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Do you think that Punks, Goths, And Emo's Are TOTALLY Different
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Lella_Bean

PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:26 pm
....Peeeze Help!!!!! My friend Says that Goth, Punks and Emo's Are Completely Diffrerent......But I think that were not that Different...can Someone Please Tell me what they think.....
Ps this friend Of Mine Stareotypes like CRAZY!!!!  
PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:54 pm
To be blunt the only real differences i notice between them without stereotyping because i dont believe in it are Goth is darkest, Punk is differnent kind of dark and emo is really light music. I speak of the main genres and yes i consider Goth its own main genre despite its roots in Punk. Also the average person that listens to each is different although i wont specifically generalize people that listen to any paticular genre so look elsewhere.  

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:56 am
I think Voltaire put it well when he said "Goths are just Hippies in black".
Punk is about freedom.
Emo is a way of dressing. Somehow it turned into an insult. I think it's the music.
 
PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:23 am
Yes, these subcultures are different, both in style and in music.

We'll start off with

punk
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Oh, look, a random picture of a punk

Surfaced in the 70's, stood for anarchy, distopia, disillusionment, antidisestabishmentarinism.......ok, decide on the last for yourselves, and some didn't really actually stand for anything per se.... In short the 70's teenager's way of rebelling. Shave part of your hair off, dye it an unatural colour, make it into a mohawk, listen to some (not too well made) music, eg Sex Pistols, Ramones (both excellent examples of the 3-chord punk band by the way), wear lots of demin, chains and peircings, say ******** a lot, have a fascination with safety pins, et voila a punk you have now made

goth
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Oh, look, it's a goth with static hair. No wait, it's back combed

Punks that decided they liked black a lot. Developed a brooding, calmer, darker, less agressive form of music (not necisserily in that order, I have the slight problem of not being born before the 80's, this surfaced in the late 70's). These crazy kids backcombed their hair, dyed it black, wore mostly black, said boo alot. (ok, that's tongue in cheek). This species can usually be seen wearing velvet, silk, other high quality fabrics. Mostly in black. Has a fascination with posing...(and no, I'm not dealing with the ten thousand different breeds of goth you can find lurking around)

emo
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Oh, look, an emo boy with make-up, who'da thunk it?

Also spawned off of punk, the modern kid's way of rebelling in a dark alternative manner. Emo is short for emotive, no swearing with emotional allowed. Music characterised by whining nowadays, but emo music can be about anything, not just about how much your life sucks, you can have happy emo songs, it's just that the majority of well known emo bands wallow in self pity. The whole point of emo in it's purest form is to express feeling deeply, be it hatred, depression, love, happiness. Usual modern emo wears tight black drain pipe trousers, striped top, gallons of hair gel, dyed black hair. Has been known to pose a lot. Too.

Emo has turned into an insult because it's the most recent scene, just as numetal got a load of crap, and grunge, and just about any other new type of music when it first emerged. Give it a couple years, the backlash will move onto the next newest scene, and emo will either have died a death like so many other alternative music scenes or soldier on like so fewer music scenes.  

Isobel Bellamy


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:28 am
haha, cool  
PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:12 am
Isobel Bellamy
Yes, these subcultures are different, both in style and in music.

We'll start off with

punk
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Oh, look, a random picture of a punk

Surfaced in the 70's, stood for anarchy, distopia, disillusionment, antidisestabishmentarinism.......ok, decide on the last for yourselves, and some didn't really actually stand for anything per se.... In short the 70's teenager's way of rebelling. Shave part of your hair off, dye it an unatural colour, make it into a mohawk, listen to some (not too well made) music, eg Sex Pistols, Ramones (both excellent examples of the 3-chord punk band by the way), wear lots of demin, chains and peircings, say ******** a lot, have a fascination with safety pins, et voila a punk you have now made

goth
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Oh, look, it's a goth with static hair. No wait, it's back combed

Punks that decided they liked black a lot. Developed a brooding, calmer, darker, less agressive form of music (not necisserily in that order, I have the slight problem of not being born before the 80's, this surfaced in the late 70's). These crazy kids backcombed their hair, dyed it black, wore mostly black, said boo alot. (ok, that's tongue in cheek). This species can usually be seen wearing velvet, silk, other high quality fabrics. Mostly in black. Has a fascination with posing...(and no, I'm not dealing with the ten thousand different breeds of goth you can find lurking around)

emo
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Oh, look, an emo boy with make-up, who'da thunk it?

Also spawned off of punk, the modern kid's way of rebelling in a dark alternative manner. Emo is short for emotive, no swearing with emotional allowed. Music characterised by whining nowadays, but emo music can be about anything, not just about how much your life sucks, you can have happy emo songs, it's just that the majority of well known emo bands wallow in self pity. The whole point of emo in it's purest form is to express feeling deeply, be it hatred, depression, love, happiness. Usual modern emo wears tight black drain pipe trousers, striped top, gallons of hair gel, dyed black hair. Has been known to pose a lot. Too.

Emo has turned into an insult because it's the most recent scene, just as numetal got a load of crap, and grunge, and just about any other new type of music when it first emerged. Give it a couple years, the backlash will move onto the next newest scene, and emo will either have died a death like so many other alternative music scenes or soldier on like so fewer music scenes.


That is such a great post it deserves to be put as an article in some kind of underground newspaper thing....that should be given to every goth or punk or emo that has ever dissed another for anything about being punk, emo, or goth.  

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MortSanglant

PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:20 pm
For the most part goths are fairly peaceful people, and punks tend to be more aggressive.

And emo? We won't go there.

What I find amusing is that the word punk originally referred to a stick that would be used to light canons - think of incense sticks; they smoke and are able to light something else on fire, but they themselves don't generate flames. This term was then applied to such people. They are all smoke and no fire.
 
PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:01 pm
I've actually put this post into another thread, so if you'd like to go into an extended discussion on this issue please follow this link: http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=6657039  

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