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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:48 pm
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:32 pm
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:15 pm
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:53 pm
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:38 pm
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:53 pm
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FogSage shoki_de_nai Oh, my brother didn't get the job. Turns out that even though the place was calling people in for interviews, they're not actually hiring right now. I guess they just feel like wasting everyone's time. stare That's ******** stupid. I mean, I'm not even hunting for a job and that pisses me off. A little hint for those hiring: do not jerk your potential candidates around. You might have the power to hire and fire em, but without them, you can't run the store. Besides that, I can think of nothing more immature and cruel to do than to say "We're hiring" and then slamming the doors in everyone's face and laughing at them. You'd have to be a real sadistic son of a b***h to do that. Shoki, if you apply again, tell your interviewer/boss/whatever that if he's not serious about hiring someone then you're not going to be interviewed until he's for real about it. The reason some employers do that, is because then they can interview without the worry of having to fill a position. Through interviewing people when not accepting at the moment, is for keeping someone who looks good on file, so that if someone quits or is fired, you have that file handy to go back to and hey, if that person took another job, who cares, you got tons of other great people you interviewed earlier too. I did that once, we knew someone was going to quit in a few months, so I interviewed people then but weren't hiring. That's how we got our awesome current employee.
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:29 am
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Rainey_angel81 FogSage shoki_de_nai Oh, my brother didn't get the job. Turns out that even though the place was calling people in for interviews, they're not actually hiring right now. I guess they just feel like wasting everyone's time. stare That's ******** stupid. I mean, I'm not even hunting for a job and that pisses me off. A little hint for those hiring: do not jerk your potential candidates around. You might have the power to hire and fire em, but without them, you can't run the store. Besides that, I can think of nothing more immature and cruel to do than to say "We're hiring" and then slamming the doors in everyone's face and laughing at them. You'd have to be a real sadistic son of a b***h to do that. Shoki, if you apply again, tell your interviewer/boss/whatever that if he's not serious about hiring someone then you're not going to be interviewed until he's for real about it. The reason some employers do that, is because then they can interview without the worry of having to fill a position. Through interviewing people when not accepting at the moment, is for keeping someone who looks good on file, so that if someone quits or is fired, you have that file handy to go back to and hey, if that person took another job, who cares, you got tons of other great people you interviewed earlier too. I did that once, we knew someone was going to quit in a few months, so I interviewed people then but weren't hiring. That's how we got our awesome current employee.
You shouldn't interview people unless you need a position to be filled, and I mean immediately, not months from now. If you interview people without having a position open, it kind of defeats the purpose of going to the interview in the first place; which is to try and get hired as quickly as possible.
Even in your scenario, you could've just as easily waited until the person left and then had the interviews. It makes a lot more sense that way. Also, people tend not to get pissed off at you when you tell them there's a good chance you'll be hired in the near future. When you say "Oh, we're not hiring.", you're telling them that they got their hopes up for nothing and that they've wasted their time, all to please you.
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:53 am
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FogSage Rainey_angel81 FogSage shoki_de_nai Oh, my brother didn't get the job. Turns out that even though the place was calling people in for interviews, they're not actually hiring right now. I guess they just feel like wasting everyone's time. stare That's ******** stupid. I mean, I'm not even hunting for a job and that pisses me off. A little hint for those hiring: do not jerk your potential candidates around. You might have the power to hire and fire em, but without them, you can't run the store. Besides that, I can think of nothing more immature and cruel to do than to say "We're hiring" and then slamming the doors in everyone's face and laughing at them. You'd have to be a real sadistic son of a b***h to do that. Shoki, if you apply again, tell your interviewer/boss/whatever that if he's not serious about hiring someone then you're not going to be interviewed until he's for real about it. The reason some employers do that, is because then they can interview without the worry of having to fill a position. Through interviewing people when not accepting at the moment, is for keeping someone who looks good on file, so that if someone quits or is fired, you have that file handy to go back to and hey, if that person took another job, who cares, you got tons of other great people you interviewed earlier too. I did that once, we knew someone was going to quit in a few months, so I interviewed people then but weren't hiring. That's how we got our awesome current employee. You shouldn't interview people unless you need a position to be filled, and I mean immediately, not months from now. If you interview people without having a position open, it kind of defeats the purpose of going to the interview in the first place; which is to try and get hired as quickly as possible. Even in your scenario, you could've just as easily waited until the person left and then had the interviews. It makes a lot more sense that way. Also, people tend not to get pissed off at you when you tell them there's a good chance you'll be hired in the near future. When you say "Oh, we're not hiring.", you're telling them that they got their hopes up for nothing and that they've wasted their time, all to please you. We tell people right up front that we are not hiring but we give a time frame of when the position will be open. it is their option to send in their resume or ask for an application at that point. We don't put signs up that say "We're Hiring" and then interview people only to tell them we do not have a position open -right now-. And the reason we don't wait until someone has already left, is because there will be a gap in work load. By overlapping, we get someone started about 3 days before the other person leaves so that there is no gap. Our interview process takes at least 2 weeks. Ask for application, mail it in, time to get it screened, phone interview, in person interview and working interview. Besides, I have a much harder time finding people who are willing to start right away for a job rather than people who need or are willing to wait a month or so for a position to open up.
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:09 am
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:51 am
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Rainey_angel81 FogSage Rainey_angel81 FogSage shoki_de_nai Oh, my brother didn't get the job. Turns out that even though the place was calling people in for interviews, they're not actually hiring right now. I guess they just feel like wasting everyone's time. stare That's ******** stupid. I mean, I'm not even hunting for a job and that pisses me off. A little hint for those hiring: do not jerk your potential candidates around. You might have the power to hire and fire em, but without them, you can't run the store. Besides that, I can think of nothing more immature and cruel to do than to say "We're hiring" and then slamming the doors in everyone's face and laughing at them. You'd have to be a real sadistic son of a b***h to do that. Shoki, if you apply again, tell your interviewer/boss/whatever that if he's not serious about hiring someone then you're not going to be interviewed until he's for real about it. The reason some employers do that, is because then they can interview without the worry of having to fill a position. Through interviewing people when not accepting at the moment, is for keeping someone who looks good on file, so that if someone quits or is fired, you have that file handy to go back to and hey, if that person took another job, who cares, you got tons of other great people you interviewed earlier too. I did that once, we knew someone was going to quit in a few months, so I interviewed people then but weren't hiring. That's how we got our awesome current employee. You shouldn't interview people unless you need a position to be filled, and I mean immediately, not months from now. If you interview people without having a position open, it kind of defeats the purpose of going to the interview in the first place; which is to try and get hired as quickly as possible. Even in your scenario, you could've just as easily waited until the person left and then had the interviews. It makes a lot more sense that way. Also, people tend not to get pissed off at you when you tell them there's a good chance you'll be hired in the near future. When you say "Oh, we're not hiring.", you're telling them that they got their hopes up for nothing and that they've wasted their time, all to please you. We tell people right up front that we are not hiring but we give a time frame of when the position will be open. it is their option to send in their resume or ask for an application at that point. We don't put signs up that say "We're Hiring" and then interview people only to tell them we do not have a position open -right now-. And the reason we don't wait until someone has already left, is because there will be a gap in work load. By overlapping, we get someone started about 3 days before the other person leaves so that there is no gap. Our interview process takes at least 2 weeks. Ask for application, mail it in, time to get it screened, phone interview, in person interview and working interview. Besides, I have a much harder time finding people who are willing to start right away for a job rather than people who need or are willing to wait a month or so for a position to open up.
But you work with canines, correct? Forgive me for saying this, but that's a specialized job with some requirements attached to it. Not everyone can work with animals, even when the job is supposedly "easy". I'm talking about stuff like retail or restaurant services, which I assume was what Shoki's brother was attempting to get into.
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:06 am
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:07 pm
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FogSage Rainey_angel81 FogSage Rainey_angel81 FogSage shoki_de_nai Oh, my brother didn't get the job. Turns out that even though the place was calling people in for interviews, they're not actually hiring right now. I guess they just feel like wasting everyone's time. stare That's ******** stupid. I mean, I'm not even hunting for a job and that pisses me off. A little hint for those hiring: do not jerk your potential candidates around. You might have the power to hire and fire em, but without them, you can't run the store. Besides that, I can think of nothing more immature and cruel to do than to say "We're hiring" and then slamming the doors in everyone's face and laughing at them. You'd have to be a real sadistic son of a b***h to do that. Shoki, if you apply again, tell your interviewer/boss/whatever that if he's not serious about hiring someone then you're not going to be interviewed until he's for real about it. The reason some employers do that, is because then they can interview without the worry of having to fill a position. Through interviewing people when not accepting at the moment, is for keeping someone who looks good on file, so that if someone quits or is fired, you have that file handy to go back to and hey, if that person took another job, who cares, you got tons of other great people you interviewed earlier too. I did that once, we knew someone was going to quit in a few months, so I interviewed people then but weren't hiring. That's how we got our awesome current employee. You shouldn't interview people unless you need a position to be filled, and I mean immediately, not months from now. If you interview people without having a position open, it kind of defeats the purpose of going to the interview in the first place; which is to try and get hired as quickly as possible. Even in your scenario, you could've just as easily waited until the person left and then had the interviews. It makes a lot more sense that way. Also, people tend not to get pissed off at you when you tell them there's a good chance you'll be hired in the near future. When you say "Oh, we're not hiring.", you're telling them that they got their hopes up for nothing and that they've wasted their time, all to please you. We tell people right up front that we are not hiring but we give a time frame of when the position will be open. it is their option to send in their resume or ask for an application at that point. We don't put signs up that say "We're Hiring" and then interview people only to tell them we do not have a position open -right now-. And the reason we don't wait until someone has already left, is because there will be a gap in work load. By overlapping, we get someone started about 3 days before the other person leaves so that there is no gap. Our interview process takes at least 2 weeks. Ask for application, mail it in, time to get it screened, phone interview, in person interview and working interview. Besides, I have a much harder time finding people who are willing to start right away for a job rather than people who need or are willing to wait a month or so for a position to open up. But you work with canines, correct? Forgive me for saying this, but that's a specialized job with some requirements attached to it. Not everyone can work with animals, even when the job is supposedly "easy". I'm talking about stuff like retail or restaurant services, which I assume was what Shoki's brother was attempting to get into.
Kennel assistants don't need many requirements as far as I know.
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:20 pm
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:35 pm
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Shaviv I realize that when I'm thinking of the ideal life partner, I'm thinking of a woman who's like me, only better. Is that unrealistic? Is it silly? I think it's a bit silly. But I know that I would settle for someone kind and clever who shares some of my values. If I should happen to connect with someone who fits those criteria who's also singularly beautiful, so be it; but you know what? I don't really need that. To paraphrase the author of Proverbs, "Favor is false and beauty is futile; but a righteous woman is praiseworthy." I wouldn't go so far as to say false and futile, but physical beauty so often goes downhill with age, while personal goodness often increases with experience. Lemme tell you, though. It's crazy that I felt fine about putting my info on Pounced!, but I tremble at the thought of posting a profile on JDate.
It is best to find someone you are compatible with, but if you fall in love it will be with their personality, not their looks.
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:13 pm
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