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Britomartis-the-Valiant

PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:14 am


Zaaki
Britomartis-the-Valiant
Zaaki
Britomartis-the-Valiant
Zaaki

I figured it out by people like u stare


Ummm, pardon?
Just what kind of person do you think I am?

A non-muslim?


Non-Muslims aren't all alike. neutral

Yea, but you still ain't muslim right?

The world isn't divided into two groups, Muslims and non-Muslims, nor is it divided into two groups; Christians and non-Christians.
I'm not sure you'd like to be lumped with the general population of non-Christians.
And yes, I'm a Christian. ^^
PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:29 am


Britomartis-the-Valiant
Zaaki
Britomartis-the-Valiant
Zaaki
Britomartis-the-Valiant
Zaaki

I figured it out by people like u stare


Ummm, pardon?
Just what kind of person do you think I am?

A non-muslim?


Non-Muslims aren't all alike. neutral

Yea, but you still ain't muslim right?

The world isn't divided into two groups, Muslims and non-Muslims, nor is it divided into two groups; Christians and non-Christians.
I'm not sure you'd like to be lumped with the general population of non-Christians.
And yes, I'm a Christian. ^^

But talking about topic, you are a non-muslim 3nodding

Zaakii


Britomartis-the-Valiant

PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:01 pm


Zaaki
Britomartis-the-Valiant
Zaaki
Britomartis-the-Valiant
Zaaki

A non-muslim?


Non-Muslims aren't all alike. neutral

Yea, but you still ain't muslim right?

The world isn't divided into two groups, Muslims and non-Muslims, nor is it divided into two groups; Christians and non-Christians.
I'm not sure you'd like to be lumped with the general population of non-Christians.
And yes, I'm a Christian. ^^

But talking about topic, you are a non-muslim 3nodding


. . . And?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:26 am


I don't know razz Cause i forgot the topic rofl rofl rofl rofl

And i'm too lazy to go and look...

Any questions?

Zaakii


Mini_Angel_1994

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:09 pm


Bismillah ---
Nope! But I haven't been on this post for ages! What was the last point of discussion anyways?

--- Salam!
PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:46 pm


Mini_Angel_1994
Al salamu alaykom;

The best thing that I've ever done in my life, is that I wore Hijab, I'm very proud of it. But the one thing I can't understand, why do girls delay it when they're like in university! I mean Hijab is really important!! Every girl should try putting Hijab on, and it's not as bad as it seems. It protects us. I can't really seem to understand what is wrong with Hijab? The only reason I wore it at my age ( I'm going to be 14 on 25th of October ) Is because my parents said it was too early for you, and wear it when you feel most ready. So I did it! I know every human is a sinner, but shouldn't you just stop your sins and do whatever Allah tells you?

Try it, just try it, and the thawab will be yours, and remember, it is an order from Allah, you're disobeying Allah!! Isn't he the only worthy to be worshiped? Then why don't you worship him in the way he wants?

I can't seem to understand; so those who doesn't wear hijab, why don't you wear it? Is something wrong with it?

Just let us imagine, that if the whole girls in the world, wore hijab, wouldn't it just be the greatest thing?

i can give you a video about this subject if you like it will answer all your question or u can pm me about it

XxXZero_BeatXxX


The Dead Terrorist Achmed

PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:09 pm


Quite frankly, I'm disgusted by the arguing going on in the thread.

A women who covers her head does not make her more moral than a woman who does not. How am I to know that there is a viper beneath the cloth when I cannot see a woman's true colors? Just as well, why should I, no, not just I, but any good Muslim, judge a woman's character based upon her appearance?

Did not the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) tell men to marry a woman based on her character, her religious values....? This emphasis on the hijab, this almost idol-like dedication is ridiculous; where there is discrimination and self-assured superiority because one is a Muslim. The hijab is a piece of cloth, that is all. A command of Allah (swt) made special. A tradition of humans has degraded it.

Allah (swt) has made humans, we are His Creation...yet some people dare to claim they are better because they are Muslim, that their rules are superior in every aspect to someone else's because of Allah (swt). This is wrong. We are mere humans, imperfect creatures; what right to we have judge the plight of others?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:30 am


Bismillah ---

I totally disagree, Allah told us women to wear hijab, not only hijab, but to also cover the body. I was talking in the thread, not only about covering your head, but to also cover the body. Which is more important to cover your body in my own prospective. Anyways, we all know now why are we supposed to cover ourselves. But this piece of cloth you're talking about, isn't just a piece of cloth, it comes with a whole pakage! It comes with the ways you're supposed to act. I'm not crazy to do something without knowing why should I do it. I eat because I'm hungry. And I wear hijab because I know it keeps me away from sins. ( I'm talking about hijab about the body ). The hair hijab, I know that Allah said to wear hijab, and I worship Allah. It doesn't make sense to obey him in one way, and disobey him in other.

And I think that, when I dress like .. Sayedatna fatema al zahra, for example, you know, that by dressing like that I'm imitating her apperance, then.. The inner heart will also start to imitate her faith. That should keep me more connected to Allah in more than one way.


--- Salam

Mini_Angel_1994


The Dead Terrorist Achmed

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:09 pm


Mini_Angel_1994


I totally disagree, Allah told us women to wear hijab, not only hijab, but to also cover the body.
I was talking in the thread, not only about covering your head, but to also cover the body.

You misread me. I said cloth. Cloth implies anything that is man made material that covers the body. Clothing is derived from the general word cloth. Therefore when I say "cloth" and not "piece of cloth" I am referring to clothing as a whole.


Mini_Angel_1994
And I wear hijab because I know it keeps me away from sins. ( I'm talking about hijab about the body ). The hair hijab, I know that Allah said to wear hijab, and I worship Allah.

This is where I disagree. Are you so morally weak that you have to wear certain clothing to "keep you away from sins"? I thought women were more intelligent than that.

Mini_Angel_1994
And I think that, when I dress like .. Sayedatna fatema al zahra, for example, you know, that by dressing like that I'm imitating her apperance, then.. The inner heart will also start to imitate her faith. That should keep me more connected to Allah in more than one way.
Why should you have to mimic her appearance in order to become a more faithful person? Have you no will?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:28 pm


My guess is the stare of boys is distracting. Don't say that hair is not beautiful...I have arguements against that. When a girl is so in love with a boy, other things just, well, they don't matter. When a lot of girls fall in love, they don't notice any other thing. I knew someone whose grades dropped. I blame it on hormones. Lucky for me, I don't have this problem.

When you aren't going out to attact some boy and go on a date, you have more time to focus on Allah/God. Honestly, do you know what some girls go through in a day to make themselves look beautiful? I know girls that get up at 5 A.M in the morning to get ready for school. Appricate that please.

Yeah, so this probably doesn't follow the Qur'an because I'm not Muslim, but that is what I understand of it.

ffdarkangel


Mini_Angel_1994

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:11 am


Bismillah ---

Dead Terrorist, Allah created us weak. And satan runs through your blood telling you to do bad things, in everything you do. Maybe it's too much. But better safe than sorry, am I right? And, well, if Allah made us have strong will, then there will be by now world peace, the Arabian world would do so much better than now. And everything would be perfect. If everybody had will, then there wouldn't be good and bad, there wouldn't be better or worse.


Dark Angel, yeah well, hair is beautiful, but it's not a good enough excuse for us to wear hijab. And yes, I know, my classmates do their hair everyday, and like make it curly, each day a new hairstyle. But me, I just roll my scarf over and rush to school!

--- Salam
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:56 am


Mini_Angel_1994


Dead Terrorist, Allah created us weak.
That is one of the worst excuses I have ever heard. I'm disgusted by this reply. I really am. So what if humans are weak in comparasion to the wonders and glory of Allah? We are not gods, we are humans! We are capable of independent thought, we can think and rationalize. Allah did not leave us so weak as to not be able to stand up for ourselves.


Mini_Angel_1994

And satan runs through your blood telling you to do bad things, in everything you do.
So what? Allah (swt) gave us a mind, he gave us heart, he gave us courage, he gave us a soul. He gave us access to his blessings and strength. We are not strong all the time, but we have the capacity to be strong, InshAllah. Stop making excuses for failures in the past, especially ones that we cannot control, and work on fixing the present and the future. If we always dwell on the unfixable problems, then nothing will ever get done.


Mini_Angel_1994

Maybe it's too much. But better safe than sorry, am I right?
No. You are dwelling on the illusion of safety instead of dealing with the problem directly.



Mini_Angel_1994

And, well, if Allah made us have strong will, then there will be by now world peace, the Arabian world would do so much better than now.

No, that is not the case. People are strong willed and have their own definition of what will bring peace to the world. Why do you think people fight? Why do you think tyrants rise in even religious countries? They are strong willed people who bring the illusion of peace. Those that oppose them are silenced, and the rest are lead around by the nose, like sheep waiting for slaughter.

The Dead Terrorist Achmed


Mini_Angel_1994

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:39 am


Bismillah ---

You are muslim, right? I don't believe that you are saying that. Allah created us for this reason, to deference between those who believe, and those who do not believe. Doesn't matter if you have strong will, or not, Allah told you to do something, you must do it. Above everything else! Whether if you are convinced with the reason, or not.

Allah created us weak, that's a fact. And Allah created us to work hard, everything we do needs an effort from us. Even protecting ourselves from sins. That's not an excuse!! That's a fact, if you're not convinced with it, then nothing in Islam will make sense to you! Will is determined in how much a person have as faith. And frankly, I'm not going to put myself at risk. If you now do a research about everything Islam commands, then you'll find it for your best only. You as a muslim should be convinced with that.

Hijab comes as a command in the first place, Islamic identy the second place, and comes as a protection for us muslims thirdly. Not protection from rape as most of you understand it this way. It's to keep us protected from sins. Not the physical hijab only, I'm talking about the spirtual hijab too.

--- Salam.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:33 am


Mini_Angel_1994

Hijab comes as a command in the first place, Islamic identy the second place, and comes as a protection for us muslims thirdly. Not protection from rape as most of you understand it this way. It's to keep us protected from sins. Not the physical hijab only, I'm talking about the spirtual hijab too.

--- Salam.


Spiritual hijab?
In Christianity we've got shields of faith and helmets of salvation and breastplates of righteousness. . . and you've got a spiritual hijab. I think it needs an upgrade, no offense. sweatdrop

Britomartis-the-Valiant


The Dead Terrorist Achmed

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:22 am


Mini_Angel_1994
Doesn't matter if you have strong will, or not, Allah told you to do something, you must do it. Above everything else! Whether if you are convinced with the reason, or not.
If Allah made it a command that certain girls must jump off a cliff by the age of 13, would you have gone with it? If it was in the Qu'ran and commanded by Allah?
Don't say Allah wouldn't command it to happen, just answer a hypothetical question!

Mini_Angel_1994
Allah created us weak, that's a fact. And Allah created us to work hard, everything we do needs an effort from us. Even protecting ourselves from sins. That's not an excuse!! That's a fact, if you're not convinced with it, then nothing in Islam will make sense to you! Will is determined in how much a person have as faith. And frankly, I'm not going to put myself at risk. If you now do a research about everything Islam commands, then you'll find it for your best only. You as a muslim should be convinced with that.
My dedication in Allah is not a blind one where I refuse to think and ponder Allah's commands. I am so sick of people killing, using the Shariah as a reason for killing, USING ALLAH'S COMMANDS FOR THEIR OWN BENEFIT, because people are too scared to say otherwise. That is what weak human nature disgusts me. That people are too frightened to stand up to what is truly good and right, and instead rely on centuries of tradition that is ridiculously abused. I cannot accept Allah without the concepts of mercy and justice, yet here, even ordinary Muslims will accept tradition of Allah's commands that are cruel, and think nothing of it; because it was commanded by Allah.
Mini_Angel_1994
Hijab comes as a command in the first place, Islamic identy the second place, and comes as a protection for us muslims thirdly. Not protection from rape as most of you understand it this way. It's to keep us protected from sins. Not the physical hijab only, I'm talking about the spirtual hijab too.

Spiritual hijab i understand. Physical hijab worn only by women and so easily abused, that is what I have a problem with.
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