I need a small-intermediate caliber rifle.

[Ms Truffle]

Stoic Socialist

Shrantics Pretentious Ego

I was hoping to get 12"-18" groups at 300 yards, 3" groups at 100 yards. (With my aim. If I put it in a vice, I'd hope to get more.)

But I guess that's not much of a reality. gonk

So, do you think an AR-15 could get groups like that at those ranges? (I'd hope for better out of an AR-15, though.)

Oh, of course. Some people can get under an inch at 100 yards, so 12-18" at 300 yards can definitely be done. Heck, this reviewer got a .31" group!

Gunblast even did a review with a Bushmaster that did a 1/4" ground at 100 yards, not too shabby... The author claims the worst group was 3/4"...

With a rifle that accurate, I think I should be able to make 2" groups at 100 yards. So far, I've been using nothing but budget hunting rifles- one of which has extremely significant bullet drop at only 50 yards. (One foot) gonk (None of which are very accurate.)  

[Stoic Socialist]

Requiem in Mortis

For the Mosin-Nagant, it's an M38. Damn, I didn't realize a WWII-era rifle could be that cheap.

They only made, roughly, 37,000,000. Give or take some... surprised

Personally, I'm partial to our K-31. It's pretty cool, mil-surp ammo was held to an extremely high standard and is non corrosive. Besides, what's not to love about a straight pull rifle with a match grade two-stage-trigger for only $250?  

[Stoic Socialist]

Shrantics Pretentious Ego

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With a rifle that accurate, I think I should be able to make 2" groups at 100 yards. So far, I've been using nothing but budget hunting rifles- one of which has extremely significant bullet drop at only 50 yards. (One foot) gonk (None of which are very accurate.)

Yeah, probably. That's with scopes and people with decades of shooting experience, though. 2" groups should def. be achievable, though.

What the heck're you shooting that has a foot of drop at 50 yards? I've run some numbers into a calculator, and it shouldn't be that low until 250 yards or so... Any chance it's not zeroed or the front sight's too high?


 

[Requiem ex Inferni]

Stoic Socialist

Requiem in Mortis

For the Mosin-Nagant, it's an M38. Damn, I didn't realize a WWII-era rifle could be that cheap.

They only made, roughly, 37,000,000. Give or take some... surprised

Personally, I'm partial to our K-31. It's pretty cool, mil-surp ammo was held to an extremely high standard and is non corrosive. Besides, what's not to love about a straight pull rifle with a match grade two-stage-trigger for only $250?

Oh, those Russkies with their cheap but well-built s**t.  

[Ms Truffle]

Stoic Socialist

Shrantics Pretentious Ego

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With a rifle that accurate, I think I should be able to make 2" groups at 100 yards. So far, I've been using nothing but budget hunting rifles- one of which has extremely significant bullet drop at only 50 yards. (One foot) gonk (None of which are very accurate.)

Yeah, probably. That's with scopes and people with decades of shooting experience, though. 2" groups should def. be achievable, though.

What the heck're you shooting that has a foot of drop at 50 yards? I've run some numbers into a calculator, and it shouldn't be that low until 250 yards or so... Any chance it's not zeroed or the front sight's too high?

A marlin 989 m2 .22 rifle. Yeah, it's screwed. The scope's pretty much on target- it's not exactly on center, but it should NOT be causing that kind of drop at 50 yards. Here's a picture of a target I shot at 25 yards-
(Keep in mind that one group was shot before we zeroed the scope.)

I just think it's a horribly inaccurate rifle.  

[Fresnel]

I was going to suggest the Remington 7615, a pump-action rifle that takes .223 STANAG magazines, but it seems they're upwards of $600... except this one for some reason.

Have you considered .22WMR? It's like a .22, but manlier. Not so good for long ranges, but it's got more punch up close.

'Course if you want to see what a $1k AR can do at 100 yards unsupported, with iron sights...



...I can do that too. That's 10 shots, BTW. The 8 out the right was my own fault.  

[Buki_Actual]

Fresnel

I was going to suggest the Remington 7615, a pump-action rifle that takes .223 STANAG magazines, but it seems they're upwards of $600... except this one for some reason.

THE PUMP-ACTION ASSAULT RIFLE RETURNS!!!  

[Fresnel]

Sgt Buckner

Fresnel

I was going to suggest the Remington 7615, a pump-action rifle that takes .223 STANAG magazines, but it seems they're upwards of $600... except this one for some reason.

THE PUMP-ACTION ASSAULT RIFLE RETURNS!!!

Bane of the Beta C-mag.