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Fish of Steel
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:13 pm


a teacher!! damd woman u just made me so happy Im talking to an adult yaaaay looool

IM a student at sultan
Im 23 btw, how about u?
what do u teach?

and pathan is so sweet but he is just a kid so mash 7alek lol blaugh

and ur not saposed to be in boys forum if u go there then I cant kick him out sad
PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:18 pm


i went there when they first opened before they opened this one for girls. ever since , i hated the muslim guild cuz ppl trashed women.

just got involved due to this thread.

and i teach translation. im 28 and zaki dude wants me to ask my parents to marry me to any man. cuz thats what good parents do apparently.

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Fish of Steel
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:24 pm


where did they trash women?!? I didnt see that anywhere?? where menjed!! is a big problem if its true!

and pathan really said that?? weird?

well he is a bit closed minded but its just his way he never said anything like that with me tho
PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:27 pm


yes they did
a whole argument
and they said women were not humen.
i was like WTF WTF!! had to call my friend to b***h about how some men think
ill try to get the topic for you

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Fish of Steel
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:34 pm


PLZ DO!!!
Im have been the vice captain for 2 day we lesah met7amesah xd
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Fish of Steel
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:40 am


the more I read the topic the more it pisses me off, BUT WHERE DO I START!!!
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:07 am


ehh, i don't like talking on my back razz

i diden't say women are not humans in the male forum, did i? I think it was only in the main forum wink And the female forum opened same time as male smile

and no wandy, we don't trash women? Everyone here is kinda female confused



and fish, yes i did. I said the same i said to her lol i figuredout u were both old so asked how many kids u had rofl and so on..



but that is not the male forum, it's main forum sweatdrop i hope no one changed the name of the forum lol



ok ok litsen i saw that topic. and really i didn't say it. and i only say it as a joke if i did anything near it razz

i said that to fear women is haram, because u must only fear Allah. And u must live with women, u can't be afraid.

clear?

i said humans are equal, if women are humans (that was a joke). but their brain and body is diffrent. and that is right... i mean men are machines, bigger muscles and brain. yes it's biology.

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Fish of Steel
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:25 am


BIGGER BRAIN!?? BIGGER BRAIN?!?!

YEAH BIGGER BRAIN TOO BAD ITS FULL OF CRAP!!! ITS NOT BIOLOGY!!! ITS U THINKING MEN ARE BETTER!! infact biology shows women have a larger brain capacity than men!!!
bigger muscles yes bigger brain HELL NO!!!!

and its normal to be afraid we are humans!! if ur not scared there is something wrong in ur head!!
ur scared of ur parents dyeing arrant u? ur scared of ur house burning? ur scared of beeing hit by a car arrant u? its normal to be scared!

u know what drives me crazy about u is that ur a kid! ur only 15! u have not seen the world yet and u talk and act like u know every thing!
islam told u to respect the ones older than u!!

both me and wandy are older! we know alot more than u and we have lived alot more that u, so u should respect what we have to say!

and beeing in the 20's not old by world standards we are the young age of the world and beeing a teenager is beeing the kid of the world(as in you)
just cuz we are in out 20's doesn't mean we should be married with kids what if wandy doesn't wana be married islam does not make her, and beeing in ur early 20's and have kids is weird it means u married TOO young.

you know Im am actually thinking to not marry and never have kids continue my education get my PHD and NOT have a man in my life!! what do u say to that?! or is my brain too small for me to get my PHD??
oh and a little piece of info about me pathan my IQ 130, do u know how many ppl have IQ like me?? less than 2.3 of the human population! so beeing so smart do I have to be a man now??
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:57 am


Note i said bigger brain not bigger intelligence. And what are u saying? Men has got bigger brain capacity everywhere in the brain. Really, it's biology. And yup, maybe it's full of crap lol

Maybe i can get shocks, but no i don't fear women???
I said that cuz someone told about how dangerous women were, and it really sounded like women were all lions lol



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u know what drives me crazy about u is that ur a kid! ur only 15! u have not seen the world yet and u talk and act like u know every thing!
islam told u to respect the ones older than u!!

I do respect elders, sis'/auntie. No I haven't seen everything, and i don't kow everything, but everyone is allowed to post ^_^ I'm sexist? Then ur ageist? lol

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both me and wandy are older! we know alot more than u and we have lived alot more that u, so u should respect what we have to say!
Yes I know that smile And I do respect ^_^ Did I ever talk mean to You or said any swear words? Well, maybe u think i did, cuz u get eassily mad, or u just want a reason to get mad, that's very normal for people. But I just smile smile

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and beeing in the 20's not old by world standards we are the young age of the world and beeing a teenager is beeing the kid of the world(as in you)
just cuz we are in out 20's doesn't mean we should be married with kids what if wandy doesn't wana be married islam does not make her, and beeing in ur early 20's and have kids is weird it means u married TOO young.
umm... Does this have to do something about anything??? lol. lol Yeah I agree, but I didn't think it would sounds offencive to ask smile I was just wondering ^_^



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you know Im am actually thinking to not marry and never have kids continue my education get my PHD and NOT have a man in my life!! what do u say to that?! or is my brain too small for me to get my PHD??
oh and a little piece of info about me pathan my IQ 130, do u know how many ppl have IQ like me?? less than 2.3 of the human population! so beeing so smart do I have to be a man now??

Islam says u should get married and have kids(proved). U can have education, but what will u use it for? You got no husband or kids or any family, then what's the point of life???? But ofcurse I can only suggest, i can't decide what you wanto. =)

Which machine calculated your IQ? lolz xD Did I ever say only men could have PHD or be smart? confused You kinda believe what you wanto believe, that's pretty annoying that people just judge like that. That's like the causasians who think muslims are terrorists.

Sorry if I said anything wrong ^_^

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Fish of Steel
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:20 pm


you are sexiest if u think that all that is important to a woman is a husband and kid, what about a career what about success those things can be just as important to a woman if not more.
next u'll be saying the woman's place is in the kitchen!

and dont say Islam says women have to marry its does not say that, give me prof and I MIGHT believe u, dont just say things from ur head
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:49 pm


Its time to bake a cake xd

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:33 am


It is in the nature of men to make homes and provide for the family and for women to have and love children.

But that is not everything in life!

some women and men for some reason can not have babies.
should they end their life?

We are on this earth to warship Allah not to have babies and make families.

How we can warship Allah?

We believe in Allah and that He is the only God, pray 5 times, give zakat, fast during Ramadan and do Hajj if it is possible.
If you do that, then you may enter heaven.

But Normal Muslims have stereo types of what a life should be:
grow-up, get married, have kids, marry your kids, make your son/daughter-in-law miserable.. or not razz then die so your kids will have a chance to cry.

That is not the life of a Muslim!! thats pretty much the life of all humanity!

A Muslim serves Islam every where! and that is his life!
either raise his children to be good Muslims or help his/her community.

We study and get jobs to make our countries stronger.
our countries are Muslim so thats another way.

Just assuming women should spend her life in the kitchen or her husband bed is an ugly picture about islam!!

A woman can be whatever she wants to be except a ruler of a country because then she will have hard time getting to her people and her emotional nature. She can't also be an imam for men.

other than that, she can be anywhere!
Khadiejah radi alla anha was a merchant! and a wealthy one!
and Prophet Mohammad PBUH loved and cherished her even after she died.
During wars, Women were there to treat the wounded.
during time of piece they were poetess and trend makers!

The picture is: Men are made to serve women.
Women are jewels and they can change the nation.

If she wishes to have a career, it is the men in the family who should find a way to make her dreams happen.

Lucky for men, women are usually happy to have a husband and kids.

Peace.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:41 am


I will try to find the hadith or the text where it says that we must get married smile
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It is in the nature of men to make homes and provide for the family and for women to have and love children.

But that is not everything in life!

some women and men for some reason can not have babies.
should they end their life?

So you cannot make children, or wut??

Being sick or handicap is something else. And yes, we are made to pray to Allah, but while doing it. We gotta eat, we gotta take care of family, and work ect. We can't just pray 24/7 u know..

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But Normal Muslims have stereo types of what a life should be:
grow-up, get married, have kids, marry your kids, make your son/daughter-in-law miserable.. or not then die so your kids will have a chance to cry.

Well that is life... We shouldn't just work until we die, family is important 3nodding


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A Muslim serves Islam every where! and that is his life!
either raise his children to be good Muslims or help his/her community.

We study and get jobs to make our countries stronger.
our countries are Muslim so thats another way.

Yeah sure, Saudi = muslim country. i don't live in a muslim country, i make kids so we can conquer the world ^_^ lolz xD

Making muslims, and being muslim, i think they are both important 3nodding

You shouldn't stay translating in univercity all ur life, and praying and doing zakaat, all ur life, and nothing else. There is stuff which is also important in life 3nodding

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:33 am

It is in the nature of men to make homes and provide for the family and for women to have and love children.

But that is not everything in life!

some women and men for some reason can not have babies.
should they end their life?

We are on this earth to warship Allah not to have babies and make families.

How we can warship Allah?

We believe in Allah and that He is the only God, pray 5 times, give zakat, fast during Ramadan and do Hajj if it is possible.
If you do that, then you may enter heaven.

But Normal Muslims have stereo types of what a life should be:
grow-up, get married, have kids, marry your kids, make your son/daughter-in-law miserable.. or not then die so your kids will have a chance to cry.

That is not the life of a Muslim!! thats pretty much the life of all humanity!

A Muslim serves Islam every where! and that is his life!
either raise his children to be good Muslims or help his/her community.

We study and get jobs to make our countries stronger.
our countries are Muslim so thats another way.

Quote:
Just assuming women should spend her life in the kitchen or her husband bed is an ugly picture about islam!!

A woman can be whatever she wants to be except a ruler of a country because then she will have hard time getting to her people and her emotional nature. She can't also be an imam for men.

When did I say that? Well ofcurse not, but women should work as good as they can 3nodding Atleast in Denmark, if women here dosn't work, then u wont have enough money.

But no there is nothing wrong working at home. If u got 10 kids, u can't spend 15 hours on a job. U gotta take care of the kids 3nodding When my sisters were younger my mom diden't work either, but now she does 3nodding



Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:33 am

It is in the nature of men to make homes and provide for the family and for women to have and love children.

But that is not everything in life!

some women and men for some reason can not have babies.
should they end their life?

We are on this earth to warship Allah not to have babies and make families.

How we can warship Allah?

We believe in Allah and that He is the only God, pray 5 times, give zakat, fast during Ramadan and do Hajj if it is possible.
If you do that, then you may enter heaven.

But Normal Muslims have stereo types of what a life should be:
grow-up, get married, have kids, marry your kids, make your son/daughter-in-law miserable.. or not then die so your kids will have a chance to cry.

That is not the life of a Muslim!! thats pretty much the life of all humanity!

A Muslim serves Islam every where! and that is his life!
either raise his children to be good Muslims or help his/her community.

We study and get jobs to make our countries stronger.
our countries are Muslim so thats another way.

Just assuming women should spend her life in the kitchen or her husband bed is an ugly picture about islam!!

A woman can be whatever she wants to be except a ruler of a country because then she will have hard time getting to her people and her emotional nature. She can't also be an imam for men.

Quote:
other than that, she can be anywhere!
Khadiejah radi alla anha was a merchant! and a wealthy one!
and Prophet Mohammad PBUH loved and cherished her even after she died.
During wars, Women were there to treat the wounded.
during time of piece they were poetess and trend makers!

The picture is: Men are made to serve women.
Women are jewels and they can change the nation.

If she wishes to have a career, it is the men in the family who should find a way to make her dreams happen.

Lucky for men, women are usually happy to have a husband and kids.

Peace.

Yes I know Khadija 3nodding

Ya I agree 3nodding neways, i kind never found anything from the qur'an beffore, so imma go and look, lol.

The_Pathan
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The_Pathan
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:30 am


This is a translated version i found, fvmf = peace be upon him.



The relationship between husband and wife occupy a unique position relative to all other human relationships. When Muhammad (fvmh) was asked: "Which man do you the most? he replied as follows: " 'Â'ishah (his wife)". Only when he was asked: "And then who?" He replied: "Her father (his best friend)." This is delivered by al-Bukhâriyy.

Qur'an also places great emphasis on marriage. In Surah an-Nur (Ayah 32) says Allah (swt): (marry the unmarried among you and the religious among your slaves and slave girls. If they are poor, Allah will give them out of his charity). Muhammad (fvmh) also said: "When a person marries, he completes half of his religion" - as it is handed down by al-Bayhaqiyy with an acceptable transfer chain from Anas.

Similarly, it is passed that three persons came to the messenger wives to ask them about his worship. When they got to know it was as if they regarded it as too little, and they said: "How can we compare with the Messenger of Allah? Allah has indeed forgiven him, both the sins that have gone before, and they will come later. "Then said one:" As for me, I will pray all night every night! "The second said:" I will be fixed every day! "And the last said:" I will discourage me from women and never married? "When the Messenger of Allah (fvmh) came, he said:" Is it you who said such and such? Truly I fear Allah more than I do, but my aunt and still break my fasting, I pray and submit to me, and I marry women. He who does not like my way of doing things is not one of us. "This is delivered by al-Bukhariyy also from Anas.

Islam attaches so marriage is a very important position, and indeed so important a position that the Messenger of Allah (fvmh) said that it is not cared about his way of doing things was not one of his.

But how can it be that Islam attaches to marriage such an important position? Is it solely because the survival of humanity depends on it, or is there a larger perspective?

To get an answer to that, we must look at what Allah (swt) and His prophet Muhammad (fvmh) has said about the importance of marriage.
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