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 Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:18 pm
Voldemort point two Jin Saga Jesus Also Says " Do Good, and I will guide you to the Paradise of my Father " Verse reference? Are you telling me now.. that Jesus doesnt use the word Father in his Bible. or the Kingdom of his Father?... Oke Vond.. Thats it. The only thing u do in this "debate" is go to internet... google > Bible verse > and post stare Ive had it with ur stupidty ... LOOK UP LOOK AT THE BIBLE MISTAKES LOOK AT THE WONDERS OF THE ISLAM LOOK AT THE PROVE OF THE ISLAM ... WHAT DO U BRING .. NOTHING U HAVENT BROUGHT 1 PROVE OF UR RELIGION EXCEPT FOR UR UNRELIABLE BOOK. So ... Im ending this "debate" now go enoy someone else ...and come back in a few years when u have read the bible stare
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:09 pm
You know what? I actually burst out laughing just then. You, sir, need to learn to debate.
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:34 pm
Voldemort point two 1. Creation: The biblical Genesis account says God created all in six days (see Genesis 1:1 - 2:2). The Quran, however, has a real problem here as Surah 41:9, 10, 12 have a total of eight days of creation (4+2+2=8 ) Meanwhile, Surah 10:3 gives the total number of days of creation as six. This is a problem of self-contradiction. 2. Pharaoh: According to the Quran (Surah 7:120-125) Pharaoh used crucifixion in dealing with the sorcerers - a practice which historical evidence gives no precedent to before the Babylonian Empire. This is once again a problem of historical compression. 3. The Golden Calf: According to the Quran (Surah 20:90-100)a Samaritan helped the Israelites build the golden calf, and it mooed after coming out of the fire. In reality, Samaritans did not exist as a people until at least 1000 years after the time of the Moses and the Israelite exodus from Egypt. Again a problem of historical compression. 4. Judaism: According to the Quran (Surah 9:30) the Jews believe that Ezra is the Son of God - the Messiah. This never has been a tenet of Judaism. This is a clear problem of distorted knowledge of other religions and historical fact. 5. Alexander the Great: According to the Quran (Surah 18:89-98 ) Alexander the Great was a devout Muslim and lived to a ripe old age. Historical records however show that Alexander the Great died young at 33 years of age (b. 356 B.C. - d. 323 B.C.), and believed he was divine, forcing others to recognize him as such. In India on the Hyphasis River (now Beas) Alexander erected twelve altars to twelve Olympian gods. Once again the Quran shows errors in historical and religious fact. 6. The Trinity: According to the Quran (Surah 5:116, 5:73-75) the Christians believe in "three Gods" - Father, Mother, and Son. This shows the influence of heretical 'Christian' sects in central Arabia at the time of Muhammad. In contrast, Christianity has always distinctly stated that the Trinity is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The teaching of the Quran on the Trinity has undoubtedly led to confusion among many Muslims on what the Bible (and thus Christianity) teaches about the Triune God. 7. Mary: According to the Quran (Surah 19:28, 3:33-36), Mary, the mother of Jesus, was the daughter of Imran or Amram, the father of Moses and Aaron. Mary is also said to be the sister of Moses and Aaron. Clearly Muhammad confused Mary with Miriam. A second interesting point about Mary is the story of the date palm speaking and offering its fruit to her (Surah 19:23). This legend is easily traced to similar legends found in the apocryphal "Protoevangelium of James" the "Pseudo-Matthew" and "the Gospel of the Nativity of Mary" all of which have been dated to the fourth to sixth centuries, and were again believed by the sects found in Arabia. (More indepth information on Quranic sources may be found in Rev. W. St. Clair Tisdall's The Religion of the Crescent). I have plenty more. You didn't seem to see it the first time.
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:00 am
Voldemort point two You know what? I actually burst out laughing just then. You, sir, need to learn to debate. Lol! Yup Your Completely Right. What Ever You Want wink
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:36 am
Voldemort point two Voldemort point two 1. Creation: The biblical Genesis account says God created all in six days (see Genesis 1:1 - 2:2). The Quran, however, has a real problem here as Surah 41:9, 10, 12 have a total of eight days of creation (4+2+2=8 ) Meanwhile, Surah 10:3 gives the total number of days of creation as six. This is a problem of self-contradiction. 2. Pharaoh: According to the Quran (Surah 7:120-125) Pharaoh used crucifixion in dealing with the sorcerers - a practice which historical evidence gives no precedent to before the Babylonian Empire. This is once again a problem of historical compression. 3. The Golden Calf: According to the Quran (Surah 20:90-100)a Samaritan helped the Israelites build the golden calf, and it mooed after coming out of the fire. In reality, Samaritans did not exist as a people until at least 1000 years after the time of the Moses and the Israelite exodus from Egypt. Again a problem of historical compression. 4. Judaism: According to the Quran (Surah 9:30) the Jews believe that Ezra is the Son of God - the Messiah. This never has been a tenet of Judaism. This is a clear problem of distorted knowledge of other religions and historical fact. 5. Alexander the Great: According to the Quran (Surah 18:89-98 ) Alexander the Great was a devout Muslim and lived to a ripe old age. Historical records however show that Alexander the Great died young at 33 years of age (b. 356 B.C. - d. 323 B.C.), and believed he was divine, forcing others to recognize him as such. In India on the Hyphasis River (now Beas) Alexander erected twelve altars to twelve Olympian gods. Once again the Quran shows errors in historical and religious fact. 6. The Trinity: According to the Quran (Surah 5:116, 5:73-75) the Christians believe in "three Gods" - Father, Mother, and Son. This shows the influence of heretical 'Christian' sects in central Arabia at the time of Muhammad. In contrast, Christianity has always distinctly stated that the Trinity is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The teaching of the Quran on the Trinity has undoubtedly led to confusion among many Muslims on what the Bible (and thus Christianity) teaches about the Triune God. 7. Mary: According to the Quran (Surah 19:28, 3:33-36), Mary, the mother of Jesus, was the daughter of Imran or Amram, the father of Moses and Aaron. Mary is also said to be the sister of Moses and Aaron. Clearly Muhammad confused Mary with Miriam. A second interesting point about Mary is the story of the date palm speaking and offering its fruit to her (Surah 19:23). This legend is easily traced to similar legends found in the apocryphal "Protoevangelium of James" the "Pseudo-Matthew" and "the Gospel of the Nativity of Mary" all of which have been dated to the fourth to sixth centuries, and were again believed by the sects found in Arabia. (More indepth information on Quranic sources may be found in Rev. W. St. Clair Tisdall's The Religion of the Crescent). I have plenty more. You didn't seem to see it the first time. Like I said.. and thats why ur Bible is messed up.
Translations.
( Translations of the Koran > are NOT the Koran,,Just Translation.. The Only Book u can call The Koran are... Is the Koran Written is His Language )
Now Listen Carefully because this is the last thing I have to say about this all.
The Islam is perfect and Allah (swt) has given us the Koran .. His word. every thing in the Koran is poetic , changing one word. could change the whole context of it.
Who has the truth, The Creator? or His Creations?
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:20 am
Oh, right. So it's perfect, so all those FREAKING HUGE MISTAKES are just my imagination? Sorry for misunderstanding you.
smile
And I suppose someone mistranslated the Samaritan in? It wasn't really a Samaritan, was it? Look it up in Arabic. Honestly, you are wrong.
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:48 pm
Just as Muslims beleive that Islam is the only true way, Christians beleive that Jesus is the only true way. Also, the Bible says nothing about Muhammad (saw?). :]
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:34 pm
These are some miracles for you which you will say of course that's from devil's work   
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:36 pm
AND THERE'S A GREAT MIRACLE CAN YOU TELL ME HOW DID ON EARTH PROPHET MOHAMED WOULD KNOW THIS MIRACLE , DID HE HAD A ROCKET OR TELESCOPE , TRY TO PROVE THIS IS NOT WRONG , AND BY THE WAY I SAW THE STUPID FAULTS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT , THEY'RE STUPID AND IT'S NOT EVEN MISTAKES YOU IDIOT
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:39 pm
AND CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THIS MISTAKE WHICH IS AT YOUR BIBLE TRY TO EXPLAIN THIS Quote: 22. There is but one God [Deut 6:4] There is a plurality of gods [Gen 1:26 / Gen 3:22 / Gen 18:1-3 / 1 John 5:7]
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:51 pm
and let me tell you something about the locations of Ararat and Judi , the Joudi mountain is at south east of Turkey while Ararat is at the east of Turkey , then the ship was at the south east of Turkey which is the Judi mountain , while your bible saying it's at the east on mountain of Ararat , can you explain this to me ?
by the way I got a question about your religion , it's out of the discussion I swear I am only wondering , homosexuality is wrong at your religion right ? , and can you tell me what the punishment of it ?
I swear I am only wondering this is so out of the discussion
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:04 am
Hesham, This Guy Is Hopeless,, Even If Jesus stood infront of his face. and told him, " Islam is the true religion "
He would say;
" Devils Work " stare
Also > About What Hesham Posted above.. the Name of Allah written on animals in nature, etc.
Koran says " We will write our names, as signs " I dont know the exact verse anymore, need to look it up.
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:00 am
EGYPTIAN 4 EVER and let me tell you something about the locations of Ararat and Judi , the Joudi mountain is at south east of Turkey while Ararat is at the east of Turkey , then the ship was at the south east of Turkey which is the Judi mountain , while your bible saying it's at the east on mountain of Ararat , can you explain this to me ? by the way I got a question about your religion , it's out of the discussion I swear I am only wondering , homosexuality is wrong at your religion right ? , and can you tell me what the punishment of it ? I swear I am only wondering this is so out of the discussion there are sssooo many ways it could have been mistaken i mean they might not have none east south north and west as well as now, understand?
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:17 am
EGYPTIAN 4 EVER and let me tell you something about the locations of Ararat and Judi , the Joudi mountain is at south east of Turkey while Ararat is at the east of Turkey , then the ship was at the south east of Turkey which is the Judi mountain , while your bible saying it's at the east on mountain of Ararat , can you explain this to me ? by the way I got a question about your religion , it's out of the discussion I swear I am only wondering , homosexuality is wrong at your religion right ? , and can you tell me what the punishment of it ? I swear I am only wondering this is so out of the discussion for christians we were meant to be binded man and woman but it never really says that its wrong and you shall be punished for man and man or woman and woman sooo basically. yee shalt be free to be with thy true love.
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