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 Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:34 am
aznnam3dj1n Shikalee Juuyonbi_No_Peko_=3 Shikalee Juuyonbi_No_Peko_=3 She can cancel the Shinteshin anytime she wants, she wouldnt receive heavy damage if she was fast enough You do make a point. But as Shikamaru said, really risky. She has to be prepared to die to take a risk like that. D: She could make herself useful sometime... stare The girl needs to go the same route as Sakura, me thinks. Team 10 has brains and brawn. What does that leave left? Whatever Ino needs to be... xd Cancelling out would be a "good idea" but even then she has wasted chakra. In this battle chakra is important. Every chakra counts, they're fighting two immortal men. Using Shinteshin and then cancelling is completely wasteful of time and chakra thus leaving them back to how Shikamaru has Hidan now. These are two scenario's i would see if Ino does control Hidan. 1) Ino controls Hidan, so now Shikamaru and all them attack Kakuzu, but Hidan being immortal; Kakuzu could just kill him and leaving Ino's body dead and her soul along with it. So now Hidan will be free and now Team 10 will be left with three members. 2) Ino controls but if in danger quickly goes back to her body she wasted Chakra and thus having Shikamaru using his Shadow bind getting back to how he has Hidan now. So why do it? So as I mentioned earlier, Kakuzu must be fought with Kakashi, Chouji and Ino. Shikamaru can bind Kakuzu, while Ino attacks him in Hidan's body...of course then Chouji and Kakashi need to take care of those two and kill the rest of the puppets...oh my, this is troublesome =/
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:57 am
Juuyonbi_No_Peko_=3 Shikamaru can bind Kakuzu, while Ino attacks him in Hidan's body...of course then Chouji and Kakashi need to take care of those two and kill the rest of the puppets...oh my, this is troublesome =/ *twitch* Don't say that word around me. I'm SCARRED. xd It's like, "Believe it." Lol.
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:00 pm
Captain Verd Shikalee Please. It's hard to take you seriously with an idiotic arguement like that. No doubt are Japanese children far more disciplined, motivated, and trained than American children. All the s**t we hear on our news makes children; not just Japanese ones, but around the world, fall out of their seat in violent laughter. Because it is SO stupid. Ahahahahahahahahahahaha. Your arguement: Japanese children are smarter than American children. Attila's arguement: They're not smarter, they just have better schooling. You: I'm now going to be a jerk and call you an idiot because it looks like I called everyone a bad writer. Also Japanese children are obviously smarter than Ameircan ones, because Americans have stupid things on their news. 9_6 No. >_>; Pay some attention. My arguement was that Kishimoto's writing is more violent and more mature because children in Japan are more disciplined. It had nothing to do with their intelligence. IQ has nothing to do with that. Thought you'd know that by now. =/ Your interpretation of what I said is CLEARLY exagirrated, and you're starting to be a real b***h again. No more games. No more warnings no more fun; no more. I'm quitting the guild.
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:06 pm
Shikalee It had nothing to do with their intelligence. IQ has nothing to do with that. Thought you'd know that by now. =/ Oh, so you agree with her then.
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:06 pm
Captain Verd Shikalee It had nothing to do with their intelligence. IQ has nothing to do with that. Thought you'd know that by now. =/ Oh, so you agree with her then. *sigh* On that part, YES, but that WASN'T the point. rolleyes
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:09 pm
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:15 pm
Shikalee Captain Verd Shikalee It had nothing to do with their intelligence. IQ has nothing to do with that. Thought you'd know that by now. =/ Oh, so you agree with her then. *sigh* On that part, YES, but that WASN'T the point. rolleyes My point was just the IQ/smartness thing, so it's fine for me.
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:20 pm
Captain Verd Shikalee Captain Verd Shikalee It had nothing to do with their intelligence. IQ has nothing to do with that. Thought you'd know that by now. =/ Oh, so you agree with her then. *sigh* On that part, YES, but that WASN'T the point. rolleyes My point was just the IQ/smartness thing, so it's fine for me. What I was talking about was on a more cultural basis, but the arguments got personal before I really had the change to even get into that. It was off topic, anyway. As you can tell, I haven't left yet. It's hard to leave a guild I've been in for so long.
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:21 pm
*pokes* Is all of the guild bad enough for you to leave? If not, then don't quit the guild, just leave the place that's upsetting/frustrating you? Say... agree to disagree, even? >.>'
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:28 pm
Shikalee Oh, I see. You're understanding about other people's views. Gotya. surprised But uh... I hate to say it, but fans of certain characters can't help but be somewhat biased. My friend is a Kakashi fan, and though he likes other characters, he always prioritizes his favorite. I also get a little sad if I tease him. I need a real guy to tease. Teasing a fake guy gets no reaction. It's almost sort of lonely. Yeah. I remember that, too. And Kakuzu clearly heard at least some of it because he said something along the lines of, "Impressive, yes, that is my weakness..." A lot of people say Shikamaru is the kind of guy who just "goes with the flow." That's what he wants us to think. The guy is always taking risks. Treading where he never has socially, physically, and mentally. So are the others, but in a way Shikamaru is sort of testing the water. Because he is scared of some things, he feels as though he will fail. This subconscious fear commonly leads to failure (not just for him but for people in general), and so he is devastated and sort of has this, "I knew it" reaction. I'd say his lack of enthusiasm is from a lack of care. His parents are literally so busy/wrapped up in each other I wouldn't be surprised if he was ignored a lot. He had to become very independent fast and it started to become every time he saw his father it was just for training. The only quality time they really have anymore is when they tend the deer, and even then his dad is probably still rambling on about his son's training and upcoming missions... A Ninja family is a busy family, but particularly his because it is so small. A family like Kiba's has a lot of room for affection and comfort, which is why he is such a motivated guy. (Again, this is all just speculation on my part.) A happy person is not unmotivated. If Shikamaru was happy, he'd be more passionate about his work. Something bothers him on a regular basis. Did I spell it "brians?" Just wondering. Shikamaru is smart. But he's ignorant. He does some of the most obvious things... The boy has a wisdom of 4 and a charisma of 6. He'll never make it in life if he can't figure s**t out! xd
xDDD Unless you intentionally do it to a rabid fangirl or fanboy xDD That'll give you a reaction xD;
Ahh. That's right. *frowns* Okay. Well, that just pushes it up to stupid-ish move xD Though, Kakuzu and Hidan are so (over) confident, that they could probably care less if they try to plan something out.
That is another very interesting and good point on Shikamaru. Is there a *good* site that you know of that talks specifically about the characters - that's official? I know there are a few books out, but do you know of a site that states what's in those books -- in English -- and all? It sounds like an interesting opinion/group of thoughts on Shikamaru and his reasons. Especially with comparing Kiba's situation briefly. And a very interesting point to bring up "If Shikamaru was happy, he'd be more passionate about his work." Very true.
xD No, I think you spelled it right 9.9; Unless I spelled it wrong? ^^; xDDD Lack of proper interaction with people could be affecting that. I wonder how often he spends time with anyone outside of ninja-work. Or just lazing about with Chouji. xD;
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:46 pm
Otakugyrl *pokes* Is all of the guild bad enough for you to leave? If not, then don't quit the guild, just leave the place that's upsetting/frustrating you? Say... agree to disagree, even? >.>' I like people who disagree who make a point.
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:52 pm
Otakugyrl Shikalee Oh, I see. You're understanding about other people's views. Gotya. surprised But uh... I hate to say it, but fans of certain characters can't help but be somewhat biased. My friend is a Kakashi fan, and though he likes other characters, he always prioritizes his favorite. I also get a little sad if I tease him. I need a real guy to tease. Teasing a fake guy gets no reaction. It's almost sort of lonely. Yeah. I remember that, too. And Kakuzu clearly heard at least some of it because he said something along the lines of, "Impressive, yes, that is my weakness..." A lot of people say Shikamaru is the kind of guy who just "goes with the flow." That's what he wants us to think. The guy is always taking risks. Treading where he never has socially, physically, and mentally. So are the others, but in a way Shikamaru is sort of testing the water. Because he is scared of some things, he feels as though he will fail. This subconscious fear commonly leads to failure (not just for him but for people in general), and so he is devastated and sort of has this, "I knew it" reaction. I'd say his lack of enthusiasm is from a lack of care. His parents are literally so busy/wrapped up in each other I wouldn't be surprised if he was ignored a lot. He had to become very independent fast and it started to become every time he saw his father it was just for training. The only quality time they really have anymore is when they tend the deer, and even then his dad is probably still rambling on about his son's training and upcoming missions... A Ninja family is a busy family, but particularly his because it is so small. A family like Kiba's has a lot of room for affection and comfort, which is why he is such a motivated guy. (Again, this is all just speculation on my part.) A happy person is not unmotivated. If Shikamaru was happy, he'd be more passionate about his work. Something bothers him on a regular basis. Did I spell it "brians?" Just wondering. Shikamaru is smart. But he's ignorant. He does some of the most obvious things... The boy has a wisdom of 4 and a charisma of 6. He'll never make it in life if he can't figure s**t out! xd
xDDD Unless you intentionally do it to a rabid fangirl or fanboy xDD That'll give you a reaction xD;
Ahh. That's right. *frowns* Okay. Well, that just pushes it up to stupid-ish move xD Though, Kakuzu and Hidan are so (over) confident, that they could probably care less if they try to plan something out.
That is another very interesting and good point on Shikamaru. Is there a *good* site that you know of that talks specifically about the characters - that's official? I know there are a few books out, but do you know of a site that states what's in those books -- in English -- and all? It sounds like an interesting opinion/group of thoughts on Shikamaru and his reasons. Especially with comparing Kiba's situation briefly. And a very interesting point to bring up "If Shikamaru was happy, he'd be more passionate about his work." Very true.
xD No, I think you spelled it right 9.9; Unless I spelled it wrong? ^^; xDDD Lack of proper interaction with people could be affecting that. I wonder how often he spends time with anyone outside of ninja-work. Or just lazing about with Chouji. xD;I suppose that makes you better than me... I don't know if you've ever felt this, but when I talk to Shikamaru fans, they sort of act like they have to impress him more than me. Even though he's not real. Am I just crazy? Yeah... I'm crazy. xd Reaction from Shi... He's A DRAWING! D:< Shikamaru was too full of himself to realize he was ruining his own plan. He's very lucky that his enemies are always complete morons. Heh, thanks. I read the character books, and I've collected a lot of notes over the year...s? It's only been about a year and a half that I started collect them. I've also made my own observations from parts of the manga I've read. My points are valid, but not necessarily true. But yeah... I've kind of analyzed Shikamaru TO DEATH. See, he's always been a lot like me. Too much in common. Of course it's a coincidence. But to read about it and see how close the coincidence was would be astonishing. No doubt do we have differences, but we have far more similarities. It's VERY CREEPY. O_O;; Naw. You just said, "Brains?" So I was suddenly filled with the fear that I spelled it wrong. xd But yeah, Shikamaru's socialization seems moderate. Hanging out with Temari when she's in Konoha, Chouji sometimes, rarely Naruto... he's becoming more and more busy and spends a lot of time alone.
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:37 pm
Shikalee Otakugyrl Shikalee Oh, I see. You're understanding about other people's views. Gotya. surprised But uh... I hate to say it, but fans of certain characters can't help but be somewhat biased. My friend is a Kakashi fan, and though he likes other characters, he always prioritizes his favorite. I also get a little sad if I tease him. I need a real guy to tease. Teasing a fake guy gets no reaction. It's almost sort of lonely. Yeah. I remember that, too. And Kakuzu clearly heard at least some of it because he said something along the lines of, "Impressive, yes, that is my weakness..." A lot of people say Shikamaru is the kind of guy who just "goes with the flow." That's what he wants us to think. The guy is always taking risks. Treading where he never has socially, physically, and mentally. So are the others, but in a way Shikamaru is sort of testing the water. Because he is scared of some things, he feels as though he will fail. This subconscious fear commonly leads to failure (not just for him but for people in general), and so he is devastated and sort of has this, "I knew it" reaction. I'd say his lack of enthusiasm is from a lack of care. His parents are literally so busy/wrapped up in each other I wouldn't be surprised if he was ignored a lot. He had to become very independent fast and it started to become every time he saw his father it was just for training. The only quality time they really have anymore is when they tend the deer, and even then his dad is probably still rambling on about his son's training and upcoming missions... A Ninja family is a busy family, but particularly his because it is so small. A family like Kiba's has a lot of room for affection and comfort, which is why he is such a motivated guy. (Again, this is all just speculation on my part.) A happy person is not unmotivated. If Shikamaru was happy, he'd be more passionate about his work. Something bothers him on a regular basis. Did I spell it "brians?" Just wondering. Shikamaru is smart. But he's ignorant. He does some of the most obvious things... The boy has a wisdom of 4 and a charisma of 6. He'll never make it in life if he can't figure s**t out! xd
xDDD Unless you intentionally do it to a rabid fangirl or fanboy xDD That'll give you a reaction xD;
Ahh. That's right. *frowns* Okay. Well, that just pushes it up to stupid-ish move xD Though, Kakuzu and Hidan are so (over) confident, that they could probably care less if they try to plan something out.
That is another very interesting and good point on Shikamaru. Is there a *good* site that you know of that talks specifically about the characters - that's official? I know there are a few books out, but do you know of a site that states what's in those books -- in English -- and all? It sounds like an interesting opinion/group of thoughts on Shikamaru and his reasons. Especially with comparing Kiba's situation briefly. And a very interesting point to bring up "If Shikamaru was happy, he'd be more passionate about his work." Very true.
xD No, I think you spelled it right 9.9; Unless I spelled it wrong? ^^; xDDD Lack of proper interaction with people could be affecting that. I wonder how often he spends time with anyone outside of ninja-work. Or just lazing about with Chouji. xD;I suppose that makes you better than me... I don't know if you've ever felt this, but when I talk to Shikamaru fans, they sort of act like they have to impress him more than me. Even though he's not real. Am I just crazy? Yeah... I'm crazy. xd Reaction from Shi... He's A DRAWING! D:< Shikamaru was too full of himself to realize he was ruining his own plan. He's very lucky that his enemies are always complete morons. Heh, thanks. I read the character books, and I've collected a lot of notes over the year...s? It's only been about a year and a half that I started collect them. I've also made my own observations from parts of the manga I've read. My points are valid, but not necessarily true. But yeah... I've kind of analyzed Shikamaru TO DEATH. See, he's always been a lot like me. Too much in common. Of course it's a coincidence. But to read about it and see how close the coincidence was would be astonishing. No doubt do we have differences, but we have far more similarities. It's VERY CREEPY. O_O;; Naw. You just said, "Brains?" So I was suddenly filled with the fear that I spelled it wrong. xd But yeah, Shikamaru's socialization seems moderate. Hanging out with Temari when she's in Konoha, Chouji sometimes, rarely Naruto... he's becoming more and more busy and spends a lot of time alone.
xDD Ah yes, but *to try to counter that* all characters are based off of realistic traits up to a point, so not just a drawing. Mwha---err... >_>; It's true? xD
xD Well... would Temari count as an enemy at one pont? She wasn't a complete moron razz But, I get that point.
Ahhh. Nice. I sometimes look into those things, but it depends on time and resources. Mhm. As far as "true", to me, unless it's printed in "black and white" - aka creator says so - it's all mostly opinions anyways. If that makes sense? xD Oh yes, to find a character with that much similarities to you? In a sense it's cool to understand the character (possibly) better, but it's also very creepy. I know that feeling.
Oh! No no. xD Nothing like that *bows* Sorry xD He needs to spend some time with people outside of missions.
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:10 pm
Otakugyrl Shikalee Otakugyrl Shikalee Oh, I see. You're understanding about other people's views. Gotya. surprised But uh... I hate to say it, but fans of certain characters can't help but be somewhat biased. My friend is a Kakashi fan, and though he likes other characters, he always prioritizes his favorite. I also get a little sad if I tease him. I need a real guy to tease. Teasing a fake guy gets no reaction. It's almost sort of lonely. Yeah. I remember that, too. And Kakuzu clearly heard at least some of it because he said something along the lines of, "Impressive, yes, that is my weakness..." A lot of people say Shikamaru is the kind of guy who just "goes with the flow." That's what he wants us to think. The guy is always taking risks. Treading where he never has socially, physically, and mentally. So are the others, but in a way Shikamaru is sort of testing the water. Because he is scared of some things, he feels as though he will fail. This subconscious fear commonly leads to failure (not just for him but for people in general), and so he is devastated and sort of has this, "I knew it" reaction. I'd say his lack of enthusiasm is from a lack of care. His parents are literally so busy/wrapped up in each other I wouldn't be surprised if he was ignored a lot. He had to become very independent fast and it started to become every time he saw his father it was just for training. The only quality time they really have anymore is when they tend the deer, and even then his dad is probably still rambling on about his son's training and upcoming missions... A Ninja family is a busy family, but particularly his because it is so small. A family like Kiba's has a lot of room for affection and comfort, which is why he is such a motivated guy. (Again, this is all just speculation on my part.) A happy person is not unmotivated. If Shikamaru was happy, he'd be more passionate about his work. Something bothers him on a regular basis. Did I spell it "brians?" Just wondering. Shikamaru is smart. But he's ignorant. He does some of the most obvious things... The boy has a wisdom of 4 and a charisma of 6. He'll never make it in life if he can't figure s**t out! xd
xDDD Unless you intentionally do it to a rabid fangirl or fanboy xDD That'll give you a reaction xD;
Ahh. That's right. *frowns* Okay. Well, that just pushes it up to stupid-ish move xD Though, Kakuzu and Hidan are so (over) confident, that they could probably care less if they try to plan something out.
That is another very interesting and good point on Shikamaru. Is there a *good* site that you know of that talks specifically about the characters - that's official? I know there are a few books out, but do you know of a site that states what's in those books -- in English -- and all? It sounds like an interesting opinion/group of thoughts on Shikamaru and his reasons. Especially with comparing Kiba's situation briefly. And a very interesting point to bring up "If Shikamaru was happy, he'd be more passionate about his work." Very true.
xD No, I think you spelled it right 9.9; Unless I spelled it wrong? ^^; xDDD Lack of proper interaction with people could be affecting that. I wonder how often he spends time with anyone outside of ninja-work. Or just lazing about with Chouji. xD;I suppose that makes you better than me... I don't know if you've ever felt this, but when I talk to Shikamaru fans, they sort of act like they have to impress him more than me. Even though he's not real. Am I just crazy? Yeah... I'm crazy. xd Reaction from Shi... He's A DRAWING! D:< Shikamaru was too full of himself to realize he was ruining his own plan. He's very lucky that his enemies are always complete morons. Heh, thanks. I read the character books, and I've collected a lot of notes over the year...s? It's only been about a year and a half that I started collect them. I've also made my own observations from parts of the manga I've read. My points are valid, but not necessarily true. But yeah... I've kind of analyzed Shikamaru TO DEATH. See, he's always been a lot like me. Too much in common. Of course it's a coincidence. But to read about it and see how close the coincidence was would be astonishing. No doubt do we have differences, but we have far more similarities. It's VERY CREEPY. O_O;; Naw. You just said, "Brains?" So I was suddenly filled with the fear that I spelled it wrong. xd But yeah, Shikamaru's socialization seems moderate. Hanging out with Temari when she's in Konoha, Chouji sometimes, rarely Naruto... he's becoming more and more busy and spends a lot of time alone.
xDD Ah yes, but *to try to counter that* all characters are based off of realistic traits up to a point, so not just a drawing. Mwha---err... >_>; It's true? xD
xD Well... would Temari count as an enemy at one pont? She wasn't a complete moron razz But, I get that point.
Ahhh. Nice. I sometimes look into those things, but it depends on time and resources. Mhm. As far as "true", to me, unless it's printed in "black and white" - aka creator says so - it's all mostly opinions anyways. If that makes sense? xD Oh yes, to find a character with that much similarities to you? In a sense it's cool to understand the character (possibly) better, but it's also very creepy. I know that feeling.
Oh! No no. xD Nothing like that *bows* Sorry xD He needs to spend some time with people outside of missions.I'm not sure what that means. Why would a fangirl be threatened by my name? So you think he's real? God, if you weren't so nice, I'd say you were a real piece of work. He's a drawing. He's not real. Get over it sista... >.>;; Madly in love with the guy as I've been, I know he'll never be a part of my life. His personality is pretty unrealistic. Not to mention that it's hard to tell some of the fakes from the real thing. People model their whole lives after him because they're so envious. Temari was pretty dumb. She underestimated him. True, schmue. Kishimoto knows better than anyone that Shikamaru is a figment of his imagination, yours, and mine. There is no truth to him, because he is perfectly dynamic. That's the benefit of being fictional; it doesn't matter. Anyway, the similarities were striking. Not like your regular fan. MOST fans fake it, are wanna bes, pretend they're just like a character. With me, it was a scare. I knew someone who had read Naruto for 5 or 6 years, somewhere around there. I hadn't seen her for a couple years and we reunited. She said the more she talked to me the more I sounded like this character. I was a little confused, but ignored it. About a year later I looked into Naruto myself. Read a lot of the manga. Saw his name, it rang a bell. I felt kind of sick to my stomach at first, looking around corners making sure I wasn't being stalked. The similarities were, as I already said, shocking. I never thought such a coincidence could ever occur. Yeah. He is kind of lost, as most students are. By students I mean those seeking philosophy, the meaning of life, the mechanics of the human mind. Shikamaru has hit the stage of, "Who cares? What does it matter?" xd It takes a while to get out of that pothole.
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:39 pm
Shikalee I'm not sure what that means. Why would a fangirl be threatened by my name? So you think he's real? God, if you weren't so nice, I'd say you were a real piece of work. He's a drawing. He's not real. Get over it sista... >.>;; Madly in love with the guy as I've been, I know he'll never be a part of my life. His personality is pretty unrealistic. Not to mention that it's hard to tell some of the fakes from the real thing. People model their whole lives after him because they're so envious. Temari was pretty dumb. She underestimated him. True, schmue. Kishimoto knows better than anyone that Shikamaru is a figment of his imagination, yours, and mine. There is no truth to him, because he is perfectly dynamic. That's the benefit of being fictional; it doesn't matter. Anyway, the similarities were striking. Not like your regular fan. MOST fans fake it, are wanna bes, pretend they're just like a character. With me, it was a scare. I knew someone who had read Naruto for 5 or 6 years, somewhere around there. I hadn't seen her for a couple years and we reunited. She said the more she talked to me the more I sounded like this character. I was a little confused, but ignored it. About a year later I looked into Naruto myself. Read a lot of the manga. Saw his name, it rang a bell. I felt kind of sick to my stomach at first, looking around corners making sure I wasn't being stalked. The similarities were, as I already said, shocking. I never thought such a coincidence could ever occur. Yeah. He is kind of lost, as most students are. By students I mean those seeking philosophy, the meaning of life, the mechanics of the human mind. Shikamaru has hit the stage of, "Who cares? What does it matter?" xd It takes a while to get out of that pothole.
Real? I never once said I thought Shikamaru himself was real. redface Sorry. My phrasing seems to cause many a misunderstanding. However, personality traits are based off of real people. After all, you said it yourself that you shared some similarities with him - even though he is a fictionarl character. Outside of the using the technique's used, there are some basics of his personality that can be found in various people; maybe not just one, though. As for telling the fakes from the real? That is hard. I've seen people pretend to be something they're not constantly. Not that I would mind if he were real. Haha.
Now, I wouldn't say Temari was dumb. Dumb in underestimating him - yes. But, not dumb.
It does happen, though. Rare as it may seem. I've known a few people that I've compared to fictionarl characters that they've seen it themselves. Sometimes, faint comparisons. Sometimes strong ones that can "freak" the person out.
LoL Yes, it does. Do you think that Kishimoto will dig into Shikamaru to bring him out of that level?
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