Redem...why do you even try?

[Recon_Ninja_985]

http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/extended-discussion/gun-control-yes-or-no-talk-to-me-people/t.69878461_181/

redem strikes again  

[Buki_Actual]

I gave up arguing with him a few months ago.  

[Das Rabble Rouser]

An even better question is why you keep trying to reason with him.  

[Fresnel]

Das Rabble Rouser

An even better question is why you keep trying to reason with him.

Ha-HA! Zing.  

[Requiem ex Inferni]

Should I even bother unblocking him to see his responses, or is it the same circle-jerking bullshit?  

[Recon_Ninja_985]

Das Rabble Rouser

An even better question is why you keep trying to reason with him.

I wouldnt say it's necessarily trying to reason with him.

it's more about protecting gullible individuals who might think what he has to say is a good idea if his statements go uncontested.

someone has to be there to disprove what he says.

consider it a method of containment. check and balance, whatever you wanna call it.

guerrilla warfare? maybe. my avi does appear to be a viet cong after all.  

[Private Sanders]

A British guy just made a point I doubt he can get around: that, despite the gun laws, people are still getting shot all the time in his hometown (Nottingham, also referred to as Shottingham in Britain do to all the shootings.).  

[Buki_Actual]

Requiem in Mortis

Should I even bother unblocking him to see his responses, or is it the same circle-jerking bullshit?

nope. Don't even bother  

[Fresnel]

Private Sanders

A British guy just made a point I doubt he can get around: that, despite the gun laws, people are still getting shot all the time in his hometown (Nottingham, also referred to as Shottingham in Britain do to all the shootings.).

The obvious solution is to round up all the farmers and their mums.  

[Private Sanders]

Fresnel

Private Sanders

A British guy just made a point I doubt he can get around: that, despite the gun laws, people are still getting shot all the time in his hometown (Nottingham, also referred to as Shottingham in Britain do to all the shootings.).

The obvious solution is to round up all the farmers and their mums.

Problem, officer?  

[Buki_Actual]

I just realized, this is the thread I called "inb4 Redem" on page 4 (?) two months ago.  

[Requiem ex Inferni]

I'd like to know why Gaia alerts me when Redem quotes me even though I have him blocked.

Although I have a feeling he did so because of the "******** like Redem" comment I made. Anyone care to confirm this for me?  

[Das Rabble Rouser]

Requiem in Mortis

I'd like to know why Gaia alerts me when Redem quotes me even though I have him blocked.

Although I have a feeling he did so because of the "******** like Redem" comment I made. Anyone care to confirm this for me?

tl;dr I did not read any of this

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Requiem in Mortis

Too bad it won't do jack s**t to stop the people who are ACTUALLY committing crimes with guns, and I think a lot less criminals would be willing to ******** with a guy who carries an assault rifle around town.

Possibly, but that would simply alter who they chose as a victim, it wouldn't reduce the crime rate itself. It would also mean that criminals would be armed with assault rifles as well, so, they could still commit the same crimes, they would just have to have the element of surprise. Which, given that they have the choice as to where and when they act, they will always have.
Society gains nothing, and loses as the severity of incidents increases as confrontations become more violent.

Requiem in Mortis

Besides, look at Switzerland, the country with one of the highest gun ownership rates in Europe. People are legally required to own at least one gun there. Hell, they carry them EVERYWHERE- grocery stores, shopping malls, even goddamn banks. Not even just handguns- these guys get to carry assault rifles into banks. And yet they aren't a total murderfest. The criminals KNOW everyone else is packing, so they aren't stupid enough to do s**t.

Guns are common, but they're also heavily controlled. That's the key point under discussion. Not gun bans, but gun control.
People in Switzerland do not carry guns everywhere. To carry a gun requires a special permit to be carried at the same time, which are not often given to people outside the security sector. The only people who regularly carry weapons are those actively serving in the militia at the time. There are specific and strict regulations covering how and what guns can be bought, how they are to be stored and cared for and how they are to be transported. Plus, you cannot simply carry them with you whereever you go, but must go directly to wherever you are taking them. All purchases are tracked, ammo included.
They are not in the least a nation with lax gun control laws, if anything this is an argument for stronger gun control in the US, and an example of how strong gun control laws can be passed without actually restricting the ability to maintain a militia for defence.