What the heck has Obama done so far?

[Foxifyre]

From a non biased point of view Obama has done a lot. It is still too early to tell whether any of the things are good or bad. In my (and most professionals) opinion, you need to wait 20 years after the president left office to be able to tell whether he did a good or bad job.

To give an example... Lincoln was thought to be a tyrant for many years because he suspended habeas corpus for many people. However... Lincoln is now one of the top 5 presidents for what he successfully did in office.

Presidents are generally "graded" on 3 things and how well they did them. Responding to crises, utilizing office for the good of the people, leaving nation better off. So far Obama HAS responded to a crisis... for good or bad is yet to be seen because its still too early!

I personally did not vote for Obama but as the president of the USA I support him because the majority of the nation I live in did.

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[Garek Maxwell]

Foxifyre

In my (and most professionals) opinion, you need to wait 20 years after the president left office to be able to tell whether he did a good or bad job.

But can we all at least agree that Bush was a sucky president right now? sad

Foxifyre

To give an example... Lincoln was thought to be a tyrant for many years because he suspended habeas corpus for many people. However... Lincoln is now one of the top 5 presidents for what he successfully did in office.

He also gave small pocks infected blankets to Native Americans.

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But he might have been gay, so I'm torn. sad  

[[-Erik-]]

GUYS, GUYS.

OBAMA IS A LIZARD gonk

http://www.hiddencodes.com/obama/index.htm  

[Lyro Alathan]

Omg, generic drama is generic.

When Nixon was in office, everyone hated him for being so radical,
but now that he's gone, good lord were we glad to have him when we did.

Obama is out president, deal with it. If you honestly think he's that bad, get all the other people who hate him, and go and throw him out of office.

Maybe you can run this nation, and try to please 300 million people,
5/6 of them being the generic type of American we all know will hate
anyone who got elected no matter what.  

[Jungle Boots]

Lyro Alathan

Omg, generic drama is generic.

When Nixon was in office, everyone hated him for being so radical,
but now that he's gone, good lord were we glad to have him when we did.

Obama is out president, deal with it. If you honestly think he's that bad, get all the other people who hate him, and go and throw him out of office.

Maybe you can run this nation, and try to please 300 million people,
5/6 of them being the generic type of American we all know will hate
anyone who got elected no matter what.

i really wouldnt consider this thread very dramatic at all.

not to offend your concept of a good president or anything...

but im pretty sure Nixon has gone down in american history as one of our least appreciated (possibly one of our worst) presidents. you know... the whole watergate scandal and all...

but im sure some people like him, and thats their perogative.  

[Garek Maxwell]

Lyro Alathan

Maybe you can run this nation, and try to please 300 million people,
5/6 of them being the generic type of American we all know will hate
anyone who got elected no matter what.

The key is to not be elected. Join me, and I can rule with an iron, yet benevolent, fist! I'll clutch flowers or something while pressing big red buttons and laughing maniacally.

It's okay too, you'll probably like me as El Presidente. I'll curse at politicians and tell off fundies on international television.  

[Jungle Boots]

[-Erik-]

GUYS, GUYS.

OBAMA IS A LIZARD gonk

http://www.hiddencodes.com/obama/index.htm

wait... hebrew has a word that translates to Obama?

also i find the bit about the speculum a little more concerning than obama being a reptile...  

[[-Erik-]]

We are DOOMED 8U  

[Ulric Kessler]

If you don't expect much from your leaders, you won't be so let down. I tend to view things this way. Personally I believe this country is dying, no nation lasts forever after all. As much as we'd like to believe that our country will always be here, I'd say we've probably got another 50-100 years max.

It's not entirely due in part to failed political dealings, wars, unemployment, etc. It's just another natural cycle of things.

Getting back onto point, I know it's sad to see our representitives as a people turning on each or abusing their "given" power. It's funny how alot of politicians really seem to forget that we 'gave' them their power. Honostly though, this kind of thing is nothing new, as long as any form of government has existed, there has always been the bickering and infighting, lets not forget the corruption.  

[sailor hamster]

guitargod4900

diddnt even click the link. obama's done great. it's a horrable travesty that the republicans won the mid-terms.

I agree. 3nodding  

[Deaths kitsune]

cut our hours is what hes done  

[Garek Maxwell]

Deaths kitsune

cut our hours is what hes done

Obama can hardly be blamed for business and government cuts in working hours. You have congress to blame for the most part, since congress holds the purse strings and if a local government can't afford to pay it's workers then it has to cut jobs or hours.

Companies are similar, except you have share holders to blame the most. Share holders want profits at all costs, with no concern to consequences or the impact of their demands. They're not invisible puppet masters, but they're part of a cycle that makes things worse. CEO's are kinda at their mercy, if such a thing could be said. They're a part of the problem for sure, but all the focus on executives with high pay cutting jobs is nothing compared to the share holders.

Not surprisingly, you have share holders to blame for most poor products as well. It's not that the company always wants to produce crappy goods, but when you got people looking to squeeze out every dime from something, you end up with situations like in the gaming industry with EA messing with franchises.

I could go on further, but that's the jist. There's many people to blame really. The president hardly did much of anything to cause that. Probably at most his charisma influenced people...probably.  

[Insanely Insane-x]

He has stopped using cigars for almost a year.