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 Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:18 am
EGYPTIAN 4 EVER AND CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THIS MISTAKE WHICH IS AT YOUR BIBLE TRY TO EXPLAIN THIS Quote: 22. There is but one God [Deut 6:4] There is a plurality of gods [Gen 1:26 / Gen 3:22 / Gen 18:1-3 / 1 John 5:7] well see its hard to explain
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:27 am
Voldemort point two You know what? I actually burst out laughing just then. You, sir, need to learn to debate. truly i think you do cause debate is fact not fiction to prove thy wrong with FACTS. and if you cant except that EVERYONE have different opinions than you are arrogant not us. and this isnt towards just one person this is towards anyone who has there mind set that one way is the only way and its not you were not there at the time nor was i we dont know what really happened all we have are stories we dont know that they are real! wanna know what could have happened and dont say that didnt happen thats just stupid because you WERE NOT THERE you dont know. this is what might have happened: all the gods goddesses jesus mary whoever else from all religions in the world got together got mad and wrote stupid stories because they all wanted to be the leaders and they all couldnt. now i dont know that happened nor do you WE ALL DONT KNOW!!!!
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:56 am
blondiehotline EGYPTIAN 4 EVER and let me tell you something about the locations of Ararat and Judi , the Joudi mountain is at south east of Turkey while Ararat is at the east of Turkey , then the ship was at the south east of Turkey which is the Judi mountain , while your bible saying it's at the east on mountain of Ararat , can you explain this to me ? by the way I got a question about your religion , it's out of the discussion I swear I am only wondering , homosexuality is wrong at your religion right ? , and can you tell me what the punishment of it ? I swear I am only wondering this is so out of the discussion for christians we were meant to be binded man and woman but it never really says that its wrong and you shall be punished for man and man or woman and woman sooo basically. yee shalt be free to be with thy true love. ??????????????????????????????????????????????? well at Islam they suppose to get killed , and I won't open that discussion we discuss about which religion is the true one
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:57 am
blondiehotline EGYPTIAN 4 EVER AND CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THIS MISTAKE WHICH IS AT YOUR BIBLE TRY TO EXPLAIN THIS Quote: 22. There is but one God [Deut 6:4] There is a plurality of gods [Gen 1:26 / Gen 3:22 / Gen 18:1-3 / 1 John 5:7] well see its hard to explain try me , try to prove your religion is true ,come on
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:02 am
Jin Saga Hesham, This Guy Is Hopeless,, Even If Jesus stood in front of his face. and told him, " Islam is the true religion " He would say; " Devils Work " stare Also > About What Hesham Posted above.. the Name of Allah written on animals in nature, etc. Koran says " We will write our names, as signs " I dont know the exact verse anymore, need to look it up. dude you're so right , but I won't shut up as long someone saying my religion Islam is wrong , I won't stand and watch him trying to destroy our religion with lies and false mistakes , I won't just stand seeing him keep posting by saying Islam is wrong and no one would try to defend his religion , you shouldn't go Jin Saga , that way youre leaving your religion being destroyed by stupid lies , even if he didn't believe in what we're saying at least we are still here to fight
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:13 am
TRY TO EXPLAIN THIS TO ME , HOW WOULD YOUR HAND BE LIKE THIS AT THE FORM OF ALLAH'S NAME , ALLAH'S NAME IN ARABIC IS LIKE THIS
الله
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:17 am
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:43 am
and let me prove that you're wrong at your " mistakes of Quran " , and you need to read Quran and understand it right Quote: 1. Creation: The biblical Genesis account says God created all in six days (see Genesis 1:1 - 2:2). The Quran, however, has a real problem here as Surah 41:9, 10, 12 have a total of eight days of creation (4+2+2=8 ) Meanwhile, Surah 10:3 gives the total number of days of creation as six. This is a problem of self-contradiction. if that idiot who made that reads the Quran well , he will know the earth was made on 6 days on Surah 41 it says only 6 not 8 because ( 4+2) 6 and at Surah 10 it also says the same , try to read the Quran and understand it , I read it on Arabic that's why I don't have mistakes . Quote: 2. Pharaoh: According to the Quran (Surah 7:120-125) Pharaoh used crucifixion in dealing with the sorcerers - a practice which historical evidence gives no precedent to before the Babylonian Empire. This is once again a problem of historical compression. you are right the crucifixion started only at the Babylonian Empire , but what Quran meant you smart guy that pharaoh was gonna cut their hands and legs that was a different way Quote: 3. The Golden Calf: According to the Quran (Surah 20:90-100)a Samaritan helped the Israelites build the golden calf, and it mooed after coming out of the fire. In reality, Samaritans did not exist as a people until at least 1000 years after the time of the Moses and the Israelite exodus from Egypt. Again a problem of historical compression. dude it was a name of a guy not people you idiot , I swear with ALLAH the one who done that was a guy called Samari Quote: 4. Judaism: According to the Quran (Surah 9:30) the Jews believe that Ezra is the Son of God - the Messiah. This never has been a tenet of Judaism. This is a clear problem of distorted knowledge of other religions and historical fact. it says the Christians said so not the Jews Quote: 5. Alexander the Great: According to the Quran (Surah 18:89-98 ) Alexander the Great was a devout Muslim and lived to a ripe old age. Historical records however show that Alexander the Great died young at 33 years of age (b. 356 B.C. - d. 323 B.C.), and believed he was divine, forcing others to recognize him as such. In India on the Hyphasis River (now Beas) Alexander erected twelve altars to twelve Olympian gods. Once again the Quran shows errors in historical and religious fact. dude I don't to say why this is wrong and again understand Quran I will continue later with the other things that you say they are mistakes and try to say something about the mistakes which is at your Bible instead of getting false mistakes out of the Quran will you ?
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:51 am
Quote: God accepts human sacrifices [2 Sam 21:8,9,14 / Gen 22:2 / Judg 11:30-32,34,38,39] God forbids human sacrifice [Deut 12:30,31] Quote: God cannot lie [Heb 6:18] God lies by proxy; he sends forth lying spirits to deceive [2 Thes 2:11 / 1 Kings 22:23 / Ezek 14:9] Quote: Because of man's wickedness God destroys him [Gen 6:5,7] Because of man's wickedness God will not destroy him [Gen 8:21] Quote:
There is but one God [Deut 6:4]
There is a plurality of gods [Gen 1:26 / Gen 3:22 / Gen 18:1-3 / 1 John 5:7]Quote: Robbery commanded [Ex 3:21,22 / Ex 12:35,36] Robbery forbidden [Lev 19:13 / Ex 20:15]
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:00 am
Lmao.
So you admit that the Qur'an is historically wrong in that it says something false about Alexander the Great, but you don't see how that's a mistake? You also say I'm right that crucifiction didn't really happen in ancient Egypt, and that the Qur'an doesn't really talk about crucifiction in that time period when it clearly does. Of course, no mistakes at all! I mean, it's not like Islam is just a tool of the Devil to drag people away from God.
Okay then, from the top:
Human sacrifices:
God disapproves of human sacrifices, as said by Deuteronomy. In Genesis 22, God was testing Abraham's faith by ordering him to do something which Abraham knew God disapproved of. He wanted Abraham to learn to trust God even when God didn't seem to make sense. And, reading on, you see that God did not allow Abraham to carry through with the sacrifice of his son. In the Judges passage, God neither accepted or approved of Jephthat's offer, and in fact punished him for it. In the 2 Samuel passages, an execution, not a human sacrifice, is being described here. Not a contradiction.
Lying:
In the Jeremiah passage, the prophet is simply complaining in a moment of anger. God did not lie to him. In the 1 Kings passage, God is allowing a lying spirit to deceive one who is trying to deceive, giving a punishment that fits the crime. Lying, and allowing a lying spirit into the mouths of prophets, are two completely different things. No contradiction here.
God destroying people because of wickedness:
God punished Noah's civilization, as He said He would, and then afterwards promised that it was a one-time thing, that God would never again curse the ground or smite nearly every living thing. Not a contradiction.
The big one (which is actually so incredbily easy, you would know the answer to this if you'd actually read the Bible):
The. Trinity.
I posted a link to an article explaning the trinity, because I can't really explain. As blondiehotline said, it's hard to explain. It's like two sides of the same coin. Only, there are three sides to this one.
Robery:
In Exodus 3 & 12, God was allowing the Israelites to take compensation for what the Egyptians put them through. It was not robbery. Not a contradiction.
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:03 am
EGYPTIAN 4 EVER blondiehotline EGYPTIAN 4 EVER and let me tell you something about the locations of Ararat and Judi , the Joudi mountain is at south east of Turkey while Ararat is at the east of Turkey , then the ship was at the south east of Turkey which is the Judi mountain , while your bible saying it's at the east on mountain of Ararat , can you explain this to me ? by the way I got a question about your religion , it's out of the discussion I swear I am only wondering , homosexuality is wrong at your religion right ? , and can you tell me what the punishment of it ? I swear I am only wondering this is so out of the discussion for christians we were meant to be binded man and woman but it never really says that its wrong and you shall be punished for man and man or woman and woman sooo basically. yee shalt be free to be with thy true love. ??????????????????????????????????????????????? well at Islam they suppose to get killed , and I won't open that discussion we discuss about which religion is the true one There is no punnishment. Not until Hell, anyway.
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Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:48 am
EGYPTIAN 4 EVER and let me prove that you're wrong at your " mistakes of Quran " , and you need to read Quran and understand it right Quote: 1. Creation: The biblical Genesis account says God created all in six days (see Genesis 1:1 - 2:2). The Quran, however, has a real problem here as Surah 41:9, 10, 12 have a total of eight days of creation (4+2+2=8 ) Meanwhile, Surah 10:3 gives the total number of days of creation as six. This is a problem of self-contradiction. if that idiot who made that reads the Quran well , he will know the earth was made on 6 days on Surah 41 it says only 6 not 8 because ( 4+2) 6 and at Surah 10 it also says the same , try to read the Quran and understand it , I read it on Arabic that's why I don't have mistakes . Quote: 2. Pharaoh: According to the Quran (Surah 7:120-125) Pharaoh used crucifixion in dealing with the sorcerers - a practice which historical evidence gives no precedent to before the Babylonian Empire. This is once again a problem of historical compression. you are right the crucifixion started only at the Babylonian Empire , but what Quran meant you smart guy that pharaoh was gonna cut their hands and legs that was a different way Quote: 3. The Golden Calf: According to the Quran (Surah 20:90-100)a Samaritan helped the Israelites build the golden calf, and it mooed after coming out of the fire. In reality, Samaritans did not exist as a people until at least 1000 years after the time of the Moses and the Israelite exodus from Egypt. Again a problem of historical compression. dude it was a name of a guy not people you idiot , I swear with ALLAH the one who done that was a guy called Samari Quote: 4. Judaism: According to the Quran (Surah 9:30) the Jews believe that Ezra is the Son of God - the Messiah. This never has been a tenet of Judaism. This is a clear problem of distorted knowledge of other religions and historical fact. it says the Christians said so not the Jews Quote: 5. Alexander the Great: According to the Quran (Surah 18:89-98 ) Alexander the Great was a devout Muslim and lived to a ripe old age. Historical records however show that Alexander the Great died young at 33 years of age (b. 356 B.C. - d. 323 B.C.), and believed he was divine, forcing others to recognize him as such. In India on the Hyphasis River (now Beas) Alexander erected twelve altars to twelve Olympian gods. Once again the Quran shows errors in historical and religious fact. dude I don't to say why this is wrong and again understand Quran I will continue later with the other things that you say they are mistakes and try to say something about the mistakes which is at your Bible instead of getting false mistakes out of the Quran will you ? Again, NICE Hesham wink
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Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:11 am
Voldemort point two EGYPTIAN 4 EVER blondiehotline EGYPTIAN 4 EVER and let me tell you something about the locations of Ararat and Judi , the Joudi mountain is at south east of Turkey while Ararat is at the east of Turkey , then the ship was at the south east of Turkey which is the Judi mountain , while your bible saying it's at the east on mountain of Ararat , can you explain this to me ? by the way I got a question about your religion , it's out of the discussion I swear I am only wondering , homosexuality is wrong at your religion right ? , and can you tell me what the punishment of it ? I swear I am only wondering this is so out of the discussion for christians we were meant to be binded man and woman but it never really says that its wrong and you shall be punished for man and man or woman and woman sooo basically. yee shalt be free to be with thy true love. ??????????????????????????????????????????????? well at Islam they suppose to get killed , and I won't open that discussion we discuss about which religion is the true one There is no punnishment. Not until Hell, anyway. there is smile somethimes u get punnished in real life too wink u get punnished in day of judgement, in hell, and in this world. this world got the punnishment with small pain.
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Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:02 am
listen the things that you're saying they're mistakes they're not they're miss understooding for the Quran because the guy who were reading the Quran understodd it wrong way , and did you even see the 2 photos and the links I gave you
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Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:03 am
EGYPTIAN 4 EVER AND THERE'S A GREAT MIRACLE CAN YOU TELL ME HOW DID ON EARTH PROPHET MOHAMED WOULD KNOW THIS MIRACLE , DID HE HAD A ROCKET OR TELESCOPE , TRY TO PROVE THIS IS NOT WRONG , AND BY THE WAY I SAW THE STUPID FAULTS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT , THEY'RE STUPID AND IT'S NOT EVEN MISTAKES YOU IDIOT and open that link will you
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