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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:21 am
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I've been rather infatuated with the infamous Tommy Gun lately. It looks to me like a big chunk of wood, metal, and history, with a magazine that puts just about any other comparable gun to shame (100-round drum? Damn.), an integral foregrip, a large caliber (but since it's a pistol caliber, minimal recoil), and about the damn coolest aesthetics of any gun on the market. Has anybody fired one of these? I know Auto-Ordinance makes one, so they're available in semi-auto. If I get up the money, I might just buy one of these some day. I'm damn sure gonna shoot one at least once. This thing looks fun as hell to shoot.
Also, if anyone knows, I'm curious why they were cut out of the US arsenal. Was it size, or budget, or what?
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:05 am
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:55 am
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:46 pm
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:05 pm
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:56 pm
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:50 am
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Old Lord Brocktree You mean the 1928? and i like the Thompson, but it lacks the punch of a rifle cartridge. that's why I'd pack the BAR. cool I think they made, like, a new model every year from 1927 into the mid 1930's. I think in 1928 they removed the fore-grip, which in my mind is part of what makes the gun. There's nothing wrong with the BAR, I suppose, but I don't see myself having to shoot through tank armor, sooo... I'll stick with the other end of the power/volume tradeoff.
EDIT: Haha... I just found a shooter's review of the Thompson 1927. It included this:
Quote: It's easy to see why the vertical foregrip was essential equipment when firing with the 100-round drum. With a loaded drum, the Thompson weighed as much as a BAR. So even with 100 rounds, the Thompson weighs as much as a BAR with 20.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:55 am
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Fresnel Old Lord Brocktree You mean the 1928? and i like the Thompson, but it lacks the punch of a rifle cartridge. that's why I'd pack the BAR. cool I think they made, like, a new model every year from 1927 into the mid 1930's. I think in 1928 they removed the fore-grip, which in my mind is part of what makes the gun. There's nothing wrong with the BAR, I suppose, but I don't see myself having to shoot through tank armor, sooo... I'll stick with the other end of the power/volume tradeoff. EDIT: Haha... I just found a shooter's review of the Thompson 1927. It included this: Quote: It's easy to see why the vertical foregrip was essential equipment when firing with the 100-round drum. With a loaded drum, the Thompson weighed as much as a BAR. So even with 100 rounds, the Thompson weighs as much as a BAR with 20.
The BAR weighs 30, without bipod and unloaded, so no, the BAR weighs more than the Thompson.
Also, they made two models, the 1921, which was the model used in most of WWII, it didn't involve the foregrip, and the 1928, which had the vertical foregrip.
And the BAR fires the same round as the M1 Garand, so it has the same punch and power, plus the output of an automatic weapon.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:57 am
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:09 am
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Old Lord Brocktree Fresnel Old Lord Brocktree You mean the 1928? and i like the Thompson, but it lacks the punch of a rifle cartridge. that's why I'd pack the BAR. cool I think they made, like, a new model every year from 1927 into the mid 1930's. I think in 1928 they removed the fore-grip, which in my mind is part of what makes the gun. There's nothing wrong with the BAR, I suppose, but I don't see myself having to shoot through tank armor, sooo... I'll stick with the other end of the power/volume tradeoff. EDIT: Haha... I just found a shooter's review of the Thompson 1927. It included this: Quote: It's easy to see why the vertical foregrip was essential equipment when firing with the 100-round drum. With a loaded drum, the Thompson weighed as much as a BAR. So even with 100 rounds, the Thompson weighs as much as a BAR with 20. The BAR weighs 30, without bipod and unloaded, so no, the BAR weighs more than the Thompson. Also, they made two models, the 1921, which was the model used in most of WWII, it didn't involve the foregrip, and the 1928, which had the vertical foregrip. And the BAR fires the same round as the M1 Garand, so it has the same punch and power, plus the output of an automatic weapon. Well yes, but how much does 100 rounds of .45 weigh?
I was going by Wikipedia. They have, like, 15 different models listed.
Agreed. The BAR has a small amount of kickass ammo. The Thompson has a s**t-ton of pretty good ammo. It's hard to have both without having to have someone else carrying it for you.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:28 pm
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Fresnel Old Lord Brocktree Fresnel Old Lord Brocktree You mean the 1928? and i like the Thompson, but it lacks the punch of a rifle cartridge. that's why I'd pack the BAR. cool I think they made, like, a new model every year from 1927 into the mid 1930's. I think in 1928 they removed the fore-grip, which in my mind is part of what makes the gun. There's nothing wrong with the BAR, I suppose, but I don't see myself having to shoot through tank armor, sooo... I'll stick with the other end of the power/volume tradeoff. EDIT: Haha... I just found a shooter's review of the Thompson 1927. It included this: Quote: It's easy to see why the vertical foregrip was essential equipment when firing with the 100-round drum. With a loaded drum, the Thompson weighed as much as a BAR. So even with 100 rounds, the Thompson weighs as much as a BAR with 20. The BAR weighs 30, without bipod and unloaded, so no, the BAR weighs more than the Thompson. Also, they made two models, the 1921, which was the model used in most of WWII, it didn't involve the foregrip, and the 1928, which had the vertical foregrip. And the BAR fires the same round as the M1 Garand, so it has the same punch and power, plus the output of an automatic weapon. Well yes, but how much does 100 rounds of .45 weigh? I was going by Wikipedia. They have, like, 15 different models listed. Agreed. The BAR has a small amount of kickass ammo. The Thompson has a s**t-ton of pretty good ammo. It's hard to have both without having to have someone else carrying it for you.
There's your problem. Try this site. http://world.guns.ru/main-e.htm
One hundred rounds of .45 would weigh a bit, but still heftable by one hand, otherwise it would be impractical.
And I always though a drummag for the BAR would be a lovely addition..
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:30 pm
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:11 pm
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:14 pm
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:43 pm
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