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 Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:47 pm
stellarmagic Wait... I'm not that big. 300 Warships isn't enough to carve out much. Thats about a Star Destroyer and support ships. Cale Darksun Marr has been doing just that with less. And Power isnt measured just in military strength, especially for a criminal empire.
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:55 pm
stellarmagic I really dislike playing the straight up bad guy. That's why I avoided a Sith command earlier, and why Borill Elsyn and my other Imperial Character were designed as professional soldiers. Hmm... I should come up with a bit more complex reason for the character's desire to carve an empire of his own then simple greed.
I apologize if I haven't been doing this portrayal as well as I could have. It's my first time trying to play a character that complex.
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:56 pm
Ugh. No one wants to play a bad guy.
I should have just taken the role when this started. I would have won the war already.
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:45 pm
Aurin_Starkiller stellarmagic Wait... I'm not that big. 300 Warships isn't enough to carve out much. Thats about a Star Destroyer and support ships. It's about fleet construction and composition on a galactic level. As a rough rule, every ship is supported by 6 vessels of a size classification smaller then itself. This means that a single star destroyer will have on average: 6 Heavy Frigates 36 Light Frigates 216 Heavy Corvettes 1296 Light Corvettes or Fighters This means that theoretically, the largest ship I should be able to field is a Heavy Frigate. If I have a top heavy force or one with just the extremes (I own a Star Cruiser so the I'm certainly very weak in some areas) I'll be vulnerable, and those heavier ships will be especially vulnerable. Additionally, 300 Star Destroyer class ships may be a powerful weapon, but 300 Star Corvettes is merely a very large convoy.
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:48 pm
Cale Darksun Ugh. No one wants to play a bad guy. I should have just taken the role when this started. I would have won the war already. Maybe, maybe not... Well, actually you probably would have so long as I'd stayed out of playing your opposition. Most people are just as unwilling to play a straight good (I personally dislike playing Jedi period so I'd have been forced either in a merc role or an officer role just the same)
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:50 pm
stellarmagic Aurin_Starkiller stellarmagic Wait... I'm not that big. 300 Warships isn't enough to carve out much. Thats about a Star Destroyer and support ships. It's about fleet construction and composition on a galactic level. As a rough rule, every ship is supported by 6 vessels of a size classification smaller then itself. This means that a single star destroyer will have on average: 6 Heavy Frigates 36 Light Frigates 216 Heavy Corvettes 1296 Light Corvettes or Fighters This means that theoretically, the largest ship I should be able to field is a Heavy Frigate. If I have a top heavy force or one with just the extremes (I own a Star Cruiser so the I'm certainly very weak in some areas) I'll be vulnerable, and those heavier ships will be especially vulnerable. Additionally, 300 Star Destroyer class ships may be a powerful weapon, but 300 Star Corvettes is merely a very large convoy. The error here, is that you're basing your ship organization on that of the Empire. This isnt the Empire. Fleet Organization varies from Government to government.
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:55 pm
No I'm not Cale, that scale is firepower based for maximum coverage and flexibility. The Rebel Alliance did the same thing, as do all navies. In fact it was even more obvious in the case of the rebels because they tended to concentrate their small task forces together instead of sending the lighter ships on independent patrol or reconnaissance for the larger force.
Even we, the united states does that. We have 6 aircraft carriers, which are always escorted by 6 destroyers, with 6 frigates for every one of those destroyers in the area providing ocean security and conducting simple maritime patrol.
The difference is the maximum size vessel that can be supported, because that number is determined by how many smaller vessels you have.
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:57 pm
So the Athenians had six rowboats guarding each trireme at Salamis?
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:05 pm
No, but they had how many fishing boats in the harbor and how many biremes were there per trireme?
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:10 pm
stellarmagic No, but they had how many fishing boats in the harbor and how many biremes were there per trireme? What Harbor? And all records indicate only Triremes were used.
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:14 pm
How many rowboats does it require to move food to onto a trireme? That ships only the second rung on the ladder, there is nothing that is required to support them besides supply ships.
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:21 pm
Considering triremes can pull into port by themselves and land on beaches, none.
Stellar, you've already lost this arguement.
Not everyone uses this little organizational scheme of yours.
While it may have emerged in the run up to the clone wars as a sound organization and enforced by the strongest Military Power in the Galaxy, 1500 years before Yavin it does not have to exist and can not be expected to be adopted by all military powers.
Individual goverments, weither for good or ill, build their fleets as they see fit, especially during this Dark Age.
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Darkened Angel Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:41 pm
If things go as planned and Saria ends up a frozen carbonite decoration on Demaia's ship, Nemesis will go on a rampage against the Sith in search of her, probably decimating a few worlds in the process.
If so, it wouldn't be too unreasonable that the Sith would wanna bolster their forces with whatever they can, because at least at the time, they wouldn't be entirely sure what they're up against. That could at least partially explain the mercs on the Sith side, if that's how it goes.
Once Saria gets rescued, she could probably be put to use helping recovery efforts on a strained Republic military, and Nemesis could possibly be a tactical advisor to some degree. Considering she spent a century or so as a Sith demon in a crazed bloodlust for power, she'd have some understanding on how the Sith operate.
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:49 pm
But would they trust her?
As you said, she spent a century as a Sith.
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:00 pm
Darkened Angel If things go as planned and Saria ends up a frozen carbonite decoration on Demaia's ship, Nemesis will go on a rampage against the Sith in search of her, probably decimating a few worlds in the process. If so, it wouldn't be too unreasonable that the Sith would wanna bolster their forces with whatever they can, because at least at the time, they wouldn't be entirely sure what they're up against. That could at least partially explain the mercs on the Sith side, if that's how it goes. Once Saria gets rescued, she could probably be put to use helping recovery efforts on a strained Republic military, and Nemesis could possibly be a tactical advisor to some degree. Considering she spent a century or so as a Sith demon in a crazed bloodlust for power, she'd have some understanding on how the Sith operate. Nemesis wouldn’t be the only one going after Saria ninja I’m just not in the habit of letting someone turn my charters into a wall furnishing unless I'm being payed for it.
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