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 Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:13 am
I'm going to agree with Crabapple in saying that the curse seal kills. I think curses would work no matter the will of the person, except in very extreme situations. I think if Neji was dying from curse seal-itis, he wouldn't have the willpower to want to seek revenge. He's very devoted to the house, and has kind of accepted how his father died as an honor to the house. I doubt he'd try to seEk VeNjInSs if he had to die for some reason.
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:20 pm
Captain Verd I'm going to agree with Crabapple in saying that the curse seal kills. I think curses would work no matter the will of the person, except in very extreme situations. I think if Neji was dying from curse seal-itis, he wouldn't have the willpower to want to seek revenge. He's very devoted to the house, and has kind of accepted how his father died as an honor to the house. I doubt he'd try to seEk VeNjInSs if he had to die for some reason. It wouldn't be called a curse then. Neji has a longer list of reasons to kill the main branch than the few reasons not to.
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:44 pm
Shikalee Captain Verd I'm going to agree with Crabapple in saying that the curse seal kills. I think curses would work no matter the will of the person, except in very extreme situations. I think if Neji was dying from curse seal-itis, he wouldn't have the willpower to want to seek revenge. He's very devoted to the house, and has kind of accepted how his father died as an honor to the house. I doubt he'd try to seEk VeNjInSs if he had to die for some reason. It wouldn't be called a curse then. Neji has a longer list of reasons to kill the main branch than the few reasons not to. Why wouldn't it be called a curse? What makes you say that? Neji is extremely loyal to his family.
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:06 pm
Captain Verd Shikalee Captain Verd I'm going to agree with Crabapple in saying that the curse seal kills. I think curses would work no matter the will of the person, except in very extreme situations. I think if Neji was dying from curse seal-itis, he wouldn't have the willpower to want to seek revenge. He's very devoted to the house, and has kind of accepted how his father died as an honor to the house. I doubt he'd try to seEk VeNjInSs if he had to die for some reason. It wouldn't be called a curse then. Neji has a longer list of reasons to kill the main branch than the few reasons not to. Why wouldn't it be called a curse? What makes you say that? Neji is extremely loyal to his family. Curses don't immediately kill. They curse. It's an actual verb with it's own set of classifications. If it was just an off switch, it would be a spell or something. A charm. But not a curse, which, by definition, is gradual. It can invoke death, but it isn't just an automatic death button. 1. the expression of a wish that misfortune, evil, doom, etc., befall a person, group, etc. 2. a formula or charm intended to cause such misfortune to another. 3. the act of reciting such a formula. 4. a profane oath; curse word. 5. an evil that has been invoked upon one. 6. the cause of evil, misfortune, or trouble. 7. something accursed. 8. Slang. the menstrual period; menstruation (usually prec. by the). 9. an ecclesiastical censure or anathema. –verb (used with object) 10. to wish or invoke evil, calamity, injury, or destruction upon. 11. to swear at. 12. to blaspheme. 13. to afflict with great evil. 14. to excommunicate. –verb (used without object) 15. to utter curses; swear profanely. You guys seriously ignored the fact that not only the main branch killed his father, but also basically disowned him? His "friendship" with the main branch is his ONLY choice. Do you all honestly believe that generations of hatred and abuse was just patched up like that?
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:15 pm
1. the expression of a wish that misfortune, evil, doom, etc., befall a person, group, etc.
2. a formula or charm intended to cause such misfortune to another.
10. to wish or invoke evil, calamity, injury, or destruction upon.
The curse seal of the Hyuuga clan kills people when it's activated. That's why Hizashi died. Hiashi activated the curse seal, and he kicked it. They explained that that's what the Hyuuga seal does.
Neji is a very honorable person. He thought Hiashi had killed his father without his choice, when in actuality, Hizashi had willingly sacrificed himself for the clan. He probably still holds a grudge against the main house just for being the main house, but it's not enough to kill them.
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:53 pm
Captain Verd 1. the expression of a wish that misfortune, evil, doom, etc., befall a person, group, etc.
2. a formula or charm intended to cause such misfortune to another.
10. to wish or invoke evil, calamity, injury, or destruction upon.The curse seal of the Hyuuga clan kills people when it's activated. That's why Hizashi died. Hiashi activated the curse seal, and he kicked it. They explained that that's what the Hyuuga seal does. Neji is a very honorable person. He thought Hiashi had killed his father without his choice, when in actuality, Hizashi had willingly sacrificed himself for the clan. He probably still holds a grudge against the main house just for being the main house, but it's not enough to kill them. O thpught Hizashi was sacrificed by other means... gonk He is honorable. More reason to end the evil chain of the main branch... FINE I ADMIT IT! I'M GUILTY! gonk I'd just LOVE Neji to kick their asses-- it would be an awesome scene and huge climax to his story! >O<;; It seemed like a real possible idea but you guys seem way against it.
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:09 pm
Shikalee Captain Verd 1. the expression of a wish that misfortune, evil, doom, etc., befall a person, group, etc.
2. a formula or charm intended to cause such misfortune to another.
10. to wish or invoke evil, calamity, injury, or destruction upon.The curse seal of the Hyuuga clan kills people when it's activated. That's why Hizashi died. Hiashi activated the curse seal, and he kicked it. They explained that that's what the Hyuuga seal does. Neji is a very honorable person. He thought Hiashi had killed his father without his choice, when in actuality, Hizashi had willingly sacrificed himself for the clan. He probably still holds a grudge against the main house just for being the main house, but it's not enough to kill them. O thpught Hizashi was sacrificed by other means... gonk He is honorable. More reason to end the evil chain of the main branch... FINE I ADMIT IT! I'M GUILTY! gonk I'd just LOVE Neji to kick their asses-- it would be an awesome scene and huge climax to his story! >O<;; It seemed like a real possible idea but you guys seem way against it. I'm way against it because it's way against his character.
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:22 pm
Captain Verd Shikalee Captain Verd 1. the expression of a wish that misfortune, evil, doom, etc., befall a person, group, etc.
2. a formula or charm intended to cause such misfortune to another.
10. to wish or invoke evil, calamity, injury, or destruction upon.The curse seal of the Hyuuga clan kills people when it's activated. That's why Hizashi died. Hiashi activated the curse seal, and he kicked it. They explained that that's what the Hyuuga seal does. Neji is a very honorable person. He thought Hiashi had killed his father without his choice, when in actuality, Hizashi had willingly sacrificed himself for the clan. He probably still holds a grudge against the main house just for being the main house, but it's not enough to kill them. O thpught Hizashi was sacrificed by other means... gonk He is honorable. More reason to end the evil chain of the main branch... FINE I ADMIT IT! I'M GUILTY! gonk I'd just LOVE Neji to kick their asses-- it would be an awesome scene and huge climax to his story! >O<;; It seemed like a real possible idea but you guys seem way against it. I'm way against it because it's way against his character. So is Shikamaru ******** Kurenai until he's blue in the face but you wanted that. And argued with people over it... xd
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:36 am
CrabappleRed attilathefun OHO MY GOD boy will I argue about Neji. I'm not saying he couldn't kill Hiashi--I'm sure it's possible. But if Hiashi wanted to kill Neji, he would only need to activate the curse seal, and there would be nothing Neji could do about it. Now, I don't know if the curse seal can actually kill, but supposing it can, and Hiashi had some good reason (I can't think of one), that'd be depressing, IMO. The curse seal has to be able to kill the branch members. It's used as a way to control them and prevent Itachi-wannabes. Giving it anything less than the ability to kill is impractical. Neji also explicitly states that it's used as both a means to cause pain and kill. However, there are always ways around such things. . . a good dose of poison, some hired help, unexpected attacks. . . really, the creative ninja could easily find a way around it. Which is why I find Hiashi's imediat appology uppon discovering Neji's strength so suspicious. It seemed way too much like a "zomg, strong/uber smart kid who hates up! Quick, suck up, suck up!" Of couse, this is a load of baloney, since Hiashi is listed as being an honorable man in his stats, and Naruto being the show that it is, he probably means his appology. But it's fun to prentend. twisted OMG, you are correct! I was going to use the Hizashi thing in my argument, and then for some reason I was like naw, LOLZ, the Hyuuga didn't kill him with the curse seal! sweatdrop *renounces self-issued Nejitard license*
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:54 am
I am not trying to be a Nazi, but I'd like to know what chapter they say the curse killed him in. I recall there being a big deal that he sacrificed himself for the family. surprised
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:56 am
Shikalee I am not trying to be a Nazi, but I'd like to know what chapter they say the curse killed him in. I recall there being a big deal that he sacrificed himself for the family. surprised He did, by choosing to go and let himself be given to el country de Cloud, at which point the Hyuuga activated the seal and killed him. If memory serves. *...goes to find anyway~*
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:19 am
attilathefun Shikalee I am not trying to be a Nazi, but I'd like to know what chapter they say the curse killed him in. I recall there being a big deal that he sacrificed himself for the family. surprised He did, by choosing to go and let himself be given to el country de Cloud, at which point the Hyuuga activated the seal and killed him. If memory serves. *...goes to find anyway~* but they killed Hizashi AFTER he let himself get caught by the Kumogakure right? I think they did it so he wouldnt get tortured to death by those guys
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:32 am
Right, afterwards.
Anyway Neji specifically says it can easily kill a branch member on page 12 of chapter 102. I'd love to link the page, but apparently chuushin doesn't host all the chapters online anymore, so that kinda sucks.
ETA: Even though it says the curse seal can kill, it doesn't look like it says the Hyuuga specifically killed Hizashi after he was captured--Neji just says they killed him.
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:52 pm
Juuyonbi_No_Peko_=3 attilathefun Shikalee I am not trying to be a Nazi, but I'd like to know what chapter they say the curse killed him in. I recall there being a big deal that he sacrificed himself for the family. surprised He did, by choosing to go and let himself be given to el country de Cloud, at which point the Hyuuga activated the seal and killed him. If memory serves. *...goes to find anyway~* but they killed Hizashi AFTER he let himself get caught by the Kumogakure right? I think they did it so he wouldnt get tortured to death by those guys I think it was so they wouldn't learn the SeCrEt of Byakuugan.
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:29 pm
Captain Verd Juuyonbi_No_Peko_=3 attilathefun Shikalee I am not trying to be a Nazi, but I'd like to know what chapter they say the curse killed him in. I recall there being a big deal that he sacrificed himself for the family. surprised He did, by choosing to go and let himself be given to el country de Cloud, at which point the Hyuuga activated the seal and killed him. If memory serves. *...goes to find anyway~* but they killed Hizashi AFTER he let himself get caught by the Kumogakure right? I think they did it so he wouldnt get tortured to death by those guys I think it was so they wouldn't learn the SeCrEt of Byakuugan. So basically the branch family is still hated?
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