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xrahazmi

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:04 pm


owh i hate kiss.. xp xp
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:14 pm


u hate to kiss... weird.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:04 pm


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Its called Hajr-e-aswad, it lies in one side of the kabba, you have to kiss it before you start your tawaaf (walking round the kabba 7 times) you have to put both the hands on the frame/wall and kiss it. The reason we do it is because prophet Muhammad SAW did it, so its a sunna, It was white before, but now its black because it has sucked-in sins of all the people who have kissed it so far.


NOT TRUE.
u dont need to kiss it before tawaaf , DO HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HARD IT IS TO GET ANYWHERE NEER IT TO BEGIN WITH eek
and u can do it anytime it does not have to be before or after blaugh


I read a guide on doing Hajj, and they said that its good if we kiss first and then do the tawaaf
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:39 pm


tassan
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tassan
Its called Hajr-e-aswad, it lies in one side of the kabba, you have to kiss it before you start your tawaaf (walking round the kabba 7 times) you have to put both the hands on the frame/wall and kiss it. The reason we do it is because prophet Muhammad SAW did it, so its a sunna, It was white before, but now its black because it has sucked-in sins of all the people who have kissed it so far.


NOT TRUE.
u dont need to kiss it before tawaaf , DO HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HARD IT IS TO GET ANYWHERE NEER IT TO BEGIN WITH eek
and u can do it anytime it does not have to be before or after blaugh


I read a guide on doing Hajj, and they said that its good if we kiss first and then do the tawaaf


its sunnah U dont HAVE to do it 3nodding
u know what sunah means sweety right ? smile

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:55 pm


Fish of Steel
tassan
Fish of Steel
tassan
Its called Hajr-e-aswad, it lies in one side of the kabba, you have to kiss it before you start your tawaaf (walking round the kabba 7 times) you have to put both the hands on the frame/wall and kiss it. The reason we do it is because prophet Muhammad SAW did it, so its a sunna, It was white before, but now its black because it has sucked-in sins of all the people who have kissed it so far.


NOT TRUE.
u dont need to kiss it before tawaaf , DO HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HARD IT IS TO GET ANYWHERE NEER IT TO BEGIN WITH eek
and u can do it anytime it does not have to be before or after blaugh


I read a guide on doing Hajj, and they said that its good if we kiss first and then do the tawaaf


its sunnah U dont HAVE to do it 3nodding
u know what sunah means sweety right ? smile


lol who would not know that XD
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:51 am


tassan
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tassan
Fish of Steel
tassan
Its called Hajr-e-aswad, it lies in one side of the kabba, you have to kiss it before you start your tawaaf (walking round the kabba 7 times) you have to put both the hands on the frame/wall and kiss it. The reason we do it is because prophet Muhammad SAW did it, so its a sunna, It was white before, but now its black because it has sucked-in sins of all the people who have kissed it so far.


NOT TRUE.
u dont need to kiss it before tawaaf , DO HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HARD IT IS TO GET ANYWHERE NEER IT TO BEGIN WITH eek
and u can do it anytime it does not have to be before or after blaugh


I read a guide on doing Hajj, and they said that its good if we kiss first and then do the tawaaf


its sunnah U dont HAVE to do it 3nodding
u know what sunah means sweety right ? smile


lol who would not know that XD


*raises hand* I don't

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:28 am


Somthing Rasullulah did? Like, always making wudhuu. Never being unclean.

if u copy Rasullulah too much, life will go by making wudhuu and pray all day sweatdrop seriously.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:30 am


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Fish of Steel
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Its called Hajr-e-aswad, it lies in one side of the kabba, you have to kiss it before you start your tawaaf (walking round the kabba 7 times) you have to put both the hands on the frame/wall and kiss it. The reason we do it is because prophet Muhammad SAW did it, so its a sunna, It was white before, but now its black because it has sucked-in sins of all the people who have kissed it so far.


NOT TRUE.
u dont need to kiss it before tawaaf , DO HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HARD IT IS TO GET ANYWHERE NEER IT TO BEGIN WITH eek
and u can do it anytime it does not have to be before or after blaugh


I read a guide on doing Hajj, and they said that its good if we kiss first and then do the tawaaf


its sunnah U dont HAVE to do it 3nodding
u know what sunah means sweety right ? smile


lol who would not know that XD


*raises hand* I don't


sunah basically means the prophet Muhammad used to do
and we get credit for doing what he used to do but no punishment if we dont.
get it sweety heart blaugh

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:00 pm


The_Pathan
Somthing Rasullulah did? Like, always making wudhuu. Never being unclean.

if u copy Rasullulah too much, life will go by making wudhuu and pray all day sweatdrop seriously.


but this is good, his life must have been very pure.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:11 am


You are right 3nodding But he diden't have to do alot of things which we have to go through sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:26 am


Yeah....
PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:07 am


AlsaLam Alaykum ~ !

The black stone is just a stone. Its not an object of worship. Nothing in creation is worthy of worship. Muslims regard it very highly, just as they love the Kaaba, so even if the stone wasn't there during those years, hajj and umrah went on as usual because the stone forms no part of any ritual.and kissing it is Sunnah, and it is not an independent Sunnah either, rather it is Sunnah for the one who is doing tawaaf =]. I do not know that kissing the Black Stone is Sunnah except in tawaaf.
~ --> Based on this, since kissing the Black Stone is Sunnah and is not obligatory and is not a condition of Tawaaf, then if a person does not kiss it, we do not say that his tawaaf is invalid or that his tawaaf is lacking and he is sinning. Rather his tawaaf is valid and if there is a lot of crowding then pointing is better than touching, because this is what the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did when the place was crowded, and because by doing this a person avoids harm that he may do to others or that others may do to him.


WaSaLaMzZ ~

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:07 am


Aha smile Wuts tawaaf? ^_^
PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:19 pm


uhh, zaki, are you seriously asking, or joking? rolleyes
it's circling ka'bah 7 times, a part of hajj.


anyway, I'm agree with DS. no matter what, we must keep "it's just a stone" in mind, because someone once asked me "don't the muslim praying to ka'bah? isn't that the same as worshiping a statue and other objects?". We must keep our original intention clean, praying to Allah, while the ka'bah is the tool to unite us. The same goes with the black stone. A sunnah, but one wrong intention and you can do syirik (worshiping not only Allah)

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:14 am


Nah i was asking, how would i know what does that mean? I'm not arab, nor do i live in a muslim country.


Yup, it's just weird it summons evilness into it.
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