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 Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:28 am
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:59 am
i got a new hating picture lol
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:59 am
The_Pathan i got a new hating picture lol Don't post hating pictures...please stare
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:50 am
Absurd Thought Zaaki Making up your own sources dosen't count? She was telling her opinion!
She was saying that she didn't need to learn about people whom she's criticizing. That is ignorance, that is arrogance about one's own opinion. I was pointing that out.
I might as well talk about how horrible Islam is if you're going to justify her opinion. I haven't studied Islam that much but from what I've learned I can easily claim that its a brainwashing, horrible cult. But I'm not, because I'm willing to learn from other people what Islam is. Mini_Angel, on the other hand has claimed that homosexuals are mentally disturbed, has insinuated that there is something "wrong" with them, while refusing to learn about homosexuality in depth; and instead categorizing them as all bad people an sinners. With that sort of logic, I can claim that all Muslims are terrorists as long as she keeps up her banter, and you too, for refusing to learn about people who are different than you. Well aren’t you the ignorant little puppy! I have a cute little riddle for you. You harass that poor girl for her ignorance of homos and yet you are ignorant of Islam yourself and continue to make an argument based on weak facts. Let me tell you my dear that hadith, convincing though it may be, must only be taken if the prophet or the Sahaba say them. True Muslims follow the Quran and what the Mohammad(PBUH) says. Moreover, you say that Muslims are a brainwashing cult and yet you only wish to see us as the media portrays, never to delve into the true religion. I respect the fact that you are willing to learn about the religion however you want to learn about what solidifies your belief that Islam is horrible and shut your ears to those who try to explain that Islam is in fact a pure and peace-loving religion no matter what anyone says. Therein lies my riddle: who are the ones being brainwashed? If I were to be as ridiculously artless as you are and view the Christians as you wish to view Muslims then you are nothing but drunken people who go around having sex willy-nilly, getting pregnant at your teens and dumping your baby at the first orphanage for a homo to come and pick up. It is people who think like that that spread the hatred and disease. Thankfully god blessed me with an open mind and I respect ALL religions, be they Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity or Jewish. Also, the Quran was finished before Mohammad (PBUH) died. It was memorized, but never fully written until after his death. As a matter of fact that’s when the prophet knew it was his time to die; when the Quran was completed that’s when he knew that his message was delivered. Last but not least, what do you mean Islam should “update itself”. My goodness, such insolence you have to presume that the word of God is not final! That you or even the greatest holy of people has any right to presume that God, the all prefect, should update himself?! That you, a mere being that God has created from mud, should take it upon yourself to correct him! How impudent can you get?
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:46 pm
lil_tulip [Well aren’t you the ignorant little puppy! I have a cute little riddle for you. You harass that poor girl for her ignorance of homos and yet you are ignorant of Islam yourself and continue to make an argument based on weak facts. lil_tulip Moreover, you say that Muslims are a brainwashing cult and yet you only wish to see us as the media portrays, never to delve into the true religion. lil_tulip I respect the fact that you are willing to learn about the religion however you want to learn about what solidifies your belief that Islam is horrible and shut your ears to those who try to explain that Islam is in fact a pure and peace-loving religion no matter what anyone says.
I'll save the time in waiting for the answer to that question
-Mini said many things about homosexuals that have been outdated for several decades now and have been medically verified as untrue.
-I pointed out that she was wrong and needed to get up to date on what psychologists say about homosexuality
-She refused and continues to keep it up that homosexuals are X,Y, and Z and are bad bad bad bad.
So on that childish notion, I said that keeping up such a belief concerning homosexuality is equivalent to me saying that Muslims are terrorists and brainwashed morons. It DOESN'T MAKE SENSE EITHER WAY. that was the point I was trying to bring up.lil_tulip Therein lies my riddle: who are the ones being brainwashed? If I were to be as ridiculously artless as you are and view the Christians as you wish to view Muslims then you are nothing but drunken people who go around having sex willy-nilly, getting pregnant at your teens and dumping your baby at the first orphanage for a homo to come and pick up. It is people who think like that that spread the hatred and disease.
You're using the exact same point as I did concerning Mini-Angel. Congrats. You now know sarcasm. How did you get to this point AND conclude that I believe that Muslim are featherbrained idiots? lil_tulip Also, the Quran was finished before Mohammad (PBUH) died. It was memorized, but never fully written until after his death. As a matter of fact that’s when the prophet knew it was his time to die; when the Quran was completed that’s when he knew that his message was delivered. lil_tulip Last but not least, what do you mean Islam should “update itself”. My goodness, such insolence you have to presume that the word of God is not final!
I also forgot to mention that I meant TRADITION and not holy scriptures. Right now I see Islam acting as an immovable force against the unstoppable force of time. Keeping up a 12th century mindset is not going to make a religion alive. I personally see Islam as being stagnant in the faith by refusing point blank to adapt. Does it change my mentality towards Muslims? Only to those who refuse to think outside the box.
lil_tulip That you or even the greatest holy of people has any right to presume that God, the all prefect, should update himself?!
Half of the problems that arise in Islam wouldn't be so damn of a problem if people got it in their heads to organize themselves, and have some consistency.
Shoot, I see all sorts of scholars ripping themselves apart because some say that you should kill someone for leaving Islam, that you should kill a girl who has been raped if she cannot provide enough evidence in shariah court to verify that she wasn't fornicating, that child marriages STILL happen. There's so many damn ways to understand your word of God that people are KILLING each other for having the "wrong" interpretation of God.
What time are we ******** in now? Hmm? We're not in 12th Century, we're not in the Crusades, it's not the Inquisition. Christianity managed to evolve and get beyond a killing spree for disagreements and get a rein on the nutbags who attempted to continue killing in the name of God, Jesus, the Trinity, whatever....and we CHANGED so we could GROW deeper in our relationship with God. Not all the fundamentals mind you, just some pruning to further the growth of the Church. I'm talking about Catholicism. I can't justify for the other Christian churches.
when the hell is that going to happen for Islam without some changes to the faith? Where is this control of the idiots who make Islam look bad? lil_tulip That you, a mere being that God has created from mud, should take it upon yourself to correct him! How impudent can you get?
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:08 am
Firstly: for what she said about homos, i agree with you that it was an ignorant response. However even I, who has looked deeper into the subject could see that at times they can't help it, born with messed up hormones that affect their psych. I don't see it as a justification to kill every homo you see, they should be reformed not punished for something God gave them. On the other hand, people who choose to be bisexual should be punished if they refuse to be helped. I'm on the fence when it comes to homos.
Secondly: Now you're making sense. I agree with you 100% that it's the Islamic CULTURE that needs to change, not the religion itself. If you really want to know the true Islam i highly suggest you check out the Sheik Mohammad Hussein Fadl-Allah, he studies the LOGIC behind Islam. Did you know that that killing the raped girl issue happens only in extreeeeeeeeemm countries like KSA however here in Lebanon they are WAAAAYYYYYY more logical. The Sheik's here are far more logical and I would love to discuss with you some of what he said, cuz it turns out that Islam is far more modern than the cultures that adopt it.
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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:06 pm
lil_tulip Firstly: for what she said about homos, i agree with you that it was an ignorant response. However even I, who has looked deeper into the subject could see that at times they can't help it, born with messed up hormones that affect their psych. I don't see it as a justification to kill every homo you see, they should be reformed not punished for something God gave them. On the other hand, people who choose to be bisexual should be punished if they refuse to be helped. I'm on the fence when it comes to homos.
Adultery I can understand.
sexual abuse I can understand.
Making both parties responsible if a girl gets pregnant or someone gets sick with and STD.
But other than that, why should ANYBODY care who someone is screwing around with? I mean, really, how do you expect to "save" anyone's soul when you're busy punishing them?
I mean, really that whole thing in Shariah law about killing those who are gay, how's that supposed to save that person's soul if you kill them?
lil_tulip Secondly: Now you're making sense. I agree with you 100% that it's the Islamic CULTURE that needs to change, not the religion itself. If you really want to know the true Islam i highly suggest you check out the Sheik Mohammad Hussein Fadl-Allah, he studies the LOGIC behind Islam. Did you know that that killing the raped girl issue happens only in extreeeeeeeeemm countries like KSA however here in Lebanon they are WAAAAYYYYYY more logical. The Sheik's here are far more logical and I would love to discuss with you some of what he said, cuz it turns out that Islam is far more modern than the cultures that adopt it.
But when Muslims start being extreme in the West, I get worried.
Canada
Britian
Britain
Texas
It's not just in extreme countries anymore. The plague of extremist Islam has migrated to further shores. =/
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