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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:24 pm
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:36 pm
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:46 pm
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:03 am
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:44 am
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:30 pm
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:17 pm
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:48 pm
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:08 pm
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:38 pm
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Before you criticize this so harshly, please realize that I am speaking from TONS of experience. This might seem like a simple matter of "running into the wrong guys" but the point that I'm trying to emphasize is that it shouldn't be so difficult to find what I'm looking for and it's all because of a moral degradation.
So to begin:
I hate being a f*****t.
I know that's a harsh word (to say the least) but nothing else can describe my contempt and lack of confidence in the scum that calls itself the "gay community" today.
My grandfather was a gay man himself. When he found out that I was gay he became immediately protective and admitted to hoping that I would change my mind. I first became defensive and told him up one side and down the other about how a lot has changed since the 60s and 70s and he should realize that. I told him that I have very strong morals and I am proud to abide by them. He eventually gave up arguing and told me that I'd one day learn.
It's only now, 3 days after his unfortunate death, that I see what he meant. I'm finding it harder and harder (especially in this wild City of Seattle that thinks a "moral" is a type of tooth) to find gay guys who are interested in anything but sex.
Of course as soon as I find a guy who's interested in just being my friend, it turns out it's only because he has an attitude that goes something like "Oh, that's OK if we're just friends because I can get sex from anyone anytime... and I do." Is he interested in a relationship? Of course not! Not if I can't give him sex first!
So the usual defense to this is "Well you gotta try before you buy!" I have to say that that is complete and total bullshit. Sure, you might see a nude photo of him or make out with him and grope him through his pants... but why in the world does it have to go so far as ejaculating before you're committed to him?
And then there's this other breed of guys; I'm sure you know the one I mean. They're not incredibly attractive, might be average, maybe slightly below. You kinda forget about that though because you realize that they have a fairly tame sexual past, good, strong morals, and a willingness to treat you with respect. Sure, you're not getting a god in the sack and your friends pull the shallow "you can do better" but that all doesn't matter to you because he's got a personality like no other.
And then it happens: Anything from a new haircut to the hot guy checking him out at the bar can trigger it. However it happens, you're suddenly aware that he's always wanted to sleep around; he's just never been given the opportunity. Now that the opportunity has arisen he's off to ******** the brains out of every blond twink he can possibly find to take him.
So I suddenly am aware that the only way I can possibly find happiness with a man is to give up everything that I feel makes me who I am. I have to sleep around and offer my body to any guy I find that interests me because that's the only way he'll even consider dating me. Otherwise, he'll just be my friend and continue to ******** around.
Hell.... he might even ******** around while we're dating.
And since my morals are something I'd die without... I guess my only options are to be alone or be straight. I don't know if I can handle either...
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:50 pm
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:59 pm
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I'd actually suggest looking for a more mature gay man, someone in their 30's maybe. I know it sounds ick, but if you're looking to avoid someone who's all party and sleaze, then an older man might be the answer.
I just don't get it with the young crazy gay male lifestyle. There's more to life than taking ecstasy, drinking and dancing, and then having a quick ******** in a bathroom that's already occupied by four other people doing the exact same thing. What ever happened to being a rather dull person? I'd settle for a normal kind of guy, the kind of guy who works a 9-5 job, comes home, has a beer (maybe), and watches some football on TV. I'd come home from my job and we might cook something together and have dinner. If he felt like it, we might have sex afterwards and then sleep. Not the most exciting way of living, but it has it's charms.
I don't know. It's depressing how grim the gay dating scene is.
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:24 pm
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CoffeeFox I'd actually suggest looking for a more mature gay man, someone in their 30's maybe. I know it sounds ick, but if you're looking to avoid someone who's all party and sleaze, then an older man might be the answer. I just don't get it with the young crazy gay male lifestyle. There's more to life than taking ecstasy, drinking and dancing, and then having a quick ******** in a bathroom that's already occupied by four other people doing the exact same thing. What ever happened to being a rather dull person? I'd settle for a normal kind of guy, the kind of guy who works a 9-5 job, comes home, has a beer (maybe), and watches some football on TV. I'd come home from my job and we might cook something together and have dinner. If he felt like it, we might have sex afterwards and then sleep. Not the most exciting way of living, but it has it's charms. I don't know. It's depressing how grim the gay dating scene is.
I've only heard about the gay side of the dating scene but not the lesbian side. I've had several gay and lesbian friends and seems like both sides are fairly raunchy. But the funny thing is, is that in my dog training group, we always seem to have a lesbian in there and both women have had really fulfilling and lengthy relationships with their partners. I think J. (omitted name for safety) just celebrated her 35th anniversary with her partner and the other one celebrated their 30th anniversary.
So hang in there.
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:41 pm
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CoffeeFox I'd actually suggest looking for a more mature gay man, someone in their 30's maybe. I know it sounds ick, but if you're looking to avoid someone who's all party and sleaze, then an older man might be the answer.
I don't see anything wrong with a guy in his 30s. That's not that old. It's not like he's all grey and wrinkled. razz Plus, I've seen some really hot guys that are in their 30s... Though that was porn...
CoffeeFox I just don't get it with the young crazy gay male lifestyle. There's more to life than taking ecstasy, drinking and dancing, and then having a quick ******** in a bathroom that's already occupied by four other people doing the exact same thing.
I think that's the crazy and young lifestyle, men can just do the same thing more often. razz
CoffeeFox What ever happened to being a rather dull person? I'd settle for a normal kind of guy, the kind of guy who works a 9-5 job, comes home, has a beer (maybe), and watches some football on TV. I'd come home from my job and we might cook something together and have dinner. If he felt like it, we might have sex afterwards and then sleep. Not the most exciting way of living, but it has it's charms.
I could go for the same thing Fog...minus the football. (I don't get it. <.<; ) Though I certainly wouldn't mind a little excitement...you know...doing something risky and rebellious... like buying a lottery ticket! surprised
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:56 am
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