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Aerial Goddess

Vice Captain

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:07 pm


Alesaan

Dante Dolly

Judges, I am going to plead my case that one of you changes your vote before
Wolf makes the final call.

It's no secret that I've been a fan of Tink's submissions since PC 1 and was
devastated when she'd been eliminated without my vote. However, I'm not
pleading my case on her behalf. I'm doing it for the integrity of this contest.

If you don't like her design, that's one thing that I can't argue with. You're all
entitled to your own tastes and I respect that. However, the reasons for not
wanting her 3rd win are rubbing me the wrong way.

It's annoying when it seems like someone is sweeping the competition
(coughs*Dante*coughs*4 wins*coughs*). However, in a world where no good
deed goes unpunished, it is especially important to remember this:
→ → → Always give credit where credit is due ← ← ←

If the only reason she's not deserving of a win is because she's had 2 others,
that's a poor excuse. It's clear by her entries that she works hard on them. A
hell of a lot harder than some others, so what is wrong with recognizing that
and rewarding it? If anything, it should be a wake-up call to the others to get
their s**t together and get their asses in gear.

And then saying that she's copying a design, I personally feel is a far stretch to
say the least. Her submission was exactly her style. It was dark and edgy, like
many of her designs are. Playing Devil's advocate here, who's to say Ren
wasn't copying Tink's signature style? Look back at every challenge issued
and you will see that Ren repeatedly submits cute and pretty designs. This is
legit the ONLY time she had ever submitted something so edgy. She could
have been jealous of Tink's flawless reviews and decided to copy her.

And saying that Ren is copying Tink sounds just as dumb as the reverse.

I'm not trying to pick on either of you. I just don't want to be bringing people
down because they worked so hard to get to the top and I don't want us to be
stretching for excuses to call out plagiarism. I'm certain that you will come
across a real plagiarizer soon enough because this contest can attract them
sometimes. When you see it for real, you'll know it and you'll be ********
furious. And it will be a big difference between a cheat and someone who
used the same arm mod and a similar style wing.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:09 pm


bad wolf bae

Dude! You ruined my big speech by posting before me lol.
I had been working on that for the last hour!!


Aerial Goddess

Vice Captain


bad wolf bae
Captain

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:13 pm


                The_Slytherin_Goddess


                Ahh, I'm sorry! I got eager with the post and getting the chance to reply while at work. xD
PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:32 pm


The_Slytherin_Goddess


I want to be clear that my intention was never to bring Tink down. She has an immaculate style and is a clear front runner. However, she has used the same mods as other players before within the same round and just because she is good at using them doesn’t mean she shouldn’t take a point hit in the creativity department. I’m not saying it’s a crime against humanity, just a little lazy. Also, at the risk of repeating myself, I found this look a little bland. Beautiful but bland, because Tink’s style relies heavily on popular scheme + popular items and as such can wind up looking more run-of-the-mill than she intends. Also, I try to base my judgement somewhat on what I thought was expected of me in competition, and that’s supposed to be more than just making the most popular look, because pretty isn’t always structurally sound or original.

That said, the look is lovely despite my crit and I totally respect Bae’s choice. I would add though, as someone who did sweep challenges, we may be setting Tink up for disappointment. If she’s given a load of wins and in the end is sent home for things that got her points in the past, it’s going to hurt more in the face of those old wins. I’m not angry I lost cycle one, but it would be a lie to say it didn’t sting a little. Plus I think spreading out wins is good for morale when looks are as on par as this. Again, not trying to be confrontational, I just wanted to explain my reasoning.

Dante Dolly

Deathly Lover

40,475 Points
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  • Fluff Rehab 200

bad wolf bae
Captain

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:54 pm


                I have to say, even though it gets tough when there's so much debate among the judges, I did really love there getting to be a debate. There's a reason there are so many judges and voices going on, and I prefer debate over blind agreement.

                I did send egg a tip of 2500 platinum.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:03 pm


I know the next challenge's title post has been posted, so I will delete this post in a day after everyone has had a chance to see it since as always I'm a little late to the discussion. I agree with Dante on a lot of what has been said already. I liked Egg's design more, as indicated by my score. I also like to see diversity in the winners to encourage designers so they don't feel like why bother 'cuz it is almost always _____ who wins. It rubbed me as lazy to have a design so similar to another designers when the designer is clearly capable of such brilliant and uniquely creative designs. I am fine for a by the numbers win as this was, but when asked for our input, I choose and stand by Egg's design.

Alesaan

Star-Crossed Memory


bad wolf bae
Captain

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:58 pm


Challenge 7: This is War

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I saw Suicide's initial post before the deadline, and despite it being late by mere seconds, I saw we count it. I don't want two automatic eliminations because they didn't submit. I mainly don't want a double elimination because I don't want to drop any of the few remaining challenges. -Bae
PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:00 pm


            Challenge 7: This is War


            x_suicide_is_inevitable_x (Daphne)
            Score: 7.5
            Comments: I wish this wasn't so dark, because it's hard to see details. But I love seeing Daphne looking so different and dramatic and dark from how she normally looks! This has a very Deadpool/Spider Gwen cosplay kind of vibe, and I really like that. Don't super like how her eyebrows stand out. But this is a solid entry, and is definitely a different look.

            khionna (Veronica)
            Score: 8
            Comments: These are gorgeous colors, and Veronica looks amazing, honestly. I love these colors on her so much, love her as this fierce jungle warrior. The legs are a little oddly balanced and feel a little heavy, but it's a minor thing. Larger issue for me is the hand in front of her mouth that I don't think is holding a knife? And her make up...it is very gorgeous war paint. Borders on not being war paint. But the over all package is quite pleasing.

            Tink_Bel (Zahara)
            Score: 7
            Comments: The vibrancy of the colors - aside from looking great on Zahara - give me a bit of a video game vibe. I think the matchy-ness of it adds to that vibe. I like this for the most part, but it does...I dunno, there's something lacking. It's a video game character, and doesn't really feel as realistic as what I hoped to see? The gun is not a believable weapon either, looks like it'll be shooting bubbles. Fantastic bubbles, and I want to see it, but bubbles.

            METTAT0N (Ebony)
            Score: 4
            Comments: I like that Mett went for a feudal Japan kind of vibe and an entirely different era for the look than anyone else went with. I like that creativity. But that is about where the likes end, and I'm surprised to see this from Mett. I expected more. This feels kind of lazy, and the purple is just a bit too bold to only be in the one spot. And while I like the idea of feudal Japan, and I think swords are good weapons for Ebony, I don't think this look lends itself well to her hair and other features. I also wish she'd been holding a sword.

            RENstrawberry (Madison)
            Score: N/A
            Comments: No Entry :(

            Kiwi Cannoli (Brooke)
            Score: 6.5
            Comments: The background is weird. At first glance the essence of it makes sense, but when I really look at it...it's just a bit weird. Brooke is absolutely gorgeous in these colors though, and I love great she looks. She's an elegant warrior queen. But. I wish she was more of a warrior. This is just a bit too gorgeous, and I just...she doesn't feel like she's ever really used that weapon outside of ceremonial uses.

            egggoat (Xoco)
            Score: 8.5
            Comments: I like this. I like the..street vibe. Futuristic street vibe. But I don't know that I like the smoke and setting things? It just feels a little off. I think I would have liked some kind of cityscape in the background, ideally something mostly demolished. I love the futuristic weapons and war paint though - this is my favourite war paint - and the balance of the piece. Love it. But this does remind me on Tink's look, similar color balance to it though this feels more real. This isn't the first time that Xoco has been done up similar to Zahara, and I wish someone would embrace some of Xoco's more unique features. That said, it isn't like Xoco doesn't look great, so it just is what it is.

bad wolf bae
Captain



Aerial Goddess

Vice Captain

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:10 am


reserved
PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:27 pm


Challenge 6: Under my SKIN


x_suicide_is_inevitable_x (Ebony)
Score: tba
Comments: tba

khionna (Veronica)
Score: tba
Comments: tba

Tink_Bel (Zahara)
Score: tba
Comments: tba

METTAT0N (Brooke)
Score: tba
Comments: tba

RENstrawberry (Madison)
Score: tba
Comments: tba

Kiwi Cannoli (Daphne)
Score: tba
Comments: tba

egggoat (Xoco)
Score: tba
Comments: tba

Dante Dolly

Deathly Lover

40,475 Points
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  • Fluff Rehab 200

Alesaan

Star-Crossed Memory

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:03 pm


Challenge Seven

Suicide – Daphne – 7
Anyone else think Spider Gwen at first glance? Or rather a Deadpool/Spider Gwen crossover? I love seeing Daphne look more threatening since she always looks so pretty with her features. Blocking most of her flowing hair and adding the dark, comic-like makeup really does make her look different. Love the pose and the weapon feels absolutely necessary for this outfit. The biggest issue I have with the image is that it looks like she has double eyebrows to me. It is odd looking. There also isn’t much going on with the outfit. It’s mostly the pose and makeup.

Kiwi – Brooke – 7
The haze sets a nice tone but I’m kinda confused by the background. It looks like it has icicles on the top left, a fire burning in the top right, and a reddish flooring of some sort. Plus then the window or door frame. It comes off as incoherent. The shade of blue and gold is great on Brooke and I really love the outfit. The shape of the skirt, the headpiece, the armor and boots are all lovely. Upper nitpicky so I didn’t dock for it, but the dagger comes off as a stunted sword (and not a useful short sword even). But I know that to be a limitation with Gaia and Kiwi did address struggling with the weapon and how it clipped Brooke’s hair. The weapon does match thematically and color wise though.

Khionna – Veronica – 8.5
Love the outfit an makeup. The strappy boots, the fathers in the hair, the sash top and chiseled abs – awesome choices. The background works well and the dagger(s?) make sense. Does she have a dagger in the hand near her face too? There is a little white line that makes me think so but it gets lost near her chin so I could be seeing the background maybe? Major points for a unique vision and creativity though.

METATT0N – Ebony – 5
The most underwhelming design this round I think. The top is nice and the gloves and swords match well. The skirt and belt tassel come off as predictable and lazy. Nothing about this outfit feels fresh to a Japanese inspired design or fresh for Ebony. And where I am normally totally ok with an accent color not being seen in the outfit again, this is one of the few times I wish we did have that purple tie into the design or background in another spot. As is, this is someone I’d a** on the bridge nodding a hello to and would forget a second later.

Egggoat – Xoco - 8.5
I thought the laser bot and Xoco’s laser eye patch were the weapons. I didn’t notice the bat at first and even then it didn’t register that that was the weapon until I read the description. I was pretty bummed, I loved the idea of these lasers and it really fir the futuristic punk vibe. Oh well. I love the bandana and it is a close enough red to the other shade that it works for me. The crouch and her expression if do not f*** with me are great. The smoke is very atmospheric and I love how this outfit is deceptively simplistic. The elements of the high-tops, the bandana, the hoodie are all very street chic as well as elements of black culture. Egggoat clearly knew what to do with Xoco and the only miss for me is the face markings – I would have done with a different marking of sort as this one looks generic as opposed to a marking that had meaning behind it.

Tink – Zahara – 7
I adore the thirsty color scheme and it looks great on Zahara. Seriously one of my fav on Gaia. But for me the scheme looks way too “I’m in a photo shoot trying to look amazing” rather than I am a warrior chick with a weapon – you better back the f*** off. The background was right on, but the dragon gun looks like a fun toy and she does not look dirty enough for this scene .I think part of the problem is the vibrancy of the colors – why would she be trying to stand out? Also, every part of her outfit is of the same color scheme – it looks to matchy matchy to me. Matchy matchy comes off as lazy (to me at least) even when a ton of thought was put into the outfit because it doesn’t look like the designer was trying to innovate and be creative and push the fashion boundaries.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:18 pm


Hello everyone! Just wanted to pop in to say I’ll be working on my judging Friday, and will be getting an announcement out tomorrow about things. I also have a message from Ren that I will be able to share with you all! Sorry for being rather absent the last few days, busy weekend was followed by busy work followed by a cousin from out of state visiting today. Friday is my day off though and there are no plans except for getting caught up on things here.

Edit; Here is the message from Ren:

Hey,
Feel free to share this with the other judges/staff coordinating this current cycle.
I would like to appologize for not participating in this past week’s challenge and I understand I will be removed. I’ve been swamped with college, my extracurricular activities, and art gallery I’m putting together. I’m sendig this out just to keep a good relationship with the Project Catwalk guild. This guild in particular has motivated a lot of my activity on Gaia and I’d hate to be unable to coloborate with all of you in the future.
My sincere apologies.
Wish me luck with my gallery!

bad wolf bae
Captain


bad wolf bae
Captain

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:03 pm


                Hello again! So in the interest of keeping things moving, we'll post the next challenge tomorrow. If Dante and Goddess can do their judgement today, fantastic, or if they need just one more day to do that then we'll post results Wednesday.

                Ren is obviously out. And based on the numbers currently, it looks like Egg is the winner.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:34 pm


Challenge 8: The Ugly Duckling

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