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 Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:06 am
Um... if it's an older shotgun don't use the steel rounds.
They can damage the barrel.
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:45 pm
OberFeldwebel Um... if it's an older shotgun don't use the steel rounds. They can damage the barrel. Wait, so if they ban lead shot, then what can you use in old guns? Also, there's three rifles up for raffle this weekend at the local range. One F-class rifle (something like this), one Palma rifle (think something along these lines), and a rebuilt and fully tuned-up Garand ( Not the best picture, but that's the actual rifle). Proceeds go to the F-class team, the veterans' team, and the junior team respectively. Not sure if I wanna throw in some money or not. Probably not. Any one of them would net me a damn sweet rifle though.
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:36 pm
OberFeldwebel Um... if it's an older shotgun don't use the steel rounds. They can damage the barrel. It's a BRAND NEW 870 Express.
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:53 pm
Fresnel OberFeldwebel Um... if it's an older shotgun don't use the steel rounds. They can damage the barrel. Wait, so if they ban lead shot, then what can you use in old guns? Also, there's three rifles up for raffle this weekend at the local range. One F-class rifle (something like this), one Palma rifle (think something along these lines), and a rebuilt and fully tuned-up Garand ( Not the best picture, but that's the actual rifle). Proceeds go to the F-class team, the veterans' team, and the junior team respectively. Not sure if I wanna throw in some money or not. Probably not. Any one of them would net me a damn sweet rifle though. My understanding is that lead shot was banned. Or it is banned from being used on game. Studies that weren't sided towards anti-gun have shown that lead shot doesn't do what the anti-gun leaners say. I was talking about your grandpa's old break action.
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:10 pm
Barru Fresnel OberFeldwebel Um... if it's an older shotgun don't use the steel rounds. They can damage the barrel. Wait, so if they ban lead shot, then what can you use in old guns? Also, there's three rifles up for raffle this weekend at the local range. One F-class rifle (something like this), one Palma rifle (think something along these lines), and a rebuilt and fully tuned-up Garand ( Not the best picture, but that's the actual rifle). Proceeds go to the F-class team, the veterans' team, and the junior team respectively. Not sure if I wanna throw in some money or not. Probably not. Any one of them would net me a damn sweet rifle though. My understanding is that lead shot was banned. Or it is banned from being used on game. Studies that weren't sided towards anti-gun have shown that lead shot doesn't do what the anti-gun leaners say. I was talking about your grandpa's old break action. As far as I know, it's only banned in a handful of states. They banned it in Cali saying that Condors were dying from lead poisoning. Personally, I'd be more worried that PEOPLE ARE SHOTGUNNING CALIFORNIA CONDORS, but no, that's logical. I do believe the no-lead law has been shot down (no pun intended) several times here in AZ.
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:13 pm
Barru Fresnel OberFeldwebel Um... if it's an older shotgun don't use the steel rounds. They can damage the barrel. Wait, so if they ban lead shot, then what can you use in old guns? Also, there's three rifles up for raffle this weekend at the local range. One F-class rifle (something like this), one Palma rifle (think something along these lines), and a rebuilt and fully tuned-up Garand ( Not the best picture, but that's the actual rifle). Proceeds go to the F-class team, the veterans' team, and the junior team respectively. Not sure if I wanna throw in some money or not. Probably not. Any one of them would net me a damn sweet rifle though. My understanding is that lead shot was banned. Or it is banned from being used on game. Studies that weren't sided towards anti-gun have shown that lead shot doesn't do what the anti-gun leaners say. I was talking about your grandpa's old break action. He has two single-shot break actions, and then the double-barrel that I use. All in 20 gauge. The SxS, while no longer made, is still pretty damn new and very robust.
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:32 am
uryu ishida Barru Fresnel OberFeldwebel Um... if it's an older shotgun don't use the steel rounds. They can damage the barrel. Wait, so if they ban lead shot, then what can you use in old guns? Also, there's three rifles up for raffle this weekend at the local range. One F-class rifle (something like this), one Palma rifle (think something along these lines), and a rebuilt and fully tuned-up Garand ( Not the best picture, but that's the actual rifle). Proceeds go to the F-class team, the veterans' team, and the junior team respectively. Not sure if I wanna throw in some money or not. Probably not. Any one of them would net me a damn sweet rifle though. My understanding is that lead shot was banned. Or it is banned from being used on game. Studies that weren't sided towards anti-gun have shown that lead shot doesn't do what the anti-gun leaners say. I was talking about your grandpa's old break action. He has two single-shot break actions, and then the double-barrel that I use. All in 20 gauge. The SxS, while no longer made, is still pretty damn new and very robust. Ah cool. I'm dabbling in the idea of getting a Grandpa shotty. Thinking about an over under in 12 gauge. Probably 3" or 3 1/2". They make a 3 1/2" right? I thought I heard they did. I've been doing some looking and all I'm finding is some fancy pants etched custom s**t that costs many thousands of dollars. Ah here we go... http://www.gunmuse.com/Catalog/Baikal/GM_741566106958Perfect.
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:17 pm
Barru uryu ishida Barru Fresnel OberFeldwebel Um... if it's an older shotgun don't use the steel rounds. They can damage the barrel. Wait, so if they ban lead shot, then what can you use in old guns? Also, there's three rifles up for raffle this weekend at the local range. One F-class rifle (something like this), one Palma rifle (think something along these lines), and a rebuilt and fully tuned-up Garand ( Not the best picture, but that's the actual rifle). Proceeds go to the F-class team, the veterans' team, and the junior team respectively. Not sure if I wanna throw in some money or not. Probably not. Any one of them would net me a damn sweet rifle though. My understanding is that lead shot was banned. Or it is banned from being used on game. Studies that weren't sided towards anti-gun have shown that lead shot doesn't do what the anti-gun leaners say. I was talking about your grandpa's old break action. He has two single-shot break actions, and then the double-barrel that I use. All in 20 gauge. The SxS, while no longer made, is still pretty damn new and very robust. Ah cool. I'm dabbling in the idea of getting a Grandpa shotty. Thinking about an over under in 12 gauge. Probably 3" or 3 1/2". They make a 3 1/2" right? I thought I heard they did. I've been doing some looking and all I'm finding is some fancy pants etched custom s**t that costs many thousands of dollars. Ah here we go... http://www.gunmuse.com/Catalog/Baikal/GM_741566106958Perfect. A lot of companies make trap and skeet guns, though I think those are more often side-by-side.
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:24 pm
Fresnel Barru uryu ishida Barru Fresnel OberFeldwebel Um... if it's an older shotgun don't use the steel rounds. They can damage the barrel. Wait, so if they ban lead shot, then what can you use in old guns? Also, there's three rifles up for raffle this weekend at the local range. One F-class rifle (something like this), one Palma rifle (think something along these lines), and a rebuilt and fully tuned-up Garand ( Not the best picture, but that's the actual rifle). Proceeds go to the F-class team, the veterans' team, and the junior team respectively. Not sure if I wanna throw in some money or not. Probably not. Any one of them would net me a damn sweet rifle though. My understanding is that lead shot was banned. Or it is banned from being used on game. Studies that weren't sided towards anti-gun have shown that lead shot doesn't do what the anti-gun leaners say. I was talking about your grandpa's old break action. He has two single-shot break actions, and then the double-barrel that I use. All in 20 gauge. The SxS, while no longer made, is still pretty damn new and very robust. Ah cool. I'm dabbling in the idea of getting a Grandpa shotty. Thinking about an over under in 12 gauge. Probably 3" or 3 1/2". They make a 3 1/2" right? I thought I heard they did. I've been doing some looking and all I'm finding is some fancy pants etched custom s**t that costs many thousands of dollars. Ah here we go... http://www.gunmuse.com/Catalog/Baikal/GM_741566106958Perfect. A lot of companies make trap and skeet guns, though I think those are more often side-by-side. I always thought that most trap/skeet shotguns were O/U, and that CHEAPER companies use SxS. The rational might be the slightly different points of aim for each barrel if they were not in nearly a straight line, making it harder to consistently hit.
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:51 pm
uryu ishida Fresnel Barru uryu ishida Barru My understanding is that lead shot was banned. Or it is banned from being used on game. Studies that weren't sided towards anti-gun have shown that lead shot doesn't do what the anti-gun leaners say. I was talking about your grandpa's old break action. He has two single-shot break actions, and then the double-barrel that I use. All in 20 gauge. The SxS, while no longer made, is still pretty damn new and very robust. Ah cool. I'm dabbling in the idea of getting a Grandpa shotty. Thinking about an over under in 12 gauge. Probably 3" or 3 1/2". They make a 3 1/2" right? I thought I heard they did. I've been doing some looking and all I'm finding is some fancy pants etched custom s**t that costs many thousands of dollars. Ah here we go... http://www.gunmuse.com/Catalog/Baikal/GM_741566106958Perfect. A lot of companies make trap and skeet guns, though I think those are more often side-by-side. I always thought that most trap/skeet shotguns were O/U, and that CHEAPER companies use SxS. The rational might be the slightly different points of aim for each barrel if they were not in nearly a straight line, making it harder to consistently hit. While it is possible, I'd think that an over-under and a side-by-side would be off almost the same amount, just in different directions.
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:20 am
Fresnel uryu ishida Fresnel Barru uryu ishida Barru My understanding is that lead shot was banned. Or it is banned from being used on game. Studies that weren't sided towards anti-gun have shown that lead shot doesn't do what the anti-gun leaners say. I was talking about your grandpa's old break action. He has two single-shot break actions, and then the double-barrel that I use. All in 20 gauge. The SxS, while no longer made, is still pretty damn new and very robust. Ah cool. I'm dabbling in the idea of getting a Grandpa shotty. Thinking about an over under in 12 gauge. Probably 3" or 3 1/2". They make a 3 1/2" right? I thought I heard they did. I've been doing some looking and all I'm finding is some fancy pants etched custom s**t that costs many thousands of dollars. Ah here we go... http://www.gunmuse.com/Catalog/Baikal/GM_741566106958Perfect. A lot of companies make trap and skeet guns, though I think those are more often side-by-side. I always thought that most trap/skeet shotguns were O/U, and that CHEAPER companies use SxS. The rational might be the slightly different points of aim for each barrel if they were not in nearly a straight line, making it harder to consistently hit. While it is possible, I'd think that an over-under and a side-by-side would be off almost the same amount, just in different directions. Both barrels on the SxS would be off unless they angled the barrels to create one group at a given distance. The O/U would only have one barrel off unless of course, the second was angled. 'know what I mean?
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:29 pm
OberFeldwebel Fresnel uryu ishida Fresnel Barru Ah cool. I'm dabbling in the idea of getting a Grandpa shotty. Thinking about an over under in 12 gauge. Probably 3" or 3 1/2". They make a 3 1/2" right? I thought I heard they did. I've been doing some looking and all I'm finding is some fancy pants etched custom s**t that costs many thousands of dollars. Ah here we go... http://www.gunmuse.com/Catalog/Baikal/GM_741566106958Perfect. A lot of companies make trap and skeet guns, though I think those are more often side-by-side. I always thought that most trap/skeet shotguns were O/U, and that CHEAPER companies use SxS. The rational might be the slightly different points of aim for each barrel if they were not in nearly a straight line, making it harder to consistently hit. While it is possible, I'd think that an over-under and a side-by-side would be off almost the same amount, just in different directions. Both barrels on the SxS would be off unless they angled the barrels to create one group at a given distance. The O/U would only have one barrel off unless of course, the second was angled. 'know what I mean? That, and it's easier to compensate height even at speed than it is to compensate for offset aim. Then again, there is a reason a lot of the major players use pump or semi shotguns.
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:55 pm
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:33 pm
I guess you're not supposed to use old shotguns then.
:/
It's bullshit anyways.
Not even sure if you can buy lead shot anywhere.
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:05 pm
Barru I guess you're not supposed to use old shotguns then. :/ It's bullshit anyways. Not even sure if you can buy lead shot anywhere. I've only heard of problems with REALLY old shotguns nad shotguns with Damascus barrels. Research what shotguns you have to see if they were made with damascus barrels and approximately how old they are. Plenty of older shotguns were made with Damascus barrels, which was the major problem with the older barrels (since Damascus barrels can be damaged with the pressures of newer rounds). Though, it's ENTIRELY subjective as to the actual performance. There are people who had used even 3" Magnum slugs and other assorted 3" shells in Damascus barrels for YEARS before they found out they were Damascus and didn't have a single issue. As well, most major online retailers of ammunition sell plenty of non-plated lead shells. If anything, you can also roll your own. I just bought 10 rounds of #3 buckshot from www.ammunitiontogo.com, completely lead.
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