"Muslim" countries?

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Haydar the Truthful

I don't believe you "Need" A Hijab to be a good woman, Because there are girls/woman who still act as most Christian/Jewish or any kind of female around the world which in turn proves that it relies on major figures that influence these people, And banning them from it doesn't help anyone because then Law looks as if it is oppressive towards women or something as such, Sorry if I'm not making much sense but I believe the best way to resolve the issue is just to have the Hijab not as a law, NOR as not a law, Just something someone can wear if they want, As the U.S does.

Exactly.. neutral  

[The Dead Terrorist Achmed]

Zaaki

I would kill myself right now, if it was not haram!

And in a real muslim country all womens should wear hijab! Their face don't mind, but they should wear hijab! Hijab is IMPORTANT! Thee taliban are doing the right thing! Womens aren't like mens! If the womens get too free, the become like my sister! And i think that when they wear hijab, they are more sweet. And after my "reserch" They are better muslims, and much nicer to talk with, and they are much more respectful!

That kind of talk is utter bullshit. A hijab does not make a woman. I agree with Haydar...there should be an option of wearing one or not.

And seriously, with that kind of talk, i'm not surprised that you're sister is rebelling. Research? show me proof. I demand to see it. because what you're saying sounds absolutely stupid and demeaning. Your talk sounds like any woman who doesn't wear a hijab is going to be wild and terrible. You're insulting a huge population here.

Zaaki

I love Türkey! But the goverment is stupid! mad If you honor Allah, you honor hijab!

You are idolizing a piece of cloth. Allah is more important than any piece of cloth.

Zaaki

And Taliban is nice! They are just protecting themself from evil atackers! Rusians ben atacking them, amaricans, ben atacking them... Now the whole world are trying to beat them! But TALIBAN IS STRONG!!!!!!!!! And they are still protecting their country, and their womens from the evil atackers!

Really? where's you're proof here?

USA assists the mujahadeen to kick out Russia out of Afghanistan Seriously, if the USA hadn't intervened, the Russians would have totally owned Afghanistan by now. I think communism is far worse evil than democracy is.

And on the Taliban....
Taliban revoke women's rights
The post-Taliban men do not approve of women getting an...EDUCATION?!!!!
Taliban threatens women's rights
Taliban destroy women's rights
Seriously, I'm glad the USA went into Afghanistan. The Taliban is a prime example why Islam is barely tolerated in some places.

I could go on and on..and you know what, none of this information is from popular USA media. It's from public broadcasting, human rights organizations, which are not religiously affiliated in any way, shape or form.

Zaaki

If the Taliban was not there, belive me! Afghanistan would be the slave country! They would all be serving christians! But Afghanistan is strong! They beat the whole EVIL world!

Quit it with your propaganda bullshit and get some real facts, Zaaki.  

[BubbleBerry Tea]

I'm sorry if I offend you, Zaaki, but I have to agree with the others.

In the U.S., we have the option of wearing whatever we want, as long as we keep specific things covered. If we wanted, we could walk around in swimsuits all day. So, of course, we have the option of wearing religious clothing/jewelry if we want.

The idea in the U.S. is that church and state should be seperate, but that seperation shouldn't spread to the individuals. I've worn crosses and rosaries to my (public) school, and it was perfectly fine. If the women want to wear the Hijab, they should be allowed, but not forced. Forcing someone to wear specific things is infringing on their rights and freedom of expression.

And I really do resent that you think women are different from men. We can do anything men can do, and we do it every single day. We can work to support ourselves, we can protect ourselves from intruders... We don't need men, and men don't need us. (Okay, we need each other to reproduce... but aside from that.)

Women are just as capable as men, and I dare you to show me any proof that we aren't.  

[Zaakii]

The Dead Terrorist Achmed

Zaaki

I would kill myself right now, if it was not haram!

And in a real muslim country all womens should wear hijab! Their face don't mind, but they should wear hijab! Hijab is IMPORTANT! Thee taliban are doing the right thing! Womens aren't like mens! If the womens get too free, the become like my sister! And i think that when they wear hijab, they are more sweet. And after my "reserch" They are better muslims, and much nicer to talk with, and they are much more respectful!

That kind of talk is utter bullshit. A hijab does not make a woman. I agree with Haydar...there should be an option of wearing one or not.

And seriously, with that kind of talk, i'm not surprised that you're sister is rebelling. Research? show me proof. I demand to see it. because what you're saying sounds absolutely stupid and demeaning. Your talk sounds like any woman who doesn't wear a hijab is going to be wild and terrible. You're insulting a huge population here.
I've ben talking to many females, and the females who wear hijab are wher sweet and nice, ore let's say better muslims! Hijab should be normal! Not rare!

Zaaki

I love Türkey! But the goverment is stupid! mad If you honor Allah, you honor hijab!

You are idolizing a piece of cloth. Allah is more important than any piece of cloth.
I diden't say that stare But Allah(swt) whant's all females to wear it... Soo you must honor it!

Zaaki

And Taliban is nice! They are just protecting themself from evil atackers! Rusians ben atacking them, amaricans, ben atacking them... Now the whole world are trying to beat them! But TALIBAN IS STRONG!!!!!!!!! And they are still protecting their country, and their womens from the evil atackers!

Really? where's you're proof here?

USA assists the mujahadeen to kick out Russia out of Afghanistan Seriously, if the USA hadn't intervened, the Russians would have totally owned Afghanistan by now. I think communism is far worse evil than democracy is.

And on the Taliban....
Taliban revoke women's rights
The post-Taliban men do not approve of women getting an...EDUCATION?!!!!
Taliban threatens women's rights
Taliban destroy women's rights
Seriously, I'm glad the USA went into Afghanistan. The Taliban is a prime example why Islam is barely tolerated in some places.

I could go on and on..and you know what, none of this information is from popular USA media. It's from public broadcasting, human rights organizations, which are not religiously affiliated in any way, shape or form.
I don't have time to visit those links, but i know that the Russians(christians) were atacking! And then ofcurse the amaricans(the other christians that hate russians) diden't whant them to have Afghanistan! The amaricans whanted to conquer it themself! And the Afghans did what they had to do!!!!! But they shoulden't atack Afghanistan! It's their own fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zaaki

If the Taliban was not there, belive me! Afghanistan would be the slave country! They would all be serving christians! But Afghanistan is strong! They beat the whole EVIL world!

Quit it with your propaganda bullshit and get some real facts, Zaaki.

Well... I have some facts!

I am not sure how many, but i know that the amaricans killed about 160 english troops in friendly fire... Soo i am pretty sure more than 30.000 innercant Afghans got viollentely killed! And if you see some soldier kill your parrents, what would you do? Join the Taliban? Right?  

[BubbleBerry Tea]

Give some references.  

[Geek Zombie]

Zaaki

And if you see some soldier kill your parrents, what would you do? Join the Taliban? Right?

huh!!

i would peace out!! and cry in my heart


And joining them so that i could kill others' parents!!??

NO WAY!! scream  

[Geek Zombie]

BeXlieXve

I'm sorry if I offend you, Zaaki, but I have to agree with the others.

In the U.S., we have the option of wearing whatever we want, as long as we keep specific things covered. If we wanted, we could walk around in swimsuits all day. So, of course, we have the option of wearing religious clothing/jewelry if we want.

The idea in the U.S. is that church and state should be seperate, but that seperation shouldn't spread to the individuals. I've worn crosses and rosaries to my (public) school, and it was perfectly fine. If the women want to wear the Hijab, they should be allowed, but not forced. Forcing someone to wear specific things is infringing on their rights and freedom of expression.

And I really do resent that you think women are different from men. We can do anything men can do, and we do it every single day. We can work to support ourselves, we can protect ourselves from intruders... We don't need men, and men don't need us. (Okay, we need each other to reproduce... but aside from that.)

Women are just as capable as men, and I dare you to show me any proof that we aren't.

Woman are more powerful then man!!

leme see if i can get some references!!  

[Geek Zombie]

tassan

BeXlieXve

I'm sorry if I offend you, Zaaki, but I have to agree with the others.

In the U.S., we have the option of wearing whatever we want, as long as we keep specific things covered. If we wanted, we could walk around in swimsuits all day. So, of course, we have the option of wearing religious clothing/jewelry if we want.

The idea in the U.S. is that church and state should be seperate, but that seperation shouldn't spread to the individuals. I've worn crosses and rosaries to my (public) school, and it was perfectly fine. If the women want to wear the Hijab, they should be allowed, but not forced. Forcing someone to wear specific things is infringing on their rights and freedom of expression.

And I really do resent that you think women are different from men. We can do anything men can do, and we do it every single day. We can work to support ourselves, we can protect ourselves from intruders... We don't need men, and men don't need us. (Okay, we need each other to reproduce... but aside from that.)

Women are just as capable as men, and I dare you to show me any proof that we aren't.

Woman are more powerful then man!!

leme see if i can get some references!!

i take my words back...

women and men are equal  

[The Dead Terrorist Achmed]

Zaaki

Well... I have some facts!

I am not sure how many, but i know that the amaricans killed about 160 english troops in friendly fire... Soo i am pretty sure more than 30.000 innercant Afghans got viollentely killed! And if you see some soldier kill your parrents, what would you do? Join the Taliban? Right?

If it wasn't for American soldiers, there wouldn't even be Islam in Afghanistan. They'd all be licking commie boots.


War is no game. There are always innocents killed in warfare.

The Taliban is a despicable group that mars the name of Islam. Did you not read my sources from HUMANITARIAN ORGANIZATIONS?!

They have violated women's rights and continue to try and do so, even while the USA seeks to build a democracy for the Afghan people...so the people can rule themselves.

The taliban was not a legit government. It was a dictatorship, it was a group that never should have existed and should be wiped off the face of the earth.

Tassan, you shouldn't have to try and speak for Zaaki. He has spoken and he needs to face the criticism himself and see the real information, not bullshit propaganda.  

[BubbleBerry Tea]

tassan

tassan

BeXlieXve

I'm sorry if I offend you, Zaaki, but I have to agree with the others.

In the U.S., we have the option of wearing whatever we want, as long as we keep specific things covered. If we wanted, we could walk around in swimsuits all day. So, of course, we have the option of wearing religious clothing/jewelry if we want.

The idea in the U.S. is that church and state should be seperate, but that seperation shouldn't spread to the individuals. I've worn crosses and rosaries to my (public) school, and it was perfectly fine. If the women want to wear the Hijab, they should be allowed, but not forced. Forcing someone to wear specific things is infringing on their rights and freedom of expression.

And I really do resent that you think women are different from men. We can do anything men can do, and we do it every single day. We can work to support ourselves, we can protect ourselves from intruders... We don't need men, and men don't need us. (Okay, we need each other to reproduce... but aside from that.)

Women are just as capable as men, and I dare you to show me any proof that we aren't.

Woman are more powerful then man!!

leme see if i can get some references!!

i take my words back...

women and men are equal

Thank you.

But if the Qu'ran says that men and women are equal, why are there so many problems involving women's rights in Islamic countries?  

[Thou Exalted]

BeXlieXve

tassan

tassan

BeXlieXve

I'm sorry if I offend you, Zaaki, but I have to agree with the others.

In the U.S., we have the option of wearing whatever we want, as long as we keep specific things covered. If we wanted, we could walk around in swimsuits all day. So, of course, we have the option of wearing religious clothing/jewelry if we want.

The idea in the U.S. is that church and state should be seperate, but that seperation shouldn't spread to the individuals. I've worn crosses and rosaries to my (public) school, and it was perfectly fine. If the women want to wear the Hijab, they should be allowed, but not forced. Forcing someone to wear specific things is infringing on their rights and freedom of expression.

And I really do resent that you think women are different from men. We can do anything men can do, and we do it every single day. We can work to support ourselves, we can protect ourselves from intruders... We don't need men, and men don't need us. (Okay, we need each other to reproduce... but aside from that.)

Women are just as capable as men, and I dare you to show me any proof that we aren't.

Woman are more powerful then man!!

leme see if i can get some references!!

i take my words back...

women and men are equal

Thank you.

But if the Qu'ran says that men and women are equal, why are there so many problems involving women's rights in Islamic countries?

Cultural ways of the past sway rulers and whoever has power to stray from Islamic law and instead adopt the custom of "Women are slaves" or below men, Which isn't the Islamic way.  

[BubbleBerry Tea]

Haydar the Truthful

BeXlieXve

tassan

tassan

BeXlieXve

I'm sorry if I offend you, Zaaki, but I have to agree with the others.

In the U.S., we have the option of wearing whatever we want, as long as we keep specific things covered. If we wanted, we could walk around in swimsuits all day. So, of course, we have the option of wearing religious clothing/jewelry if we want.

The idea in the U.S. is that church and state should be seperate, but that seperation shouldn't spread to the individuals. I've worn crosses and rosaries to my (public) school, and it was perfectly fine. If the women want to wear the Hijab, they should be allowed, but not forced. Forcing someone to wear specific things is infringing on their rights and freedom of expression.

And I really do resent that you think women are different from men. We can do anything men can do, and we do it every single day. We can work to support ourselves, we can protect ourselves from intruders... We don't need men, and men don't need us. (Okay, we need each other to reproduce... but aside from that.)

Women are just as capable as men, and I dare you to show me any proof that we aren't.

Woman are more powerful then man!!

leme see if i can get some references!!

i take my words back...

women and men are equal

Thank you.

But if the Qu'ran says that men and women are equal, why are there so many problems involving women's rights in Islamic countries?

Cultural ways of the past sway rulers and whoever has power to stray from Islamic law and instead adopt the custom of "Women are slaves" or below men, Which isn't the Islamic way.

Yes, I suppose that would make sense...
I hope it changes soon.