though, yeah, I've seen that... that's like what happens in Digimon world where like a Seadramon shifts into an Airdramon or something. Hah, my girlfriend had that happen, then her Airdramon immediately turned into Phoenixmon. =D It sounded pretty sick.
No but actually I was talking about the guys that are considered 'official' according to DMA, like MasterTyrannomon -> Goldramon and anythingnotnamedTankdramon -> Darkdramon. -InsertEgoHere- Liger And Unexpected takes all the results that could possibly occur from a single digimon (as referred to by DMA) and then uses dice to determine how high of a rank (normal, limited, restricted, etc) the digimon can go. and then use number generation to decide which one the tamer gets, that way there is zero bias opinion in what the person gets.
If it makes you feel any better i've got like 14 or 15 digimon and i've only had to unexpect once and i got what i wanted. I mean it's call unexpectant so you get something you didn't expect so you don't get a choice in it. it's kind of like when Greymon digivolved into Skull Greymon (bad example since that was dark digivolving but..) he didn't expect him to do that but it happened. also, and will argue this as long as i can, digimon don't have lines technically they are a collection of data and can become anything due to any number of cercimstances, the ones listed on DMA are simply the ones that have been observed up until now. no one says Agumon has to go to greymon or Growlmon or anyone on that list, that's just the things he has been seen going to. Digimon are not robots beings with a set path, they grow up and change dependent on choices made during their lives. Yes they are programs but they are not programed for one thing, they have AI meaning each one is different and unique other wise the show would always have the same lines for every digimon. Anyways that's why Unexpectant is a great system and i think it really adds some fun and mystery to your digimon, i figure someone who likes unusual digimon would appreciate that.
Hmm.... that's an interesting perspective on it. I hadn't considered it entirely like that... And granted, I think there should be SOME flexibility with digivolution and stuff, but maybe I look at it a little too seriously and rigidly, hehe... rofl
it's kind of a hard concept but it's something i finally realized after years of playing the games and watching the show and then being here and DMA the only logical thing is that in reality any digimon might be able to go into any other digimon at any given point but in DTI we follow the known ones which are the ones listed on DMA, so until that changes that's what we have to accept weather we think it's right or not. |
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:27 pm
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:29 pm
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lief_7 Blademaster Banryu lief_7 Blademaster Banryu -InsertEgoHere- Liger Well DMA is created based off cross referencing games, tv shows, cards, etc. So truth be told, I'm not quite sure how to make it clear to you, but I can say that each placement is proven through some resource or another. In other words, DMA is just another wiki that looks a bit prettier. -InsertEgoHere- Liger And Unexpected takes all the results that could possibly occur from a single digimon (as referred to by DMA) and then uses dice to determine how high of a rank (normal, limited, restricted, etc) the digimon can go. and then use number generation to decide which one the tamer gets, that way there is zero bias opinion in what the person gets.
If it makes you feel any better i've got like 14 or 15 digimon and i've only had to unexpect once and i got what i wanted. I mean it's call unexpectant so you get something you didn't expect so you don't get a choice in it. it's kind of like when Greymon digivolved into Skull Greymon (bad example since that was dark digivolving but..) he didn't expect him to do that but it happened. also, and will argue this as long as i can, digimon don't have lines technically they are a collection of data and can become anything due to any number of cercimstances, the ones listed on DMA are simply the ones that have been observed up until now. no one says Agumon has to go to greymon or Growlmon or anyone on that list, that's just the things he has been seen going to. Digimon are not robots beings with a set path, they grow up and change dependent on choices made during their lives. Yes they are programs but they are not programed for one thing, they have AI meaning each one is different and unique other wise the show would always have the same lines for every digimon. Anyways that's why Unexpectant is a great system and i think it really adds some fun and mystery to your digimon, i figure someone who likes unusual digimon would appreciate that.
it's kind of a hard concept but it's something i finally realized after years of playing the games and watching the show and then being here and DMA the only logical thing is that in reality any digimon might be able to go into any other digimon at any given point but in DTI we follow the known ones which are the ones listed on DMA, so until that changes that's what we have to accept weather we think it's right or not.
....that's pretty much what my girlfriend's been telling me about the personal digivolution guide I've been making. xD The part about anything turning into anything else, that is. =w= |
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:30 pm
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Blademaster Banryu lief_7 Blademaster Banryu lief_7 Blademaster Banryu ...and which also lacks a proper search function. Dx Good god, that always drives me nuts... And yeah, I know where DMA pulls their stuff from, I've seen it... It's just... some of these sources I find to be a little.... inconsistent in credibility, shall we say? >.0? For instance: Digimon Dawn/Dusk. While I loved the game, I think whoever designed the Digivolution chains was smoking something, they make so little sense (well, some, not all, to be fair). ....buuut you also don't get to choose what you get....? That seems a little odd to me. :0 Suppose I want something that's actually lower-ranked, but I roll something higher? And I don't get a choice in the matter? Dunno if I like the sound of that... hopefully I can avoid resorting to that. e___X
If it makes you feel any better i've got like 14 or 15 digimon and i've only had to unexpect once and i got what i wanted. I mean it's call unexpectant so you get something you didn't expect so you don't get a choice in it. it's kind of like when Greymon digivolved into Skull Greymon (bad example since that was dark digivolving but..) he didn't expect him to do that but it happened. also, and will argue this as long as i can, digimon don't have lines technically they are a collection of data and can become anything due to any number of cercimstances, the ones listed on DMA are simply the ones that have been observed up until now. no one says Agumon has to go to greymon or Growlmon or anyone on that list, that's just the things he has been seen going to. Digimon are not robots beings with a set path, they grow up and change dependent on choices made during their lives. Yes they are programs but they are not programed for one thing, they have AI meaning each one is different and unique other wise the show would always have the same lines for every digimon. Anyways that's why Unexpectant is a great system and i think it really adds some fun and mystery to your digimon, i figure someone who likes unusual digimon would appreciate that.
it's kind of a hard concept but it's something i finally realized after years of playing the games and watching the show and then being here and DMA the only logical thing is that in reality any digimon might be able to go into any other digimon at any given point but in DTI we follow the known ones which are the ones listed on DMA, so until that changes that's what we have to accept weather we think it's right or not.
cool, well good luck to you, and who knows maybe Bandai will think you're right and add some of them one day. |
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:34 pm
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lief_7 Blademaster Banryu lief_7 Blademaster Banryu lief_7 Blademaster Banryu ...and which also lacks a proper search function. Dx Good god, that always drives me nuts... And yeah, I know where DMA pulls their stuff from, I've seen it... It's just... some of these sources I find to be a little.... inconsistent in credibility, shall we say? >.0? For instance: Digimon Dawn/Dusk. While I loved the game, I think whoever designed the Digivolution chains was smoking something, they make so little sense (well, some, not all, to be fair). ....buuut you also don't get to choose what you get....? That seems a little odd to me. :0 Suppose I want something that's actually lower-ranked, but I roll something higher? And I don't get a choice in the matter? Dunno if I like the sound of that... hopefully I can avoid resorting to that. e___X
If it makes you feel any better i've got like 14 or 15 digimon and i've only had to unexpect once and i got what i wanted. I mean it's call unexpectant so you get something you didn't expect so you don't get a choice in it. it's kind of like when Greymon digivolved into Skull Greymon (bad example since that was dark digivolving but..) he didn't expect him to do that but it happened. also, and will argue this as long as i can, digimon don't have lines technically they are a collection of data and can become anything due to any number of cercimstances, the ones listed on DMA are simply the ones that have been observed up until now. no one says Agumon has to go to greymon or Growlmon or anyone on that list, that's just the things he has been seen going to. Digimon are not robots beings with a set path, they grow up and change dependent on choices made during their lives. Yes they are programs but they are not programed for one thing, they have AI meaning each one is different and unique other wise the show would always have the same lines for every digimon. Anyways that's why Unexpectant is a great system and i think it really adds some fun and mystery to your digimon, i figure someone who likes unusual digimon would appreciate that.
it's kind of a hard concept but it's something i finally realized after years of playing the games and watching the show and then being here and DMA the only logical thing is that in reality any digimon might be able to go into any other digimon at any given point but in DTI we follow the known ones which are the ones listed on DMA, so until that changes that's what we have to accept weather we think it's right or not.
cool, well good luck to you, and who knows maybe Bandai will think you're right and add some of them one day.
*sigh* Man, I don't even care if Bandai thinks I'm right. x___X I just want them to get consistent with Digimon evolutions and stuff. Dx
...oh wait, that's what you meant, isn't it. biggrin '''' hahaha.
To be fair, I suppose there would be consistency in inconsistency. xD |
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:35 pm
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:41 pm
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Blademaster Banryu lief_7 Blademaster Banryu lief_7 Blademaster Banryu Hmm.... that's an interesting perspective on it. I hadn't considered it entirely like that... And granted, I think there should be SOME flexibility with digivolution and stuff, but maybe I look at it a little too seriously and rigidly, hehe... rofl
it's kind of a hard concept but it's something i finally realized after years of playing the games and watching the show and then being here and DMA the only logical thing is that in reality any digimon might be able to go into any other digimon at any given point but in DTI we follow the known ones which are the ones listed on DMA, so until that changes that's what we have to accept weather we think it's right or not.
cool, well good luck to you, and who knows maybe Bandai will think you're right and add some of them one day.
...oh wait, that's what you meant, isn't it. biggrin '''' hahaha.
To be fair, I suppose there would be consistency in inconsistency. xD
but to be honest. I don't mind the new seasons once I got the concept lief just posted down. I like to think there are tendencies for digimon the odds that an agumon turns into a Wargreymon is 50% but you cant tell me that every wargreymon was once an Agumon. who knows maybe it was an armadillomon. Point being I like the fact that it is random. it makes pokemon and digimon totally different. Which is fine by me. I like pokemon, but I would hate to see digimon become pokemon. So an agumon becoming an beelzemon is fine by me as long as there is a system dictating the rules that is free and fair. Sorry fr my mini rant and if it didnt make sense I apologize. I speak in rants. |
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:41 pm
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-InsertEgoHere- Liger Blademaster Banryu ...so with the whole random thing, are you telling me that I run the risk of getting like a Numemon or something (from my Betamon) if I don't do a random evo...? Dx
No well Numemon isn't BAD, per se, (Monzaemon is normal and very strong), I just don't like him very much is all. x___x....I'm wondering why Seadramon is considered normal and Airdramon is not, considering Betamon digivolved into both of them in the same source.
EDIT @ Zadok:
Actually, I haven't dedicatedly watched any season since 3. sweatdrop What can I say, I just didn't like any of them that much. ^.^ I didn't like the lack of partners in 4, I didn't like the worse animation and stupid characters (LOLMarcus) in 5, and the concept of 6 just doesn't appeal to me that much. And I get what you're saying about the Pokemon and Digimon and I agree that I don't want one to be the other, but you have to look at the fact that one is much more successful than the other... and I think part of that is that Pokemon is just done more professionally than Digimon is. I mean, look at all the mistranslations and grammar errors... there were hundreds in Dawn/Dusk's story, it drove me nuts! They just don't take it as seriuosly as Nintendo and Gamefreak did with Pokemon, I think. That's just from a business standpoint, of course... I love them both a lot for what they are and what they have different from each other.
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:54 pm
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Blademaster Banryu -InsertEgoHere- Liger Blademaster Banryu ...so with the whole random thing, are you telling me that I run the risk of getting like a Numemon or something (from my Betamon) if I don't do a random evo...? Dx
EDIT @ Zadok:
Actually, I haven't dedicatedly watched any season since 3. sweatdrop What can I say, I just didn't like any of them that much. ^.^ I didn't like the lack of partners in 4, I didn't like the worse animation and stupid characters (LOLMarcus) in 5, and the concept of 6 just doesn't appeal to me that much. And I get what you're saying about the Pokemon and Digimon and I agree that I don't want one to be the other, but you have to look at the fact that one is much more successful than the other... and I think part of that is that Pokemon is just done more professionally than Digimon is. I mean, look at all the mistranslations and grammar errors... there were hundreds in Dawn/Dusk's story, it drove me nuts! They just don't take it as seriuosly as Nintendo and Gamefreak did with Pokemon, I think. That's just from a business standpoint, of course... I love them both a lot for what they are and what they have different from each other.
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:58 pm
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Zadok the 28th Blademaster Banryu -InsertEgoHere- Liger Blademaster Banryu ...so with the whole random thing, are you telling me that I run the risk of getting like a Numemon or something (from my Betamon) if I don't do a random evo...? Dx
EDIT @ Zadok:
Actually, I haven't dedicatedly watched any season since 3. sweatdrop What can I say, I just didn't like any of them that much. ^.^ I didn't like the lack of partners in 4, I didn't like the worse animation and stupid characters (LOLMarcus) in 5, and the concept of 6 just doesn't appeal to me that much. And I get what you're saying about the Pokemon and Digimon and I agree that I don't want one to be the other, but you have to look at the fact that one is much more successful than the other... and I think part of that is that Pokemon is just done more professionally than Digimon is. I mean, look at all the mistranslations and grammar errors... there were hundreds in Dawn/Dusk's story, it drove me nuts! They just don't take it as seriuosly as Nintendo and Gamefreak did with Pokemon, I think. That's just from a business standpoint, of course... I love them both a lot for what they are and what they have different from each other.
Buisness stand point you couldnt be more right. Pokemon blows digimon out of the water especially in america. -It is closer in Japan and Korea but not by enough to make up for the loss in the US- That being said both companies also ran themselves differently regaurdless of systems. And as much as you or I hate them 4, 5, 6, and 7 have all existed and are or will all be implemented in this guild and we cant keep that from happening I just accept Digimon as a whole and the parts that I dislike I stay away from but they are still digimon so they get representation just like the rest. That's my opinion on the matter.
Honestly I just think that Digimon wasn't as successful in America because Bandai didn't put forth the effort into making sure it would really succeed. :I Maybe at first, but after a while they got sloppy and stopped sending stuff to us, and that makes me sad. Dx For shame, Bandai, for shame... ;~; (Also, I didn't say I hated 4-7, I'm just not a fan and stuff-- wait, what? did you say 7? We're on season 7 already?! Holyyyy crap on a shitbiscuit.... that was quick...)
But yeah, there are bits you like and bits you don't like, and you just stay away from the bits you don't care for. xD That's how I roll too~ |
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:58 pm
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:02 pm
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Blademaster Banryu Zadok the 28th Blademaster Banryu -InsertEgoHere- Liger Blademaster Banryu ...so with the whole random thing, are you telling me that I run the risk of getting like a Numemon or something (from my Betamon) if I don't do a random evo...? Dx
EDIT @ Zadok:
Actually, I haven't dedicatedly watched any season since 3. sweatdrop What can I say, I just didn't like any of them that much. ^.^ I didn't like the lack of partners in 4, I didn't like the worse animation and stupid characters (LOLMarcus) in 5, and the concept of 6 just doesn't appeal to me that much. And I get what you're saying about the Pokemon and Digimon and I agree that I don't want one to be the other, but you have to look at the fact that one is much more successful than the other... and I think part of that is that Pokemon is just done more professionally than Digimon is. I mean, look at all the mistranslations and grammar errors... there were hundreds in Dawn/Dusk's story, it drove me nuts! They just don't take it as seriuosly as Nintendo and Gamefreak did with Pokemon, I think. That's just from a business standpoint, of course... I love them both a lot for what they are and what they have different from each other.
Buisness stand point you couldnt be more right. Pokemon blows digimon out of the water especially in america. -It is closer in Japan and Korea but not by enough to make up for the loss in the US- That being said both companies also ran themselves differently regaurdless of systems. And as much as you or I hate them 4, 5, 6, and 7 have all existed and are or will all be implemented in this guild and we cant keep that from happening I just accept Digimon as a whole and the parts that I dislike I stay away from but they are still digimon so they get representation just like the rest. That's my opinion on the matter.
But yeah, there are bits you like and bits you don't like, and you just stay away from the bits you don't care for. xD That's how I roll too~
I dont hate them either, it was a figure of speech |
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:02 pm
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