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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:58 am
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:54 pm
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:07 pm
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:13 pm
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:11 pm
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:34 pm
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:09 am
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:08 am
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:30 am
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:37 am
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:08 pm
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:30 pm
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The songs in LotR weren't exactly something that set the mood as much, I think. Unlike in the Hobbit, which tends to have Bilbo focusing on the various moods of people by noting the types of singing, as he questions how the various cultures might be playing into it, LotR was a far more serious book. It can get away without really requiring Tom Bombadil if it must, for example, or the rest from being entirely jovial. Nay, the mood of the Hobbit (and that of Bilbo's constant moaning) is usually counterpointed by the songs. Especially since a fair many of them tend to help explain details or other insights into the quest itself. Be it cracking dishes and plates to show what bilbo baggins hates, the elves natural songs about wondering about the dwarves, the sinister plans and almost creepy descriptions of what they'll do to these tresspassers... all change the mood. But more importantly, they're a rather large focus in the books, whereas the songs of LotR were more glanced over and such.
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:34 pm
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:51 pm
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Nelowulf The songs in LotR weren't exactly something that set the mood as much, I think. Unlike in the Hobbit, which tends to have Bilbo focusing on the various moods of people by noting the types of singing, as he questions how the various cultures might be playing into it, LotR was a far more serious book. It can get away without really requiring Tom Bombadil if it must, for example, or the rest from being entirely jovial. Nay, the mood of the Hobbit (and that of Bilbo's constant moaning) is usually counterpointed by the songs. Especially since a fair many of them tend to help explain details or other insights into the quest itself. Be it cracking dishes and plates to show what bilbo baggins hates, the elves natural songs about wondering about the dwarves, the sinister plans and almost creepy descriptions of what they'll do to these tresspassers... all change the mood. But more importantly, they're a rather large focus in the books, whereas the songs of LotR were more glanced over and such. Go back and re-read the Lord of the Rings because the songs were instrumental in the feeling of the book. Just as much-if not more so- than in the Hobbit in my mind. An early example would be when Aragorn sings the tale of Beren and Luthien to the Hobbits, on a superficial level it is to pass the time and strengthen the hearts of the hobbits against the growing darkness of night. More specifically it foreshadows and is analogous to his own love with Arwen, which is only touched on the story proper but is expanded upon in the appendices. You bring up that in the Hobbit we get to know about the culture and characters in the songs, the same is true in Lord of the RIngs. One of the first encounters with the culture of the Rohirrim is through Aragorn's recitation of an ancient poem of Rohan. The fall of Sauron was announced to the people of Minas Tirith through song by one of the great Eagles. These are just a couple of examples but there are countless more I can provide. Songs and poetry are important to all of Tolkien's works, especially those which are more "serious," In fact Tolkien's idea of how the world of Arda was created is through music as described in the Silmarillion.
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:56 pm
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