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[Esiris]

Sanguina Cruenta

My understanding is that Stregheria is non-theistic in itself, though it was blended with beliefs of the time - in the same way to much of traditional witchcraft - but wouldn't be necessary for the modern strega.

Of course, knowledge of popular religion-brand Catholicism would probably help some.

It makes me curious- but for me I look at how Catholicism impacted my family during slavery and stuff, so I thought it might be similar. sweatdrop

Ravynne Sidhe

So is it safe to say that Aradia, Gospel of Witches isn't a text to read on Strega?

My impression is that it depends on the kind of Strega someone is going to practice- I'm pretty sure I read here on Gaia that it was debunked, then undebunked then redebunked or something like that- a lot of arguing back and forth.  

[Ravynne Sidhe]

oOGarrettOo

Ravynne Sidhe

It's more accurate to say that Satanic witches practice the left hand path versus black magic.

I wouldn't even say that. Magic really can't be grouped like that. It's a personal thing.

As far as Satanism go, it is considered as the left hand path per both Anton LaVey who wrote the book "The Satanic Witch" which explains exactly what Satanic Witchcraft would be and Diane Vera who runs the Theistic Satanism site, and is apart of the Church of Azazel in New York. While magic is an individual thing, however many Satanic practitioners do practice the left hand path versus the right hand path.  

[Esiris]

Ravynne Sidhe

oOGarrettOo

Ravynne Sidhe

It's more accurate to say that Satanic witches practice the left hand path versus black magic.

I wouldn't even say that. Magic really can't be grouped like that. It's a personal thing.

As far as Satanism go, it is considered as the left hand path per both Anton LaVey who wrote the book "The Satanic Witch" which explains exactly what Satanic Witchcraft would be and Diane Vera who runs the Theistic Satanism site, and is apart of the Church of Azazel in New York. While magic is an individual thing, however many Satanic practitioners do practice the left hand path versus the right hand path.

But they don't really get to speak for all of Satanism- just their brands of Satanic witchcraft.  

[Ravynne Sidhe]

Esiris

Sanguina Cruenta

My understanding is that Stregheria is non-theistic in itself, though it was blended with beliefs of the time - in the same way to much of traditional witchcraft - but wouldn't be necessary for the modern strega.

Of course, knowledge of popular religion-brand Catholicism would probably help some.

It makes me curious- but for me I look at how Catholicism impacted my family during slavery and stuff, so I thought it might be similar. sweatdrop

Ravynne Sidhe

So is it safe to say that Aradia, Gospel of Witches isn't a text to read on Strega?

My impression is that it depends on the kind of Strega someone is going to practice- I'm pretty sure I read here on Gaia that it was debunked, then undebunked then redebunked or something like that- a lot of arguing back and forth.

A lot of what I do know from the book from what I've read in posts, and even the basic synopsis...it doesn't look to be true to me. To me it seems like complete fiction kinda like Crowley's Diary of a Drug Fiend (which somehow did find it's way in the Metaphysical section in Half Priced Books)  

[Ravynne Sidhe]

Esiris

Ravynne Sidhe

oOGarrettOo

Ravynne Sidhe

It's more accurate to say that Satanic witches practice the left hand path versus black magic.

I wouldn't even say that. Magic really can't be grouped like that. It's a personal thing.

As far as Satanism go, it is considered as the left hand path per both Anton LaVey who wrote the book "The Satanic Witch" which explains exactly what Satanic Witchcraft would be and Diane Vera who runs the Theistic Satanism site, and is apart of the Church of Azazel in New York. While magic is an individual thing, however many Satanic practitioners do practice the left hand path versus the right hand path.

But they don't really get to speak for all of Satanism- just their brands of Satanic witchcraft.

Not really brand of witchcraft but specific practice. LeVay for his Atheistic Satanism, Vera for her Theistic witchcraft. I know a few people from the LaVey side who practice the left hand path. I know Spiritual Satanists that practice the left hand path. And a Setian who also follows the Left Hand Path. It's not so much an assumption but a factor in their practice. That's what separates them from your run of the mill pagan who practices the Right Hand Path. The Left Hand path also includes Thelemites (I think) Chaotes, and "Dark" Pagans.  

[oOGarrettOo]

Ravynne Sidhe

oOGarrettOo

Ravynne Sidhe

It's more accurate to say that Satanic witches practice the left hand path versus black magic.

I wouldn't even say that. Magic really can't be grouped like that. It's a personal thing.

As far as Satanism go, it is considered as the left hand path per both Anton LaVey who wrote the book "The Satanic Witch" which explains exactly what Satanic Witchcraft would be and Diane Vera who runs the Theistic Satanism site, and is apart of the Church of Azazel in New York. While magic is an individual thing, however many Satanic practitioners do practice the left hand path versus the right hand path.

Lol well I guess so if that's what they're calling it xd I still think it's sort of silly, though.  

[Sanguina Cruenta]

Ravynne Sidhe

So is it safe to say that Aradia, Gospel of Witches isn't a text to read on Strega?

Can't hurt. I mean, I don't see that there'd be any problem believing in Aradia over Jesus, anyway. And there might be titbits in there of use. If you're not raised in it, it seems like a fair text to read. But I don't know enough about it myself to judge.  

[xX-Heathenborn-Xx]

Ravynne Sidhe

Sanguina Cruenta

Esiris

I'm pretty far off spiritually from Strega and this could just be my impression- based on growing up with the kind of religion that comes about from Catholicism trampling pagan religions because slave owners and stuff were Catholic- but wouldn't the kind of "Catholicism" that tended to get people excommunicated be a good place to start?

My understanding is that Stregheria is non-theistic in itself, though it was blended with beliefs of the time - in the same way to much of traditional witchcraft - but wouldn't be necessary for the modern strega.

Of course, knowledge of popular religion-brand Catholicism would probably help some.

So is it safe to say that Aradia, Gospel of Witches isn't a text to read on Strega?

while it is true the text is still tainted with a few medieval opinions on witchcraft, there are some very useful rituals and invocations and spells  

[X-Yami-no-Ko-X]

Ravynne Sidhe

oOGarrettOo

Ravynne Sidhe

It's more accurate to say that Satanic witches practice the left hand path versus black magic.

I wouldn't even say that. Magic really can't be grouped like that. It's a personal thing.

As far as Satanism go, it is considered as the left hand path per both Anton LaVey who wrote the book "The Satanic Witch" which explains exactly what Satanic Witchcraft would be and Diane Vera who runs the Theistic Satanism site, and is apart of the Church of Azazel in New York. While magic is an individual thing, however many Satanic practitioners do practice the left hand path versus the right hand path.

But to say there's a right hand and left hand path one would have to lay down what's right and what's wrong and what's right to one is not always right to another.  

[Sanguina Cruenta]

Christ, I have NO time for that "left hand path" /"right hand path" bullshit xd As if things were ever that simple - or that limited. Every time I hear it I want to punch a baby in the face.  

[Esiris]

Ravynne Sidhe

But they don't really get to speak for all of Satanism- just their brands of Satanic witchcraft.

Not really brand of witchcraft but specific practice. LeVay for his Atheistic Satanism, Vera for her Theistic witchcraft. I know a few people from the LaVey side who practice the left hand path. I know Spiritual Satanists that practice the left hand path. And a Setian who also follows the Left Hand Path. It's not so much an assumption but a factor in their practice. That's what separates them from your run of the mill pagan who practices the Right Hand Path. The Left Hand path also includes Thelemites (I think) Chaotes, and "Dark" Pagans.
I'm starting to wonder- how are you using "The Left Hand Path", like, what does that mean to you?

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A lot of what I do know from the book from what I've read in posts, and even the basic synopsis...it doesn't look to be true to me. To me it seems like complete fiction kinda like Crowley's Diary of a Drug Fiend (which somehow did find it's way in the Metaphysical section in Half Priced Books)

Even if it is made up- that doesn't mean there aren't people who practice using it.
It could be used to make a modern neo-pagan witchcraft religion and it wouldn't be the same as the old Italian Family Trads- but it could still be fulfilling.  

[Ravynne Sidhe]

oOGarrettOo

Ravynne Sidhe

oOGarrettOo

Ravynne Sidhe

It's more accurate to say that Satanic witches practice the left hand path versus black magic.

I wouldn't even say that. Magic really can't be grouped like that. It's a personal thing.

As far as Satanism go, it is considered as the left hand path per both Anton LaVey who wrote the book "The Satanic Witch" which explains exactly what Satanic Witchcraft would be and Diane Vera who runs the Theistic Satanism site, and is apart of the Church of Azazel in New York. While magic is an individual thing, however many Satanic practitioners do practice the left hand path versus the right hand path.

Lol well I guess so if that's what they're calling it xd I still think it's sort of silly, though.

It's sillier to call it black magic. Seriously anytime someone mentions black magic my mind goes to Final Fantasy. LOL! Half the time I want to say, sure I practice black magic. There's nothing more bitching than setting your enemy on fire. Oh you mean hexing....uhm yeah..magic has no color.

The same goes for whenever say BB to me. When people say BB, I don't think Blessed Be. I think Blue Ball. Which is the name of a skill in PWI which continuously heals your character and the parties hp.

Anyways...I suppose practicing either the LHP and or the RHP solely is silly. Hell it's even stupid. Without one you can't have the other. Which is why I'm looking to mix both in my practices, mirroring something a friend did minus without trying to lose my mind. I think it's already lost though.  

[oOGarrettOo]

Sanguina Cruenta

Christ, I have NO time for that "left hand path" /"right hand path" bullshit xd As if things were ever that simple - or that limited. Every time I hear it I want to punch a baby in the face.

Lol i don't know about punching babies, but the whole thing never made sense to me either.  

[xX-Heathenborn-Xx]

Esiris

circlelord13

my proof is history itself.

What history shows was that there were people, mostly Christians who weren't liked in their community, Muslims and Jews, and maybe the occasional "will not convert" pagans who were killed mostly by governments- local and national, for their own gain.

It doesn't show that one of your ancestors was one of them, or that they found her tools. Who was she? What was her name, the year she was executed and the list of charges?

i dunno it was my witch aunt who told me.... she is dead now.....  

[Ravynne Sidhe]

X-Yami-no-Ko-X

Ravynne Sidhe

oOGarrettOo

Ravynne Sidhe

It's more accurate to say that Satanic witches practice the left hand path versus black magic.

I wouldn't even say that. Magic really can't be grouped like that. It's a personal thing.

As far as Satanism go, it is considered as the left hand path per both Anton LaVey who wrote the book "The Satanic Witch" which explains exactly what Satanic Witchcraft would be and Diane Vera who runs the Theistic Satanism site, and is apart of the Church of Azazel in New York. While magic is an individual thing, however many Satanic practitioners do practice the left hand path versus the right hand path.

But to say there's a right hand and left hand path one would have to lay down what's right and what's wrong and what's right to one is not always right to another.

Going based off of memory the RHP deals with things like morality, goodness blah blah blah. LHP is more umm...I forget xDDD

I'll look it up tomorrow morning.