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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:23 pm
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FogSage Asphyxiat!on It's nobody's fault but your own. You didn't apply yourself and you didn't finish it. You can't get depressed for what you brought on yourself. Maybe if you weren't so cynical about everything, and you actually saw the good at the end, you could have applied yourself to it and gotten it done and passed Excuse me? I can't get depressed for what I bring on myself? My dear, I am constantly, unceasingly depressed. Depression is the perpetual state of my LIFE. And no, I didn't apply myself. I slacked off for two days, but I still made an attempt and I got damn close to finishing it too. I don't really think I care about learning. I think all I care about is passing classes and graduating and then getting a job somewhere doing something. What good am I if I can't even do that? You know what, I have depression to but i don't use it as an excuse. I sometimes have to put off commissions for it, I don't get upset or angry if a commissioner is like 'where's my art' and I have to tell them I had to put it off cause of my own problems. It's my own fault, and I'm not going to sit and wallow in it. I go right back to working on it. If you're really so depressed, seek psychiatric help instead of claiming all they do is suck you dry of money. It's that kind of behavior that will probably lead to your depression getting so bad that you will inevitably take your own life. And who can you blame? Only yourself because you wouldn't seek the help you needed
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:31 pm
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Asphyxiat!on FogSage Asphyxiat!on It's nobody's fault but your own. You didn't apply yourself and you didn't finish it. You can't get depressed for what you brought on yourself. Maybe if you weren't so cynical about everything, and you actually saw the good at the end, you could have applied yourself to it and gotten it done and passed Excuse me? I can't get depressed for what I bring on myself? My dear, I am constantly, unceasingly depressed. Depression is the perpetual state of my LIFE. And no, I didn't apply myself. I slacked off for two days, but I still made an attempt and I got damn close to finishing it too. I don't really think I care about learning. I think all I care about is passing classes and graduating and then getting a job somewhere doing something. What good am I if I can't even do that? You know what, I have depression to but i don't use it as an excuse. I sometimes have to put off commissions for it, I don't get upset or angry if a commissioner is like 'where's my art' and I have to tell them I had to put it off cause of my own problems. It's my own fault, and I'm not going to sit and wallow in it. I go right back to working on it. If you're really so depressed, seek psychiatric help instead of claiming all they do is suck you dry of money. It's that kind of behavior that will probably lead to your depression getting so bad that you will inevitably take your own life. And who can you blame? Only yourself because you wouldn't seek the help you needed
Going to a psychiatrist won't help. They're too stupid. Yes, they'll analyze you and tell you what's wrong with you and stuff you full of pills and good advice. But they've never experienced it, they don't understand. They don't know what it's like to feel depression so crippling that you go to bed wishing you would never wake up. They don't know what it's like to be in a world full of people and to feel alone every second of every hour of every day of every year, to be cut off from the entire world and to have no way of fixing it. They don't know what it's like to have dreams and then to realize that your dreams are empty, hollow, and foolish, that they and you will never succeed. They nod and look serious and try to understand, bless them, but they can't. It's beyond their understanding.
They know nothing of this, and if they don't know, they can never help me.
It's like a picture. An artist pours out their soul into it, and people come along and say it's this and this and this and this, when it's not. People can never understand what it's like to be the artist of that picture. They can only assume, and assuming doesn't cut it.
And that's my rant for this evening.
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:44 pm
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:46 pm
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:07 pm
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FogSage Asphyxiat!on FogSage Asphyxiat!on It's nobody's fault but your own. You didn't apply yourself and you didn't finish it. You can't get depressed for what you brought on yourself. Maybe if you weren't so cynical about everything, and you actually saw the good at the end, you could have applied yourself to it and gotten it done and passed Excuse me? I can't get depressed for what I bring on myself? My dear, I am constantly, unceasingly depressed. Depression is the perpetual state of my LIFE. And no, I didn't apply myself. I slacked off for two days, but I still made an attempt and I got damn close to finishing it too. I don't really think I care about learning. I think all I care about is passing classes and graduating and then getting a job somewhere doing something. What good am I if I can't even do that? You know what, I have depression to but i don't use it as an excuse. I sometimes have to put off commissions for it, I don't get upset or angry if a commissioner is like 'where's my art' and I have to tell them I had to put it off cause of my own problems. It's my own fault, and I'm not going to sit and wallow in it. I go right back to working on it. If you're really so depressed, seek psychiatric help instead of claiming all they do is suck you dry of money. It's that kind of behavior that will probably lead to your depression getting so bad that you will inevitably take your own life. And who can you blame? Only yourself because you wouldn't seek the help you needed Going to a psychiatrist won't help. They're too stupid. Yes, they'll analyze you and tell you what's wrong with you and stuff you full of pills and good advice. But they've never experienced it, they don't understand. They don't know what it's like to feel depression so crippling that you go to bed wishing you would never wake up. They don't know what it's like to be in a world full of people and to feel alone every second of every hour of every day of every year, to be cut off from the entire world and to have no way of fixing it. They don't know what it's like to have dreams and then to realize that your dreams are empty, hollow, and foolish, that they and you will never succeed. They nod and look serious and try to understand, bless them, but they can't. It's beyond their understanding. They know nothing of this, and if they don't know, they can never help me. It's like a picture. An artist pours out their soul into it, and people come along and say it's this and this and this and this, when it's not. People can never understand what it's like to be the artist of that picture. They can only assume, and assuming doesn't cut it. And that's my rant for this evening. The pure ignorance that you just typed is insanely absurd and not even worth arguing. You don't want help, fine. But when your a** is in a psychiatric ward for trying to kill yourself, you have no one to blame but yourself.
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:08 pm
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FogSage Afina Maslow Sooo tempted to rebuke you for that, Fog, but it wouldn't do any good. I'll save my energy confused No, please tell me. You're a psychiatrist or something of that sort, aren't you? What I'm trying to say here is....you're not me. Nobody else is me but me. And if you're not me, then you can't understand. How could you possibly understand me, how could you possibly understand what I'm going through? You don't understand because you have hope. Because you try to be positive about life. Because a dozen other reasons and ways. You are not a pessimist and a defeatist. You are not lazy, immoral, disgusting. You are not any of those things. Again, how can you understand? You say this as if it's a psychologist's job to have been there before they can give advice. Well, that could very well have happened. They're not just born into that position with the all the wisdom of the world, expecting to handle every situation. It's a hard position to work towards. It's like trying to work towards any other position in any other field. It's hard, VERY hard work, and it takes a lot of time and patience to even have the willpower to handle the stuff they work with on a daily basis. Likely, someone going into the field of clinical psychology will face just as much hardships as, say, a teacher trying to find a job, and I can tell you there's not a very open market for either in our world.
Even then, it's not their job to have experienced or to know exactly what you're going through. Their empathy can only go so far. Every licensed therapist must go through their own treatment before they can practice. They have to be psychoanalyzed like any of their clients will be. This is to prevent them from having any hang ups on the job. But still, they aren't expected to know exactly what you're going through. You're right, they aren't you. But, this is what their job is to find. This is why you seek therapy, to explain in as much detail as you can, exploring every possible reason you can think of as to why you feel the way you do. You have to get to the root of the problem before you can make anything better. That's their job. They're there to facilitate and help you get to the source of your problems. They don't need to know how you feel because you give them all the information they'll need. And if you hold back anything from them, then they can only help you so much.
I have hope because it's what keeps me from doing anything unreasonable. Why ruin everything when there's a chance it could get better? Even if nothing ever does get better, you'll never have that chance if you're dead, so why blow it?
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:10 pm
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Afina Maslow FogSage Afina Maslow Sooo tempted to rebuke you for that, Fog, but it wouldn't do any good. I'll save my energy confused No, please tell me. You're a psychiatrist or something of that sort, aren't you? What I'm trying to say here is....you're not me. Nobody else is me but me. And if you're not me, then you can't understand. How could you possibly understand me, how could you possibly understand what I'm going through? You don't understand because you have hope. Because you try to be positive about life. Because a dozen other reasons and ways. You are not a pessimist and a defeatist. You are not lazy, immoral, disgusting. You are not any of those things. Again, how can you understand? You say this as if it's a psychologist's job to have been there before they can give advice. Well, that could very well have happened. They're not just born into that position with the all the wisdom of the world, expecting to handle every situation. It's a hard position to work towards. It's like trying to work towards any other position in any other field. It's hard, VERY hard work, and it takes a lot of time and patience to even have the willpower to handle the stuff they work with on a daily basis. Likely, someone going into the field of clinical psychology will face just as much hardships as, say, a teacher trying to find a job, and I can tell you there's not a very open market for either in our world. Even then, it's not their job to have experienced or to know exactly what you're going through. Their empathy can only go so far. Every licensed therapist must go through their own treatment before they can practice. They have to be psychoanalyzed like any of their clients will be. This is to prevent them from having any hang ups on the job. But still, they aren't expected to know exactly what you're going through. You're right, they aren't you. But, this is what their job is to find. This is why you seek therapy, to explain in as much detail as you can, exploring every possible reason you can think of as to why you feel the way you do. You have to get to the root of the problem before you can make anything better. That's their job. They're there to facilitate and help you get to the source of your problems. They don't need to know how you feel because you give them all the information they'll need. And if you hold back anything from them, then they can only help you so much. I have hope because it's what keeps me from doing anything unreasonable. Why ruin everything when there's a chance it could get better? Even if nothing ever does get better, you'll never have that chance if you're dead, so why blow it? They also give you therapy and an ear to talk to. That's what psychiatrists are there for. The meds they give you aren't permanent unless you suffer a severe disorder like Schizophrenia, Multiple Personality Disorder, or severe paranoia. Depression medications are meant to be short term until you go through enough therapy that you no longer need to be placed on them because you know how to handle your problems yourself without bawling about it or needing meds.
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:51 pm
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:23 pm
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:48 pm
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:37 pm
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:38 pm
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:15 pm
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Forcive Habit Sunegami You can always go through temp. agencies for a while, Fog. I've gotten some good-paying jobs that way when I was strapped for cash. That's very true, and you can always go to a Job Action, or a career counselor to help you figure out different skills you have, but may not know about 3nodding [...] And there's tons of jobs out there that you don't need a college, or even a high school diploma for. Don't need a high school education to drive a car, look to see if you can get a job working in a car lot (just an example >> ). And you can go to a community college to get any vocational training you'd need to work in an office. : )
My boyfriend's brother is a chemical engineer, but for a while he had a job as a valet at a hotel here in Pittsburgh. He made serious money doing that. 3nodding
I also had a job as a transcriptionist for a law firm; the only thing I needed for that job was to be able to type relatively fast. Got paid $9 for it. I loved that job. whee
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:04 am
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:09 am
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