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Harrotz

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:49 am


First of all, Muslims and Muslimah, do you believe in Jesus?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:37 am


It is Esa! His real name is Esa! And he was a prophet, soo ofcurse i belive in him.

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Harrotz

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:14 am


Good answer. But not as expected in numbers. I thought I could receive 3 or more replies.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:03 am


dTranquility
Good answer. But not as expected in numbers. I thought I could receive 3 or more replies.

I have to, as a Muslim, he's a prophet.

_rainarai_


Harrotz

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:57 am


Yes! As a Muslim we have to believe in Jesus as a prophet. Those who don't believe in Jesus is not a Muslim, says Ahmed Deedat.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:53 am


dTranquility
Yes! As a Muslim we have to believe in Jesus as a prophet. Those who don't believe in Jesus is not a Muslim, says Ahmed Deedat.

Who's Ahmad Deedat? O:

_rainarai_


Harrotz

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:57 am


He's a Muslim. A debater.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:23 am


dTranquility
He's a Muslim. A debater.

aha, okay :B

_rainarai_


Harrotz

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:28 am


He had a debate with Jimmy Swaggart, with the title, "Is Bible The Word of God?"
PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:31 pm


The bibble is made by priests rolleyes

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:44 pm


The_Pathan
The bibble is made by priests rolleyes


Speaking in that way that would mean there is no authenticity in the bible, When it is said in the Qur'an that anything that agrees with the Qur'an that is in the Bible is true, and anything that conflicts is false. Basically your conflicting Allah's (SWT) words.

It would be "Corrupted by priests", But as to how I see it, Since the Bible is agreed to have been written as inspiration by God rather than God himself and thus is believed to be fallible by some Christians. Which is kind of in the approval of the Islamic way.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:07 am


There was a bibble made by Esa (saw)!

But some people changed words, and started christianity.

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_rainarai_

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:44 pm


The_Pathan
There was a bibble made by Esa (saw)!

But some people changed words, and started christianity.

How do you know that? Have you been there or what?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:16 pm


The_Pathan
There was a bibble made by Esa (saw)!

But some people changed words, and started christianity.


Mm I don't recall Isa (A.S) "Creating" the Injeel, Allah (SWT) did that, Not Isa. Isa (A.S) only received it.

And while we're on the subject, I've found a rather well thought way on thinking on how Jesus was never God, Nor did he ever claim to be God.

I'll just write it in here if anyone wants to see:

1. Everyone who believes in One God whether that be Yahweh (Excuse me if I spelled it wrong.) or Allah (SWT), Such a God is above anything created, And has divine attributes such as Divine Justice or Power that nothing he creates can match.

2. Having a creation (Since Jesus is agreed by Christians to have been 100% Human and 100% God, Correct me if I'm wrong anyway.) be associated to God such as a Son, Mother, Father, Or something that brings blood related issues into mind would lower God's position on his creation, Making him as weak as us Fallible Humans are.

3. The Hebrew bible speaks that it's basically impossible to see God in plain sight, Since they would go Blind. It'd be like staring into the Sun which blinds you obviously, And since people saw Jesus (A.S) he can't really be God.

4. Again, Having such a high position as The God of Abraham in which no one can reach can't make it possible to be incarnated into a Human soul such as Jesus (A.S), Because this would demean God's Attributes and not make him that high in status anymore. Sure there's the argument "God can do anything" Regardless if that is true, He can't go against his nature, He can't be limited, He can't be born since he's been here before time even existed, He can't die because otherwise he'd be limited to a lifespan which we know he isn't.

In terms of Jesus (A.S) not claiming to be God, Raising people from the dead is through God's permission to allow some of his power to preform miracles so that people would believe, Not that he was God himself, Along with Jesus (A.S) Praying to God and not himself.

Anyway those are just my thoughts on it, Didn't mean to offend anyone.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:14 am


_rainarai_
The_Pathan
There was a bibble made by Esa (saw)!

But some people changed words, and started christianity.

How do you know that? Have you been there or what?
The qur'an...
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