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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:37 pm
Psycho Lee
Mind you the person I groped here was someone I've known for a while. I didn't think she'd flip out about it.

Women are hard to read. I've had girls on here take just casual cuddling and hugs as a sign that I want to cyber them in PM... I've had a girl I casually flirted with get all cuddly and touchy with me once, and then weeks later get all crazed when I joked about dragging her into a closet for privacy... what, you have no problem humping my leg, but weeks later the idea of doing things in a closet scares you? (I think it's because in between those two times she found out I was 7 years older than her...)

Women are so confusing it makes me wish I was gay, because at least most guys are honest about what they want.


Hey, I agree, women are very hard to read and understand. I'm a woman and I even know that. Its hard to tell when exactly a woman is ready for anything, because we tend to send a lot of mixed signals. In an online setting, I'd straight up ask if a girl is into yiffing, so you know what your boundaries are. In real life, you can try asking the same thing, but you might get dirty looks.

I can understand your frustrations, woman sometimes make me wish I was straight.  
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:28 pm
Psycho Lee
Mind you the person I groped here was someone I've known for a while. I didn't think she'd flip out about it.

Women are hard to read. I've had girls on here take just casual cuddling and hugs as a sign that I want to cyber them in PM... I've had a girl I casually flirted with get all cuddly and touchy with me once, and then weeks later get all crazed when I joked about dragging her into a closet for privacy... what, you have no problem humping my leg, but weeks later the idea of doing things in a closet scares you? (I think it's because in between those two times she found out I was 7 years older than her...)

Women are so confusing it makes me wish I was gay, because at least most guys are honest about what they want.

Well, people get moods, too.

On internets it's hard to know if what you're seeing is a realistic depiction of what this person is generally like. Rely upon this.  

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:18 am
About con sex... That does not just apply to furries. All conventions are known for promiscuity and anonymous (or semi-anonymous) sex. It is just that most conventions are very "hush hush" about it. Heck, business conventions even have a reputation as places for spouses to cheat and more or less get away with it.  
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:05 am
SunflowerGoddess
About con sex... That does not just apply to furries. All conventions are known for promiscuity and anonymous (or semi-anonymous) sex. It is just that most conventions are very "hush hush" about it. Heck, business conventions even have a reputation as places for spouses to cheat and more or less get away with it.


Having been to other kinds conventions, this I can contest to being true. Not to mention the stories I hear all over the place from this con or that, none of which are furry.

You take a group of sexually repressed nerds, sometimes ones still in their 20's, and sex is going to happen.  

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:30 am
SunflowerGoddess
About con sex... That does not just apply to furries.
Yes, I should have specified that in my own post. I've never been to a fur con and yet I constantly hear of people hooking up (or, unfortunately, being harassed/molested) at the cons I do attend.  
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:05 pm
Alexander Fawxe Jace
and i do often try the more subtle approach of smooth talk, some verbal flirting then chance a brush of the thigh and each time, they'd give me a purr or murr and we'd whisper chat over weather we were going to give a show or do it in private


Give a show? Are we talking about real life, like in cons, or... I guess you're talking about chat...  

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:41 am
Selene Aries
SunflowerGoddess
About con sex... That does not just apply to furries. All conventions are known for promiscuity and anonymous (or semi-anonymous) sex. It is just that most conventions are very "hush hush" about it. Heck, business conventions even have a reputation as places for spouses to cheat and more or less get away with it.


Having been to other kinds conventions, this I can contest to being true. Not to mention the stories I hear all over the place from this con or that, none of which are furry.

You take a group of sexually repressed nerds, sometimes ones still in their 20's, and sex is going to happen.


Not to mention... at fan conventions of any kind, there's usually plenty of porn being sold and passed around, thus putting a lot of people in a sexual mindset.

Honestly, anime cons can scare me far more than furry cons in that there are 12-year-old girls there screaming about the details in the explicit yaoi manga or doujinshi they just (somehow) got. That can be like a mating call for some of the really creepy people...  
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:11 am
Selene Aries
SunflowerGoddess
About con sex... That does not just apply to furries. All conventions are known for promiscuity and anonymous (or semi-anonymous) sex. It is just that most conventions are very "hush hush" about it. Heck, business conventions even have a reputation as places for spouses to cheat and more or less get away with it.


Having been to other kinds conventions, this I can contest to being true. Not to mention the stories I hear all over the place from this con or that, none of which are furry.

You take a group of sexually repressed nerds, sometimes ones still in their 20's, and sex is going to happen.


Especially at the anime, furry, sci-fi, and other fan conventions where most of the attendees are "sexually repressed nerds" with few social graces and limited sexual experience.
As a fan living in Southern California, I've noticed that there is more casual sex taking place at anime conventions than furry conventions, reflecting the fact that more anime fans are in their teens while the majority of furries tend to be in their twenties and thirties. Of course, this depends on the demographics of the attendees; for example, in my area the ratio between straight and gay furries is gradually changing in favor of the heterosexuals while the percentage of women to men in the fandom is growing rapidly. On the other hand, in the Bay Area the vast majority of furries are gay, and this percentage probably will not change significantly in the future. Since women in furry fandom tend to be in the minority, most women you meet at furry conventions and other such social events will most likely be involved in a relationship, as they are fewer in number and are something of a limited commodity--hence why there appears to be more sexual promiscuity among men in furry fandom than women.
It's all a matter of perspective.
 

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:56 pm
In a chatterbox-ish art thread, this girl was wearing only a towel on her avatar, so I grabbed it and ran around keeping it away from her...

...and the thread owner scolded me for hitting on girls who were too young.

Mind you, this woman said she was 20. But to the thread starter, me being in my late 20s makes someone who's 20 jailbait to me and way too young. I'm an old creepy lecher now.

I would think that 20 would be fair game. She's above legal in my country. She's an adult who can make her own decisions. Age doesn't matter, right?

Interestingly enough, the only regular in that thread older than that is the thread owner herself at 30 years young. And later that day she ranted that no one will ever go out with her and she'll die single and alone, and all people who are being lovey-dovey and flirtatious can get the hell out....
.... so I think she was just jealous and had issues.  
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:44 pm
To make a long story shorter: people are difficult. The trick is to make your way through life, not without ever annoying people or getting annoyed at people, but burning as few bridges as possible.

Being a little more conservative with expressions of physical affection, or sexually-tinged mischief, would be a start; so would apologizing to someone who is offended by your behavior.  

Shaviv


SunflowerGoddess

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:33 pm
godhi
Selene Aries
SunflowerGoddess
About con sex... That does not just apply to furries. All conventions are known for promiscuity and anonymous (or semi-anonymous) sex. It is just that most conventions are very "hush hush" about it. Heck, business conventions even have a reputation as places for spouses to cheat and more or less get away with it.


Having been to other kinds conventions, this I can contest to being true. Not to mention the stories I hear all over the place from this con or that, none of which are furry.

You take a group of sexually repressed nerds, sometimes ones still in their 20's, and sex is going to happen.


Especially at the anime, furry, sci-fi, and other fan conventions where most of the attendees are "sexually repressed nerds" with few social graces and limited sexual experience.
As a fan living in Southern California, I've noticed that there is more casual sex taking place at anime conventions than furry conventions, reflecting the fact that more anime fans are in their teens while the majority of furries tend to be in their twenties and thirties. Of course, this depends on the demographics of the attendees; for example, in my area the ratio between straight and gay furries is gradually changing in favor of the heterosexuals while the percentage of women to men in the fandom is growing rapidly. On the other hand, in the Bay Area the vast majority of furries are gay, and this percentage probably will not change significantly in the future. Since women in furry fandom tend to be in the minority, most women you meet at furry conventions and other such social events will most likely be involved in a relationship, as they are fewer in number and are something of a limited commodity--hence why there appears to be more sexual promiscuity among men in furry fandom than women.
It's all a matter of perspective.


This kind of brings me into a rather touchy topic in the furry fandom:

How many furries actually are gay and how many are simply sleeping with men and claiming to be gay due to lack of available females?

I notice this pattern a lot:
1) "I'm new to furry fandom."
2) "I'm straight and have never liked guys in my life."
3) "There doesn't seems to be many girls in the fandom..."
4) "Oh my god! Where are all the girls? I'm so lonely I'm going to kill myself!"
5) "Um... I'm curious about guys. Maybe?"
6) "I'm gay."  
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:33 pm
I still hold to the belief that most people are inherently bisexual and it is just the taboos of society that prevents exploration and experimentation of one's sexuality.

Science actually backs me up on this.  

Selene Aries


Garek Maxwell

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:24 pm
Selene Aries
I still hold to the belief that most people are inherently bisexual and it is just the taboos of society that prevents exploration and experimentation of one's sexuality.

Science actually backs me up on this.


I find women gross and icky and positively revolting when it comes to sex. I'm not exaggerating when I say that I would probably feel ill and sick to my stomach if I tried to have sex with a woman. I really don't find them attractive at all.

...Aesthetically, however, they can be lovely...But that's treating a woman as an object of beauty, and generally people don't like that. This would be no different that looking at a couch, poster, or website. Outside of this, they can potentially be nice friends and make good conversation. That's it for me. I'm not bisexual at all...  
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:02 pm
Garek Maxwell
I find women gross and icky and positively revolting when it comes to sex. I'm not exaggerating when I say that I would probably feel ill and sick to my stomach if I tried to have sex with a woman. I really don't find them attractive at all.

...Aesthetically, however, they can be lovely...But that's treating a woman as an object of beauty, and generally people don't like that. This would be no different that looking at a couch, poster, or website. Outside of this, they can potentially be nice friends and make good conversation. That's it for me. I'm not bisexual at all...


Same for me. Except change "bisexual" to "gay". X3 I have kissed girl friends before, just out of curiosity, and it did absolutely nothing for me. On the other hand, I love kissing my fiancé-- but I think I'm also biased because of the strong emotional attachment I have to him. ♥  

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:16 pm
Selene Aries
I still hold to the belief that most people are inherently bisexual and it is just the taboos of society that prevents exploration and experimentation of one's sexuality.

Science actually backs me up on this.



Holy crap, I do agree. I've never met a girl that wouldn't sleep with me if I got her tipsy enough.  
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