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Arisu-Rin

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:08 pm


confusion
I found these answers to my question online. I hope they will help others.

Cards are not haraam by them selfs, I've heard some people say that gambling is haraam, but I'm not sure about that

Ask your mom why exactly she thinks cards are haraam. As far as I know no pigs or pig by products are used in the creation of playing cards. So the only reasons I can see (besides gambling which I'm sure you aren't going to do) is that the pictures on the queen cards aren't veiled and that slapping the cards could be considered violent. For the latter, learn some new games that don't involve slapping. To fix the former, buy a deck that doesn't have pictures of humans on the face cards, they cost a bit more than just a normal pack of bicycles but if you really want a haraam free card deck, its worth it.

here is another explanation-
The rule that is distinguishes permissible playing (from the impermissible) is: that which is based on and begun on conjecture and guessing is haram, however if after it is begun, the game depends on thought and reflection such as backgammon and all that is a part of it like the dice used in it (backgammon), all of it is haram.

As for that which is not based on conjecture and guessing, it is not haram such as chess.

So the questioner should look at the basis and starting point of playing cards.

If it is based on conjecture and guessing, it is haram, if not, then it isn�t. Some of the most venerable scholars such as the authors of the book, �al-Fiqh al Minhaji `ala madhhab al-imam al-Shafi�I�, have stated the unlawfulness of playing cards, because its basis is what I just mentioned, conjecture and guessing, and Allah knows best.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:40 am


There is the cards haram and there is not ^^

I love you allah,i love u muhammed
احبك يا الله احبك يا محمد
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reda-sama


The_Pathan
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:18 am


Whats haram, and what isen't? wink
PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:35 am


i can give u the proof but i can't speak english good
playing cards haram for this but in arabic:
- ضياع الوقت فيما لا يفيد لا في الدنيا ولا في الآخرة .

2- اشتمال اللعبة على فكرة المقامرة وهي مشابهة لفكرة النّرد الذي حرّمته الشريعة قطعا كما جاء في الحديث الصحيح عن النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللَّه
عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالَ : ( مَنْ لَعِبَ بِالنَّرْدَشِيرِ ف*أَنَّمَا صَبَغَ يَدَهُ فِي لَحْمِ خِنْزِيرٍ وَدَمِهِ ) رواه مسلم 2260، ومن أكثر من لعب ما يشابه المقامرة جرّّه ذلك إلى التساهل في لعب القمار المحرم.

3- اشتمال اللعبة على صور ذوات الأرواح ( الصبي والبنت .. )

4- ما يقع من الشحناء والبغضاء بين اللاعبين وهذا مجرّب ومعروف

5- ما يقع من الغشّ والتحايل

6- أنها تُلهي عن ذكر الله وعن الصلاة ولو فرض أنهم يؤدّون الصلاة في وقتها والرجال مع الجماعة في المسجد
فكيف يخرجون من حديث النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم " كل شيء ليس من ذكر الله لهو ولعب إلا أن يكون أربعة : ملاعبة الرجل امرأته وتأديب الرجل فرسه ومشي الرجل بين الغرضين ( أي التدريب على الرماية ) وتعليم الرجل السباحة " . رواه الطبراني وصححه الألباني في صحيح الجامع رقم 4534 .
وكيف لا يدخلون في حديث النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم : "مَا مِنْ قَوْمٍ يَقُومُونَ مِنْ مَجْلِسٍ لا يَذْكُرُونَ اللَّهَ فِيهِ إِلاَّ قَامُوا عَنْ مِثْلِ جِيفَةِ حِمَارٍ وَكَانَ لَهُمْ حَسْرَةً " وفي رواية الإمام أحمد : " و*انَ ذَلِكَ الْمَجْلِسُ حَسْرَةً عَلَيْهِمْ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ " . صحيح الجامع 5508

وقد أفتى عدد من العلماء المعاصرين بحرمة لعب الورق كسماحة الشيخ عبد العزيز بن باز والشيخ محمد بن صالح عثيمين والشيخ عبد الله بن جبرين وغيرهم من أهل العلم

This is the proof (arabic) i will translate t to english incha allah

reda-sama


reda-sama

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:06 am


it mean pplaying cards is haram coz its waste of time and also it can't help you in life and judgment day
and playing cards make fights and lot of problems coz the cheitan (satan) whisper in the hearts of men<---- i understand it myself
and the cards content images of soul or spirit or life (boy,girl.....)
The incidence of fraud
the game includes the idea of gambling which is similar to the idea of dice
PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:08 am


There is a lot but i find this,i m sorry



I love you allah, i love you muhammed
احبك يا الله احبك يا محمد
cry heart

reda-sama


Arisu-Rin

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:23 am


Still major confusion
confused
But i still appreciate the help
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:25 am


divineseraph
Namine952
I'm serious stare
Someone told me about it and I wanna know if it is okay to play if you aren't gambling?


No, you will burn forever. Also, if you eat pork or shrimp. Also if you look a man in the eye. Also if you whistle.


Salam, brother, as eating shrimp is not haram because it is from the sea or water,

Dhul-Noon


Dhul-Noon

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:29 am


Salam Sister, well as for playing cards, the main reason is that it disracts you from the rememberence from ALLAH and Salat, but below is a fatwa and an answer by the great sheikh Muhammad AL Munajjid

Why is playing cards – I mean only playing, without gambling – counted as haraam? We are not playing for money

Praise be to Allaah.

The Standing Committee was asked about playing cards if that does not distract people from prayer and there is no money involved. They answered:

Playing cards is not permitted, even if there is no money involved, because the problem with that is that it distracts people from remembering Allaah (dhikr) and from prayer. Even if they claim that this is not the case, then it is still a means that may lead to gambling which is expressly forbidden in the Qur’aan. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), and gambling, and Al-Ansaab (stone altars for sacrifices to false gods) and Al-Azlaam (arrows for seeking luck or decision) are an abomination of Shaytaan’s (Satan’s) handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful”

[al-Maa’idah 5:90]

These cards have an effect on society, for the bonds of a strong society are achieved by means of two things: following the commands of Allaah and heeding His prohibitions. A society disintegrates when it neglects any of those duties or does any of those things that are forbidden. These cards form one of the factors which have an effect on society. They cause people to neglect prayer in congregation, and they generate alienation, breaking of ties, hatred and negligence through the committing of haraam actions, and they make people too lazy to earn a living.

Fataawa Islamiyyah, 4/436

With regard to the history of these playing cards: No one really knows who invented playing cards or when or where they were invented. It has been said that they are of Chinese or Indian origin, or otherwise. But historians are agreed that they came to Europe from the Middle East in the latter part of the Middle Ages. Experts also say that there is agreement that playing cards have clearly evolved from that time until now.

Playing cards made their first appearance in Europe in Andalusia, and were brought to northern Spain in the eleventh century CE.

The traditional deck of cards in Spain consisted of 40 cards, including the numbers 1 to 7, plus three characters, the highest of which was the “ruler”, followed by the “deputy”, then the “scribe” or “knight.”

In the sixteenth century, the French changed the cards, replacing the “ruler” with the king, the “deputy” with the queen, and the “knight” with the jack. They also added three new numbers, so that the deck now consisted of 52 cards. In the seventeenth century, the Germans added a fourth character, the joker.

We have quoted above the fatwa on playing with these cards. It may also be added that playing cards is devoid of any of the goals of recreational activities as required in Islam; it does not teach any skill that is needed for jihad or any useful knowledge or bring any social benefit or relaxation that will calm the nerves. Rather it is a game that has nothing good in it; it causes arguments and simply kills time. It is based on speculation and chance, and it is like playing with dice, in that it leads to disputes and fighting, and it is like alcohol and gambling.

Based on the above, it would not be farfetched to suggest that it is haraam rather than makrooh, by analogy with dice, because both are based on chance and both lead to arguments.

The same view was favoured by Shaykh Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, and it is the view of our contemporary scholars, and of Shaykh Muhammad ibn Saalih al-‘Uthaymeen among the fuqaha’ of al-Najd, who transmitted it from his shaykhs. This is based on the fact that it leads to enmity and hatred, and because it is a great waste of time and it distracts people from remembering Allaah (dhikr) and keeps them from worshipping and obeying Him.

This view is further supported by the fact that one of the French kings issued orders banning people from playing cards during the day, and stating that everyone who went against this order was to be arrested and punished. That was because the French people loved playing cards too much, to such an extent that they were neglecting their work in order to play cards. The punishment dictated by this French king was not just a brief imprisonment, he also added a severe beating as a deterrent to others.

Yet despite these decrees and others, he did not succeed in uprooting the habit of playing cards; the only result was that the people started to play in secret rather than openly.

From Qadaaya al-Lahw wa’l-Tarfeeh by Maadoon Rasheed, p. 185-187.


Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid

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islam qa
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:33 am


And the scholars are more of a right opinion than a non-scholar, salam

Dhul-Noon


Arisu-Rin

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:39 pm


So it is haram?
Why can't you all just state that fact....
Thanks though,
PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:29 am


salam you welcome sis, and ALLAH knows best

Dhul-Noon

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