Cigarettes... the new target for stupidity?!

[doom1000]

i both drink and smokes, but not every day though....

when im out drinking with my friends, i stay with beer. It is easier to control. And sometimes when im alone with one or two friend we use the water pipe (strawberry, WOOT ^^ ) but im not addicted to smoking or anything.

I got nothing against people who smoke. Alot of my friends does.  

[xX x0mbie Xx]

i drink and smoke, i chain smoke when im drunk, its great hahah(well to me) people generally dont have a problem with my smoking seeing as i ussually do it outside to begin with, but when i get those random bithy people whining about my smoking i tell them to blow it out their asses because well frankly i don't give two shits im smoking you're not you don't like it go somewhere else yes i am a total b***h to those who whine at me about my smoking seeing as it is MY choice not theirs, and as for drinking i get drunk like every other weekend with friends and stuff go out to parties and personally im not a fan of beer i ussually go for the more harder stuff like dark rum or vodka or any liqures(sp?) and im fully aware of what i do and im not totally unpredictable while drunk and im not scary im just random and giggly. so before anyone who hasn't done eigther go around saying anything about people who smoke and drink they really need to figure out what people are really like. it's different for each person and you choose who to be around so obviously the people you're around you'll know right? if not why are you even around RANDOM drunks anyways you don't even know them of course they'll see unpredictable to you.  

[Alice_K8]

I personnally hate being around smokers, and I think it is a disgusting thing to do, but I see drinking the same, and the scenario described at the start of this thread is indeed horridly hippocritical.

I personnally think that if alcohol is legal, then we should also see mass markets for hallucinogens and pot, because alcohol is worse than both of these. So why are they so taboo? I don't know :S I'm not one to do any drugs, but it doesn't seem sensible that alcohol would be acceptable, while less dangerous drugs aren't.  

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AltruistAlice

I personnally hate being around smokers, and I think it is a disgusting thing to do, but I see drinking the same, and the scenario described at the start of this thread is indeed horridly hippocritical.
I personnally think that if alcohol is legal, then we should also see mass markets for hallucinogens and pot, because alcohol is worse than both of these. So why are they so taboo? I don't know :S I'm not one to do any drugs, but it doesn't seem sensible that alcohol would be acceptable, while less dangerous drugs aren't.

Have you ever drank?

Hallucinogenics are much worse than alcohol. You don't see things when you're drunk.
Neither do you when you smoke pot.  

[GilAskan]

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AltruistAlice

I personnally hate being around smokers, and I think it is a disgusting thing to do, but I see drinking the same, and the scenario described at the start of this thread is indeed horridly hippocritical.
I personnally think that if alcohol is legal, then we should also see mass markets for hallucinogens and pot, because alcohol is worse than both of these. So why are they so taboo? I don't know :S I'm not one to do any drugs, but it doesn't seem sensible that alcohol would be acceptable, while less dangerous drugs aren't.

Have you ever drank?

Hallucinogenics are much worse than alcohol. You don't see things when you're drunk.
Neither do you when you smoke pot.

True that you don't see things while drinking alcohol or smoking marijuana, but in the "alcohol is worse" argument, it's fairly easy to overdose on alcohol. Dying of hallucinogen or marijuana usage is unlikely- not impossible, but it's not common. Drinking yourself to death, on the other hand, isn't that difficult.  

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GilAskan

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AltruistAlice

I personnally hate being around smokers, and I think it is a disgusting thing to do, but I see drinking the same, and the scenario described at the start of this thread is indeed horridly hippocritical.
I personnally think that if alcohol is legal, then we should also see mass markets for hallucinogens and pot, because alcohol is worse than both of these. So why are they so taboo? I don't know :S I'm not one to do any drugs, but it doesn't seem sensible that alcohol would be acceptable, while less dangerous drugs aren't.

Have you ever drank?

Hallucinogenics are much worse than alcohol. You don't see things when you're drunk.
Neither do you when you smoke pot.

True that you don't see things while drinking alcohol or smoking marijuana, but in the "alcohol is worse" argument, it's fairly easy to overdose on alcohol. Dying of hallucinogen or marijuana usage is unlikely- not impossible, but it's not common. Drinking yourself to death, on the other hand, isn't that difficult.

You'd have to drink hell of a lot of alcohol.

You'd probably pass out before you died.
On halucigenics you can see things which can kill you.  

[Siermana]

I was downtown in Panama City a couple weekends ago and this group of kids was harassing a guy who was smoking.
I walked past and overheard them, so I walked up , tapped him on the shoulder and asked if I could bum a cigarette off of him. He laughed and handed me one, and then said, "You know they saw me smoking and I got in TROUBLE. You should quit."
"This guy looks at me and says, "You know, 50 million dollars is wasted on tobacco products each year. If you had that much money, what would you do with it?"
I had to be a snob and correct him. "Actually it's 72 million."
"Well, what would you do with that much money?"
"Um...I think...that it would be very difficult for me to run out of cigarettes, and I wouldn't have to bug this nice man to let me have one. Have a nice day."

I also drink. I get s**t faced. Hold it against me if you want, I really could not care less.

I respect people who hate one or the other, or both. But it's wrong to get on someone's case about it. Express your opinion and leave it at that, okay? Thank you. biggrin  

[Siermana]

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GilAskan

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AltruistAlice

I personnally hate being around smokers, and I think it is a disgusting thing to do, but I see drinking the same, and the scenario described at the start of this thread is indeed horridly hippocritical.
I personnally think that if alcohol is legal, then we should also see mass markets for hallucinogens and pot, because alcohol is worse than both of these. So why are they so taboo? I don't know :S I'm not one to do any drugs, but it doesn't seem sensible that alcohol would be acceptable, while less dangerous drugs aren't.

Have you ever drank?

Hallucinogenics are much worse than alcohol. You don't see things when you're drunk.
Neither do you when you smoke pot.

True that you don't see things while drinking alcohol or smoking marijuana, but in the "alcohol is worse" argument, it's fairly easy to overdose on alcohol. Dying of hallucinogen or marijuana usage is unlikely- not impossible, but it's not common. Drinking yourself to death, on the other hand, isn't that difficult.

You'd have to drink hell of a lot of alcohol.

You'd probably pass out before you died.
On hallucinogens you can see things which can kill you.

Wrong. You can see things which frighten you and cause you to do things that harm yourself. They can possible cause you to kill yourself. But what you SEE, cannot kill you. It is your body's reaction which kills you.  

[Rellik San]

Siermana

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GilAskan

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AltruistAlice

I personnally hate being around smokers, and I think it is a disgusting thing to do, but I see drinking the same, and the scenario described at the start of this thread is indeed horridly hippocritical.
I personnally think that if alcohol is legal, then we should also see mass markets for hallucinogens and pot, because alcohol is worse than both of these. So why are they so taboo? I don't know :S I'm not one to do any drugs, but it doesn't seem sensible that alcohol would be acceptable, while less dangerous drugs aren't.

Have you ever drank?

Hallucinogenics are much worse than alcohol. You don't see things when you're drunk.
Neither do you when you smoke pot.

True that you don't see things while drinking alcohol or smoking marijuana, but in the "alcohol is worse" argument, it's fairly easy to overdose on alcohol. Dying of hallucinogen or marijuana usage is unlikely- not impossible, but it's not common. Drinking yourself to death, on the other hand, isn't that difficult.

You'd have to drink hell of a lot of alcohol.

You'd probably pass out before you died.
On hallucinogens you can see things which can kill you.

Wrong. You can see things which frighten you and cause you to do things that harm yourself. They can possible cause you to kill yourself. But what you SEE, cannot kill you. It is your body's reaction which kills you.

You missing the point over semantics.  

[The Evil Rabbit]

I become physically ill if there is too much cigarette smoke in the air. I get headaches and nausea. Sometimes the nausea is so bad I'll end up puking. This only seems to happen when I'm exposed to actual cigarette/cigar smoke. I can go down to the local hooka bar for some baklava and falafel and feel absolutely fine. I wonder if it's certain chemicals in the mass-produced cigarettes/cigars that triggers my sickness since the hooka tobacco doesn't bother me. I think the brand name they use is something like Al Fahker (the hooka bar is run by some Middle-Eastern guys who know how to make great food).

Anyway, I don't think smoking would be that bad if there was the little issue of second hand smoke and dirtying up the air for everyone else in the building. At least alcohol, when consumed responsibly and in moderation, will not harm anyone else in the room or on the road. It's when drunkenness ensues that other people get hurt.

I obviously don't smoke, but I do like to have the occasional 12 oz. Smirnoff Ice, Mike's, or Bacardi. I like the taste of what my friend calls "alcosoda" (alcohol - hol + soda) Having just one during an evening is good enough for me. I don't want to get drunk, make a fool of myself, and puke my guts out the next morning. It's also interesting when I go up to the bar and order them because even though I'm a 21 year old college girl, I'm only 4'9" tall and look like a teenager. I still get carded for R rated movies sometimes. stare It's funny to see the bartenders' do double-takes when I ask them for a drink, though sometimes it can also be annoying if I get one of the very stern/serious ones that have to stare at my ID for the longest time and inspect every nanometer of it to make sure it isn't fake.  

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Rellik San

Siermana

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GilAskan

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AltruistAlice

I personnally hate being around smokers, and I think it is a disgusting thing to do, but I see drinking the same, and the scenario described at the start of this thread is indeed horridly hippocritical.
I personnally think that if alcohol is legal, then we should also see mass markets for hallucinogens and pot, because alcohol is worse than both of these. So why are they so taboo? I don't know :S I'm not one to do any drugs, but it doesn't seem sensible that alcohol would be acceptable, while less dangerous drugs aren't.

Have you ever drank?

Hallucinogenics are much worse than alcohol. You don't see things when you're drunk.
Neither do you when you smoke pot.

True that you don't see things while drinking alcohol or smoking marijuana, but in the "alcohol is worse" argument, it's fairly easy to overdose on alcohol. Dying of hallucinogen or marijuana usage is unlikely- not impossible, but it's not common. Drinking yourself to death, on the other hand, isn't that difficult.

You'd have to drink hell of a lot of alcohol.

You'd probably pass out before you died.
On hallucinogens you can see things which can kill you.

Wrong. You can see things which frighten you and cause you to do things that harm yourself. They can possible cause you to kill yourself. But what you SEE, cannot kill you. It is your body's reaction which kills you.

You missing the point over semantics.

This argument is based on semantics.  

[Siermana]

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Rellik San

Siermana

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GilAskan

True that you don't see things while drinking alcohol or smoking marijuana, but in the "alcohol is worse" argument, it's fairly easy to overdose on alcohol. Dying of hallucinogen or marijuana usage is unlikely- not impossible, but it's not common. Drinking yourself to death, on the other hand, isn't that difficult.

You'd have to drink hell of a lot of alcohol.

You'd probably pass out before you died.
On hallucinogens you can see things which can kill you.

Wrong. You can see things which frighten you and cause you to do things that harm yourself. They can possible cause you to kill yourself. But what you SEE, cannot kill you. It is your body's reaction which kills you.

You missing the point over semantics.

This argument is based on semantics.

My apologies. I'm a literal person.  

[Bloody Loon]

Meh, literal is good. Honestly I think alcohol is much worse than tobacco. I've seen friends hospitalized either because they were drunk, someone else was drunk, or both. Alcohol (not in moderation) is very dangerous, and I think it should switch places with pot... It can be just as bad to those around you as cocain, or heroin, etc... Cigs and pot do not come close to being as bad as alcohol can be, so... I say alcohol... is bad... very very bad. (again, not in moderation... which is easy to do, apparently).  

[Siermana]

Kaishi Kyouki

Meh, literal is good. Honestly I think alcohol is much worse than tobacco. I've seen friends hospitalized either because they were drunk, someone else was drunk, or both. Alcohol (not in moderation) is very dangerous, and I think it should switch places with pot... It can be just as bad to those around you as cocain, or heroin, etc... Cigs and pot do not come close to being as bad as alcohol can be, so... I say alcohol... is bad... very very bad. (again, not in moderation... which is easy to do, apparently).

If it wasn't so hypocritical of me, I would agree with you. I think that weed is less dangerous than alcohol, but I despise weed and love drinking, so I'll keep my mouth shut on this one. xD  

[Rellik San]

Siermana

Kaishi Kyouki

Meh, literal is good. Honestly I think alcohol is much worse than tobacco. I've seen friends hospitalized either because they were drunk, someone else was drunk, or both. Alcohol (not in moderation) is very dangerous, and I think it should switch places with pot... It can be just as bad to those around you as cocain, or heroin, etc... Cigs and pot do not come close to being as bad as alcohol can be, so... I say alcohol... is bad... very very bad. (again, not in moderation... which is easy to do, apparently).

If it wasn't so hypocritical of me, I would agree with you. I think that weed is less dangerous than alcohol, but I despise weed and love drinking, so I'll keep my mouth shut on this one. xD

The difference between weed and alcohol, is your never sure what you get with weed, if they legalised it, they could tax it and put sanctions and safety regulations on its production.